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Re: [disklavier] Re: Problem conveting .wav to .mid files

2010-11-09 by Carol Beigel

There may be some hope for you.  A new product out of Germany is Melodyne 
Editor from celemony. 
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=products_editor  It has been years 
in the making and keeps morphing as to its packaging.  It is an polyphonic 
audio editor that works like MIDI using its new Direct Note Access 
technology.  It is used in recording studios to change an audio tone.  For 
example, if you have a trio of people singing and someone is off slightly on 
a note, you can go in and isolate that voice and move it to the proper pitch 
just like you edit a midi file.  There is a free 30 day trial and the cost 
is about $349.

Also in today's world there is software available to slow down the audio and 
still retain the pitch.  One program I have used is Slo Gold (?) from 
www.pgmusic.com in Canada.  For all I know, the Melodyne Editor will also do 
this.

Most of the products out there that convert audio to midi work on monophonic 
sounds - voice, flute, guitar, etc.  Piano music however is polyphonic 
because of the harmonics generaterated, i.e. a note played generates not 
only the fundamental, but the octave, 12th partial, etc.

The technology is slowing getting there.  Just 10 years ago, this was 
thought to be an impossible task.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joegugs2" <gugs2001@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:06 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Problem conveting .wav to .mid files


> Have you worked with Intelliscore? I tried both the Polyphonic and 
> Ensemble version without much success. I may need to understand the 
> details of using some of the settings on these programs to get a better 
> rendering of the notes as what I have so far doesn't sound anything like 
> the original piano part. Not sure what I'm doing wrong if anything.
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Peter Giles <pgiles@...> wrote:
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> I'm not totally sure about this, but wouldn't IntelliScore serve your
>> purpose here? It does convert audio files into MIDI files. It also
>> eliminates vocal performances from instrumental tracks.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 11/8/10 2:43 PM, "joegugs2" <gugs2001@...> wrote:
>>
>> >I was afraid this might be the case. Sure, I could play along with the
>> >audio myself and record my performance then add the singing audio to it,
>> >but it wouldn't be the same. It seems like it shouldn't be that
>> >difficult, if only I could get a good transcribing of the audio where I
>> >could differentiate the two parts, piano and singing. I am considering
>> >slowing the tempo down so there would be better separation of the notes
>> >when converting automatically so I could tell which are which. I would
>> >then delete the singing portion leaving only the piano part, bring the
>> >tempo back to normal and ad an audio track of her singing to the midi
>> >file. Sounds reasonable only I just started learning about this whole
>> >process and have little experience. I was hoping someone might have 
>> >tried
>> >this with success already. Anyone try something like this, I'd like to
>> >hear about it. Thanks for your input and ideas.  Joe

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