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How to play MIDI files on my PC?

How to play MIDI files on my PC?

2015-01-02 by Jon Arnold

I have been accumulating a lot of midi files for my Yamaha DKC850. At least
I *think* they are midi files, even though the file extension is ".FIL"?

 

Is there a way I can play them on my PC? Most of my midi folders on my PC do
not have an index of the songs and its not always easy to tell what the song
is just based on the filename.

 

It doesn't have to be "production quality" but good enough for me to create
a song title index, without copying each of them to a thumb drive and
tediously scrolling through each one on the DKC850?

 

Thanks

Jon

Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

2015-01-02 by Spencer Chase

.fil is yamaha's own format and is not midi. i do not know of any converter.
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On 1/2/2015 8:08 AM, 'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@... [disklavier] wrote:

I have been accumulating a lot of midi files for my Yamaha DKC850. At least I *think* they are midi files, even though the file extension is “.FIL”?

Is there a way I can play them on my PC? Most of my midi folders on my PC do not have an index of the songs and its not always easy to tell what the song is just based on the filename.

It doesn’t have to be “production quality” but good enough for me to create a song title index, without copying each of them to a thumb drive and tediously scrolling through each one on the DKC850?

Thanks

Jon


-- 

Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

RE: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

2015-01-02 by Jon Arnold

I don't want to *convert* them to a different format, just *PLAY* them so I
can catalog the song titles.
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:19 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

 

  

.fil is yamaha's own format and is not midi. i do not know of any converter.


On 1/2/2015 8:08 AM, 'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@...
<mailto:jonarnold@...>  [disklavier] wrote:

  

I have been accumulating a lot of midi files for my Yamaha DKC850. At least
I *think* they are midi files, even though the file extension is ".FIL"?

 

Is there a way I can play them on my PC? Most of my midi folders on my PC do
not have an index of the songs and its not always easy to tell what the song
is just based on the filename.

 

It doesn't have to be "production quality" but good enough for me to create
a song title index, without copying each of them to a thumb drive and
tediously scrolling through each one on the DKC850?

 

Thanks

Jon

 





-- 
 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> 
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

2015-01-02 by Spencer Chase

i forgot about converter software that is available. it has been a long time since i looked at it. you can get it on this site. look for "dkvutils" there is also yamplayer that is supposed to play on your pc direct from floppies. no idea if it will play from files elsewhere
http://www.midiplayertools.com/musicsoftware.htm
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On 1/2/2015 8:22 AM, 'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@... [disklavier] wrote:

I don’t want to *convert* them to a different format, just *PLAY* them so I can catalog the song titles.

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:19 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

.fil is yamaha's own format and is not midi. i do not know of any converter.

On 1/2/2015 8:08 AM, 'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@earthlink.net [disklavier] wrote:

I have been accumulating a lot of midi files for my Yamaha DKC850. At least I *think* they are midi files, even though the file extension is “.FIL”?

Is there a way I can play them on my PC? Most of my midi folders on my PC do not have an index of the songs and its not always easy to tell what the song is just based on the filename.

It doesn’t have to be “production quality” but good enough for me to create a song title index, without copying each of them to a thumb drive and tediously scrolling through each one on the DKC850?

Thanks

Jon



-- 
 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309


-- 

Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

2015-01-06 by Brad Harper

Jon,

I use the YAM Player to play .FIL files that are on my hard disk or 
Network Shared hard drives.  The YAM player supports XG extensions as well 
so you get a good reproduction, and a fairly close rendition of what will 
play on a Disklavier.  The FIL format is the Native format of Most of the 
Disklavier and Clavinova players.  The files were usually on a 3 1/2" Inch 
diskettes and could not be seen using normal PC software.  If you use the 
DKVCOPY.EXE utility with the right DOS software running, you can copy 
these disks and the result will be an IBM formatted disk that can then be 
read on a normal computer.  The files will then be visible, and will have 
the .FIL extension.  If they have a .MID extension, than these disks are 
newer, and the files can be copied off and played as regular MDI files.  
If there is no extension, they are .FIL Files.  Yamaha used this method to 
prevent disk and song copying, but didn’t allow you to make back-ups.  Im 
sure these files are also loaded onto the DKC-850 controller, to play in 
play lists.

