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SSD Boot Times

SSD Boot Times

2014-02-03 by <vincent.joshua.lin@...>

After fixing my PRC-100 CF card issue, I went ahead and performed an SSD swap a couple nights ago.


I purchased a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO. Total cost before tax on the expansion was roughly about $100 - ($89 for the drive, another $10 for the SATA-to-IDE board and the 2.5 to 3.5 inch bracket adapter).

I timed the total boot before the swap at about 3 minutes - that is the time from pushing the power supply to a solid light (the second solid light).

After installing the drive, the boot time was about 2 minutes 30 seconds. I was a little disappointed it wasn't faster. The menu on the PRC-100 does seem a lot snappier - so it's clear it polls the drive's contents real-time.

FIRST QUESTION: I'm wondering if anyone else on the group is experiencing significantly better times on boot up - and if it is the result of a faster drive (than my SSD) in general. What SSD drives are other people using?

SECOND QUESTION: Does anyone know how to check the drive size from either the PRC-100 or from DKVBrowser?

As an aside, the install went fairly smooth. Had a bit of a hang-up when I cloned the drive (used a tuxboot Live USB Clonezilla to clone the drive, then a tuxboot Live USB Gparted to enlarge the data partition to fill the rest of the drive)...both free tools available online. The problem occurred when I was trying to expand the data partition. Couldn't get Gparted to expand the filesystem to fill the new partition size - ended up having to go into the command line to force it to expand. It looks like it took - and the Disklavier is working fine. I'm glad I have a back-up now of my original drive. Anyone else experience the same issue when trying to expand the data partition?

- Vincent

Re: [disklavier] SSD Boot Times

2014-02-03 by Kevin Goroway

The PRC-100 isn't polling the drive contents, per se.  It is running database queries...and the database is file based.  So, the queries are much faster.  Same net result.

To check your drive size from either the PRC-100 or DKVBrowser, you have to do some operation which changes your available space...so, copy a song, or something along those lines.  DKVBrowser will display the total space left down in the status bar, while the PRC-100 will pop up a dialog after the operation.

-Kevin


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After fixing my PRC-100 CF card issue, I went ahead and performed an SSD swap a couple nights ago.

I purchased a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO.  Total cost before tax on the expansion was roughly about $100 - ($89 for the drive, another $10 for the SATA-to-IDE board and the 2.5 to 3.5 inch bracket adapter).

I timed the total boot before the swap at about 3 minutes - that is the time from pushing the power supply to a solid light (the second solid light).

After installing the drive, the boot time was about 2 minutes 30 seconds.  I was a little disappointed it wasn't faster.  The menu on the PRC-100 does seem a lot snappier - so it's clear it polls the drive's contents real-time.

FIRST QUESTION: I'm wondering if anyone else on the group is experiencing significantly better times on boot up - and if it is the result of a faster drive (than my SSD) in general.  What SSD drives are other people using?

SECOND QUESTION: Does anyone know how to check the drive size from either the PRC-100 or from DKVBrowser?

As an aside, the install went fairly smooth.  Had a bit of a hang-up when I cloned the drive (used a tuxboot Live USB Clonezilla to clone the drive, then a tuxboot Live USB Gparted to enlarge the data partition to fill the rest of the drive)...both free tools available online.  The problem occurred when I was trying to expand the data partition.  Couldn't get Gparted to expand the filesystem to fill the new partition size - ended up having to go into the command line to force it to expand.   It looks like it took - and the Disklavier is working fine.  I'm glad I have a back-up now of my original drive.  Anyone else experience the same issue when trying to expand the data partition?

- Vincent

Re: [disklavier] SSD Boot Times

2014-02-04 by <vincent.joshua.lin@...>

Thanks for the response Kevin. Big problem is it only shows how much free space I have available - and I didn't check free space prior to the swap. I have no idea if it's correctly showing what's available - or if I still have the filesystem expansion issue.


According to the system, I now have 68 GB free. The original drive of course was a total of 80 GB (don't know how much the default system files and the demo albums are supposed to be) - and the new drive is 120 GB. I have no idea how much space my original albums songs were taking up. Is there a way to see how much space each folder is occupying using DKVBrowser?


- V

Re: [disklavier] SSD Boot Times

2014-02-04 by carwizard


If you just cloned the drive, it will be waisting the additional size. I used Parted Magic to expand my SSD to its full size. So first you clone the drive and then you expand it.

Take Care,
Neal Polan - President
Affordable Classics, Inc.
310-542-5824 w


Re: [disklavier] SSD Boot Times

2014-02-04 by <vincent.joshua.lin@...>

I used Clonezilla to clone the drive. Then Gparted to expand the last data partition to fill the rest of the drive. Gparted showed some kind of error, and had some trouble expanding the file system to fit the expanded partition, but I managed to force it.


It looked ok in the partition table, but I want to verify that the Disklavier is seeing the extra space - that's why I was asking if anyone knew how to see the total drive size using the PRC-100 or DKVBrowser.

Re: [disklavier] SSD Boot Times

2014-02-04 by Spencer Chase

i use EaseUS for cloning and used something similar before that. both 
programs have the option to resize partitions proportionately between 
source and target drives. i know that the old program allowed you to set 
the size of the partitions to amything you want but i forget if EaseUS 
lets you do that.

On 2/3/2014 8:40 PM, carwizard wrote:
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> If you just cloned the drive, it will be waisting the additional size. 
> I used Parted Magic to expand my SSD to its full size. So first you 
> clone the drive and then you expand it.
>
> Take Care,
> Neal Polan - President
> Affordable Classics, Inc.
> 310-542-5824 <tel:310-542-5824> w
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> 

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Re: [disklavier] SSD Boot Times

2014-02-04 by Kevin Goroway

DKVBrowser can't do anything that Yamaha didn't build in support for...so I don't know of any way to get the "total" storage size.

But having 68GB free is a TON of space.  I don't know what you had on there before, but a reasonable way to look at it is like this:  MIDI files take up almost zero space.  CD audio that has been copied to the piano takes up enormous amounts of space (Yamaha stores it in uncompressed format, so a CD can take as much as 700megs (0.7 gig) on your hard drive).

Do you have a lot of CDs copied to the piano? 

Based on what's on my (unexpanded) piano, and the amount of stuff I have stored on it, I would say that your 68gigs indicates that you did successfully expand the partition.  

-Kevin
 

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Thanks for the response Kevin.  Big problem is it only shows how much free space I have available - and I didn't check free space prior to the swap.  I have no idea if it's correctly showing what's available - or if I still have the filesystem expansion issue.

According to the system, I now have 68 GB free.  The original drive of course was a total of 80 GB (don't know how much the default system files and the demo albums are supposed to be) - and the new drive is 120 GB.  I have no idea how much space my original albums songs were taking up.  Is there a way to see how much space each folder is occupying using  DKVBrowser?

- V

Re: [disklavier] SSD Boot Times

2014-02-04 by carwizard

Sounds like your on top of it. I used Parted Magic as well and a disc cloning machine. I did not run into your problem, however I could not use a samsung SSD. Never figured out why, and ended up using 256 Corsair Neutron CSSD-N256GB3-BK

Take Care
Neal Polan - President
Affordable Classics, Inc. Restorations

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