so maybe it would help to extend all notes or just softer ones a little to "improve" legato playing? any ideas? if someone wants to experiment, I'll write or adapt a program to do that. On 2/16/2012 10:37 AM, Bill Brandom wrote: > Key release velocity is captured and played back only on Disklavier > PROs, Mark IV and E3 systems. > > Bill > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Spencer chase <lists@... > <mailto:lists@...>> wrote: > >> In order to really figure this out, it would help to have some real >> information instead of guesses. If there is truly a known issue with >> DKVs of your model and production date, it would be most important to >> know what that issue is. It is difficult to imagine that there is not >> some sort of fix that could be made to firmware but maybe that part >> of the control mechanism is not update able. >> >> My off the wall guess is that the piano either does not record key >> release data at all or does it badly or does not respond to key >> release data that was recorded correctly. I do not know what models >> do or do not use key release data. If this is the case and it is not >> fixable with a firmware upgrade, it might be possible to post process >> the MIDI files to "improve" them. If the piano does not respond to or >> does not respond appropriately to key release data it might be >> possible to lengthen all notes slightly to achieve a degree of >> improvement. >> >> I probably have a program somewhere that I wrote that does this. If >> not, it should not be difficult to modify a similar one to do this. >> If this is something you want to try, I'll look through my huge >> folder of utilities. Messing around a little with such a utility >> would not be a huge effort but it makes sense to first get as much >> information about the problem as possible. >> >> If would also be useful to determine if it is a key release problem >> or if it is a pedal problem. Does it happen to all notes with and >> without sustain pedal? >> >> On 2/16/2012 7:38 AM, robertm wrote: >> >>> Hi Carol, >>> My Disklavier reproduces my playing fairly well as far as how hard >>> to strike the note. But there is something that doesn't sound right >>> when the note is released--sort of a cutoff staccato effect even >>> when playing legato. Since the hammers have no contact with the >>> string after striking, I would guess it has something to do with how >>> quickly the solenoid releases at the moment of striking. When I got >>> the Disklavier, I was so happy with being able to get an authentic >>> sense of what the audience experiences when I play, that I >>> overlooked this--but over time I realized that this was interfering >>> with my enjoyment of the reproduced music. >>> >>> My piano technician is Yamaha certified to work on Disklaviers, and >>> has done several adjustments but was unable to fix the problem. I >>> wrote to Yamaha years ago about this. I found out from either my >>> Yamaha dealer or my tech (can't remember which now) that this was a >>> design issue of early Disklaviers that was later fixed by a >>> different solenoid or solenoid driver circuit, but that my piano was >>> not upgradable. >>> >>> I admit I might have this wrong, but I think this is what I heard, >>> and since I got the piano primarily as a workhorse instrument, and >>> the Disklavier part was a performance and teaching aid, it didn't >>> worry me too much. But I keep hoping that Yamaha has figured this >>> one out for my piano! >>> >>> Robert Morrison >>> >>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>> <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com>, CarolRPT <carol@...> wrote: >>> > >>> > I am curious about the mention of "solenoid clipping" on the Mark >>> II. Can you please describe this? I would be astounded that anything >>> really irritating cannot be fixed on a Disklavier. >>> > >>> > Carol Beigel >>> > >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, Spencer Chase >> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. >> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >> Spencer@... >> http://www.spencerserolls.com >> (707) 984-8356 >> (425) 791-0309 > -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com (707) 984-8356 (425) 791-0309
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Re: [disklavier] Re: solenoid clipping
2012-02-16 by Spencer chase
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