The Geibler Software has a disk utility that allows you to Extract songs 
from a disk, to a YFD intermediate format, using their DOMSMF package.  
Then you can use their utility to convert the YFD file to MID  with 
Converting and Patch File mapping.

If you also have a usb to Midi attachment like the Yamaha UX16 USB to MIDI 
interface, than you can play those files into your MIDI IN port on your 
disklavier.  

I run mine on a MacBook Pro, in a WindowsXP Parallels Virtual Machine, and 
it works great.  I also have some old software that works fine as well, 
like the VanBoscoe Player,  Midisoft Studio, XG Synth, and the Y100 XG 
extensions, and various other Sequencing software.

It may run under other Operating Systems as well, I just haven’t tried in 
Win 200, Vista, 7 or 8.1.  I will let you know, as I have all those 
Virtual Machines as well.

Of course the YAM Player also supports SMF(standard midi files) with a 
.MID extension as well.  It is a very compact little player, but has the 
capability to convert files to MIDI and save them on the fly as they are 
played from .FIL files.  It also has a batch converter that links to the 
ESEQ2MID.exe file in the Midi tools library.

Most of this stuff is at http://www.kuhmann.com/Yamaha.htm
Or at the Carol Beigel site. http://www.carolrpt.com


Attached is a listing of the systems that can play ESEQ .FIL format files 
from Carols site. 

If you goto these sites and read up on all of the documents, you will 
become knowledgeable about all the options.

Best Regards

Brad

Brad Harper
Grand Rapids, Michigan
DGH1B Mark II DKC100R MU50 UX16
bharper33@yahoo.com
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From:  "'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@... [disklavier]" 
<disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To:  <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Date:  Friday, January 2, 2015 at 11:22 AM
To:  <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Subject:  RE: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

 
 
 
 
   

I don’t want to *convert* them to a different format, just *PLAY* them so 
I can catalog the song titles.

 

 

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:19 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

 

  

.fil is yamaha's own format and is not midi. i do not know of any 
converter. 

On 1/2/2015 8:08 AM, 'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@earthlink.net [disklavier] 
wrote:

  

I have been accumulating a lot of midi files for my Yamaha DKC850. At 
least I *think* they are midi files, even though the file extension is 
“.FIL”?

 

Is there a way I can play them on my PC? Most of my midi folders on my PC 
do not have an index of the songs and its not always easy to tell what the 
song is just based on the filename.

 

It doesn’t have to be “production quality” but good enough for me to 
create a song title index, without copying each of them to a thumb drive 
and tediously scrolling through each one on the DKC850?

 

Thanks

Jon

 



-- 
 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

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RE: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC? [1 Attachment]

2015-01-06 by Jon Arnold

Thanks Brad, I think I am pretty much in cool mode with my new DKC850. I found some software that can rip the files off my disklavier floppies and store them on my computer (PC), and can copy selected ones to thumb drives to plug into the USB port on the 850.  (I am still not sure of the purpose of the PIANO.FIL file that is on almost every floppy though, as it doesn’t seem to be a music file itself?) I got subscribed to Disklavier TV and am enjoying the selections there very much, as well as using an iPad to control the live performances from there and show them by connecting the iPad to my LED TV while the iPad is talking via Bluetooth to the 850.

 

Super impressive technology and am enjoying the heck out of it. I haven’t yet had time to read through the 850 manual to find out how to make a playlist, but I suppose I could just create a series of thumb drives with appropriate playlists on them; ie, “spa”, “party”, “background”, etc.

