Disklavier

On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:18 PM, discodonal wrote:

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On 13 Jun 2013, at 13:30, Carol Beigel <carol@...> wrote:

> They are both done at the same service call. The technician runs the calibration, then tunes the piano. Many times I have tuned the piano first if it needed pitch correction, run the calibration, then retuned the piano to increase stability of the tuning.
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> Carol Beigel
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> On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:18 PM, discodonal wrote:
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> > Should I get my piano tuned/serviced before or after Disklavier calibration maintenance 
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On 14 Jun 2013, at 12:42, Adrian Thomas <mangez@...> wrote:

> I would agree with Carol. Sometimes, the power applied to the hammers during calibration can throw out the tuning, so I would always stick with the sequence of 1: repair & regulate anything mechanical, 2: calibrate, 3: tune.
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> Adrian Thomas
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> On Jun 13 2013, Donal Galvin wrote: 
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> >Thanks Carol, the problem is that there are no Disklavier technicians in Ireland but I do have a Yamaha Qualified Acoustic technician to go over the mechanical end. 
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> >Sent from my iPhone
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> >On 13 Jun 2013, at 13:30, Carol Beigel wrote:
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> >> They are both done at the same service call. The technician runs the calibration, then tunes the piano. Many times I have tuned the piano first if it needed pitch correction, run the calibration, then retuned the piano to increase stability of the tuning.
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> >> Carol Beigel
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> >> On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:18 PM, discodonal wrote:
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> >> > Should I get my piano tuned/serviced before or after Disklavier calibration maintenance 
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> >> > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@...
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> >> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
> >> > disklavier-owner@...
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On Jun 14, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Donal Galvin wrote:

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> I need to calibrate the pedal as i am getting pass code 02 ??
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 14 Jun 2013, at 12:42, Adrian Thomas <mangez@...> wrote:
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>> I would agree with Carol. Sometimes, the power applied to the hammers during calibration can throw out the tuning, so I would always stick with the sequence of 1: repair & regulate anything mechanical, 2: calibrate, 3: tune.
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>> Adrian Thomas
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>> On Jun 13 2013, Donal Galvin wrote: 
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>> >Thanks Carol, the problem is that there are no Disklavier technicians in Ireland but I do have a Yamaha Qualified Acoustic technician to go over the mechanical end. 
>> >
>> >Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >On 13 Jun 2013, at 13:30, Carol Beigel wrote:
>> >
>> >> They are both done at the same service call. The technician runs the calibration, then tunes the piano. Many times I have tuned the piano first if it needed pitch correction, run the calibration, then retuned the piano to increase stability of the tuning.
>> >> 
>> >> Carol Beigel
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>> >> On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:18 PM, discodonal wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > Should I get my piano tuned/serviced before or after Disklavier calibration maintenance 
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>> >> > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@...
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>> >> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
>> >> > disklavier-owner@...
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>> >> > To reach our group's web site go to:
>> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
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On 14 Jun 2013, at 16:29, Adrian Thomas <mangez@...> wrote:

