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Re: Midi sequencing experts, need your help

2012-11-30 by nicurx

Thanks for the reply.....On other files, I've actually pretty successfully changed voices (the whole gamut: string base to harmonica, flute, etc..) to acoustic piano, and even merged tracks together to simplify the file on even more compicated multipart midi's using the free sequencer I mentioned....but for some reason, no matter how I rearrange this particular piece, it plays whatever I assign to acoustic piano to play through the tone generator, even though you can tell it's just a synthesized piano voice.  Maybe there's something strange about this file that just won't allow it.

Thanks again



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer chase <lists@...> wrote:
>
> that piece is a rather complex arrangement with different parts on 
> several channels and tracks. i am not sure but i think that the DKV 
> wants a type 0 will all channels on a single track and there are 
> requirements as to where the piano parts must be located. you could 
> probably start by converting it to type 0 although there may be some 
> unanticipated conflicts converting something so complicated to type 0. 
> then you would have to move the piano parts to channels 0 and 1 and the 
> pedals (i think) to a channel lower than 3. i think that some old DKVs 
> wanted the pedals on channel 2 but i think that newer ones don't care as 
> long as they are on a channel lower than 3. this can all be done in a 
> sequencer that has the right features such as saving as type 0 and 
> addition of patches and changing of notes to different channels. this 
> sort of processing can take a lot of experience and lots of time. i have 
> some utilities that can simplify things and one that might even do most 
> of what you need automatically. first, i have a midi 1 to midi 0 
> converter but there are plenty of those around. then you will need to 
> find the piano parts and move them to channels 1 and 2 (technically 0 
> and 1 but some sequencers start counting at 1 instead of 0) and make 
> sure that channels 0 and 1 have a patch (instrument definition) of 
> either 0 or 1. if you can identify the channels that the piano parts are 
> on, you can use mu remap channels program to move them to the right 
> channel but is is also a good idea to move whatever is on channel 0 and 
> 1 to some place else.  you can find my utilities and a doc about using 
> them on the following page of my site. be warned that MIDI can get very 
> complicated and take many hours to learn how it works and how to edit 
> it. if you just want to listen to music, it might be better to spend the 
> time finding files that are already close to what you want. once you are 
> done moving channels and adding patches etc you will probably find that 
> the piece sounds awful. you really have to arrange for a target 
> instrument to have any chance of it sounding good.
> http://www.spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > First post, just found the group....looks like a lot of experts on 
> > here, so I'm going to ask a novice question.....I've been downloading 
> > tons of great midi files from a bunch of sources after getting my E3 a 
> > few weeks ago.
> >
> > I've had good results so far using the free midi sequencing software, 
> > Anvil Studios to reassign other midi voices to play on the disklavier 
> > acoustic keyboard (certainly not a great program, but free and fairly 
> > intuitive). There is one midi so far that is giving me fits, 
> > though....one particular version of BJ Thomas's 'Raindrops Keep 
> > Falling on My Head" as downloaded on the link below, sounds great via 
> > computer and okay on the disklavier, except no matter how I try to 
> > resequence, reassign channels to CH1, CH2, etc....attampts to merge 
> > tracks, change voice to acousic grand, etc....after dozens of attempts 
> > using various tricks that have worked on other files, the disklavier 
> > will only play any assigned piano parts through the tone generator, 
> > not the keys....can someone take a look at the file and see if they 
> > can let me know if there is something in the file preventing the 
> > assigning of tracks to the acoustic piano? Your input would be greatly 
> > appreciated! Thanks much.
> >
> > Link:
> >
> > http://electrofresh.com/midi-12262-download-b_j_thomas-raindrops_keep_falling_on_my_head.html
> >
> > 
> 
> -- 
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