> Get the acoustic mechanics adjusted. Then adjust the solenoid to spec. Then get the piano tech to make sure that the acoustic side is still OK. Once the solenoid part is adjusted, the piano tech should only have to play around with the top of the pedal rod.
> 
> Adrian Thomas
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> On Jun 14 2013, Carol Beigel wrote: 
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> >Now we are in to something mechanical and this needs to be done correctly or the pedal solenoid can overheat and shut down the entire Disklavier. Your tech can get illustrated instructions on how to do this. One quick test is as follows. While the Disklavier is powered on, crawl under the piano and look through the vertical slot on the side  the black metal cover on the back of the pedals at the top of the rods. While pressing the damper pedal slowly all the way down, see if you can see whether or not a little green light comes on. The crucial adjustment is the 15mm marked L in the maintenance manual. When that is set, the pots are adjusted so the light comes on at the bottom of the stroke. 
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> > Or, when you put your foot on the damper pedal, how much does it move before the dampers start to rise? This is a much easier adjustment at A on a grand piano, or the top of the pedal rod cap on an upright piano, Again, the Yamaha tech can assist you with this.
> >
> >Disklaviers have a lot of slack built into the system so playback is usually fine even with the piano out of adjustment. It is Recording that needs the more precise adjustments. Good luck.
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> >Carol Beigel
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> >On Jun 14, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Donal Galvin wrote:
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> >> I need to calibrate the pedal as i am getting pass code 02 ??
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> On 14 Jun 2013, at 12:42, Adrian Thomas wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I would agree with Carol. Sometimes, the power applied to the hammers during calibration can throw out the tuning, so I would always stick with the sequence of 1: repair & regulate anything mechanical, 2: calibrate, 3: tune.
> >>> 
> >>> Adrian Thomas
> >>> 
> >>> On Jun 13 2013, Donal Galvin wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> >Thanks Carol, the problem is that there are no Disklavier technicians in Ireland but I do have a Yamaha Qualified Acoustic technician to go over the mechanical end. 
> >>> >
> >>> >Sent from my iPhone
> >>> >
> >>> >On 13 Jun 2013, at 13:30, Carol Beigel wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> They are both done at the same service call. The technician runs the calibration, then tunes the piano. Many times I have tuned the piano first if it needed pitch correction, run the calibration, then retuned the piano to increase stability of the tuning.
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> Carol Beigel
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> >>> >> On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:18 PM, discodonal wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> > Should I get my piano tuned/serviced before or after Disklavier calibration maintenance 
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> >>> >> > ------------------------------------
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@...
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
> >>> >> > disklavier-owner@...
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> >>> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> >>> >> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> >>> >> > disklavier-unsubscribe@... 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to:
> >>> >> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> >>> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join 
> >>> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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On 14 Jun 2013, at 16:29, Adrian Thomas <mangez@...> wrote:

> Get the acoustic mechanics adjusted. Then adjust the solenoid to spec. Then get the piano tech to make sure that the acoustic side is still OK. Once the solenoid part is adjusted, the piano tech should only have to play around with the top of the pedal rod.
> 
> Adrian Thomas
> 
> On Jun 14 2013, Carol Beigel wrote: 
> 
> >Now we are in to something mechanical and this needs to be done correctly or the pedal solenoid can overheat and shut down the entire Disklavier. Your tech can get illustrated instructions on how to do this. One quick test is as follows. While the Disklavier is powered on, crawl under the piano and look through the vertical slot on the side the black metal cover on the back of the pedals at the top of the rods. While pressing the damper pedal slowly all the way down, see if you can see whether or not a little green light comes on. The crucial adjustment is the 15mm marked L in the maintenance manual. When that is set, the pots are adjusted so the light comes on at the bottom of the stroke. 
> >
> > Or, when you put your foot on the damper pedal, how much does it move before the dampers start to rise? This is a much easier adjustment at A on a grand piano, or the top of the pedal rod cap on an upright piano, Again, the Yamaha tech can assist you with this.
> >
> >Disklaviers have a lot of slack built into the system so playback is usually fine even with the piano out of adjustment. It is Recording that needs the more precise adjustments. Good luck.
> >
> >Carol Beigel
> >
> >On Jun 14, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Donal Galvin wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I need to calibrate the pedal as i am getting pass code 02 ??
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> On 14 Jun 2013, at 12:42, Adrian Thomas wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I would agree with Carol. Sometimes, the power applied to the hammers during calibration can throw out the tuning, so I would always stick with the sequence of 1: repair & regulate anything mechanical, 2: calibrate, 3: tune.
> >>> 
> >>> Adrian Thomas
> >>> 
> >>> On Jun 13 2013, Donal Galvin wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> >Thanks Carol, the problem is that there are no Disklavier technicians in Ireland but I do have a Yamaha Qualified Acoustic technician to go over the mechanical end. 
> >>> >
> >>> >Sent from my iPhone
> >>> >
> >>> >On 13 Jun 2013, at 13:30, Carol Beigel wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> They are both done at the same service call. The technician runs the calibration, then tunes the piano. Many times I have tuned the piano first if it needed pitch correction, run the calibration, then retuned the piano to increase stability of the tuning.
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> Carol Beigel
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:18 PM, discodonal wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> > Should I get my piano tuned/serviced before or after Disklavier calibration maintenance 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > ------------------------------------
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@...
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
> >>> >> > disklavier-owner@...
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> >>> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> >>> >> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> >>> >> > disklavier-unsubscribe@... 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to:
> >>> >> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> >>> >> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join 
> >>> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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