 

Jon
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 1:46 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC? [1 Attachment]

 

  

[Attachment(s) from Brad Harper included below] 

Jon,

 

I use the YAM Player to play .FIL files that are on my hard disk or Network Shared hard drives.  The YAM player supports XG extensions as well so you get a good reproduction, and a fairly close rendition of what will play on a Disklavier.  The FIL format is the Native format of Most of the Disklavier and Clavinova players.  The files were usually on a 3 1/2" Inch diskettes and could not be seen using normal PC software.  If you use the DKVCOPY.EXE utility with the right DOS software running, you can copy these disks and the result will be an IBM formatted disk that can then be read on a normal computer.  The files will then be visible, and will have the .FIL extension.  If they have a .MID extension, thIan these disks are newer, and the files can be copied off and played as regular MDI files.  If there is no extension, they are .FIL Files.  Yamaha used this method to prevent disk and song copying, but didn’t allow you to make back-ups.  Im sure these files are also loaded onto the DKC-850 controller, to play in play lists.

 

The Geibler Software has a disk utility that allows you to Extract songs from a disk, to a YFD intermediate format, using their DOMSMF package.  Then you can use their utility to convert the YFD file to MID  with Converting and Patch File mapping.

 

If you also have a usb to Midi attachment like the Yamaha UX16 USB to MIDI interface, than you can play those files into your MIDI IN port on your disklavier.  

 

I run mine on a MacBook Pro, in a WindowsXP Parallels Virtual Machine, and it works great.  I also have some old software that works fine as well, like the VanBoscoe Player,  Midisoft Studio, XG Synth, and the Y100 XG extensions, and various other Sequencing software.

 

It may run under other Operating Systems as well, I just haven’t tried in Win 200, Vista, 7 or 8.1.  I will let you know, as I have all those Virtual Machines as well.

 

Of course the YAM Player also supports SMF(standard midi files) with a .MID extension as well.  It is a very compact little player, but has the capability to convert files to MIDI and save them on the fly as they are played from .FIL files.  It also has a batch converter that links to the ESEQ2MID.exe file in the Midi tools library.

 

Most of this stuff is at http://www.kuhmann.com/Yamaha.htm

Or at the Carol Beigel site. http://www.carolrpt.com

 

 

Attached is a listing of the systems that can play ESEQ .FIL format files from Carols site. 

 

If you goto these sites and read up on all of the documents, you will become knowledgeable about all the options.

 

Best Regards

 

Brad

 

Brad Harper

Grand Rapids, Michigan

DGH1B Mark II DKC100R MU50 UX16

bharper33@... <mailto:bharper33@...> 

 

From: "'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@... <mailto:jonarnold@earthlink.net>  [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >
Reply-To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, January 2, 2015 at 11:22 AM
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: RE: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

 

  

I don’t want to *convert* them to a different format, just *PLAY* them so I can catalog the song titles.

 

 

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:19 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

 

  

.fil is yamaha's own format and is not midi. i do not know of any converter. 

On 1/2/2015 8:08 AM, 'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@... <mailto:jonarnold@earthlink.net>  [disklavier] wrote:

  

I have been accumulating a lot of midi files for my Yamaha DKC850. At least I *think* they are midi files, even though the file extension is “.FIL”?

 

Is there a way I can play them on my PC? Most of my midi folders on my PC do not have an index of the songs and its not always easy to tell what the song is just based on the filename.

 

It doesn’t have to be “production quality” but good enough for me to create a song title index, without copying each of them to a thumb drive and tediously scrolling through each one on the DKC850?

 

Thanks

Jon

 






-- 
 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@spencerserolls.com> 
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

2015-01-06 by Brad Harper

The PIANO.FIL is the directory for what is displayed on the DKC 
controller, and tells the controller where the files begin and end.  It is 
diskette specific to the contents of that specific diskette for the input 
system. It plays no function, once you are not using the diskettes.  It is 
required if you create your own diskettes for the disklavier.  Some of the 
software at the referenced sites help you to recreate the file from the 
files you intend to put on the diskette.

Enjoy your 850, for those of us with Older systems, we can’t take full 
advantage of that upgrade.

… Brad
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From:  "'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@... [disklavier]" 
<disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To:  <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Date:  Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 8:06 AM
To:  <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Subject:  RE: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

 
 
 
 
   

Thanks Brad, I think I am pretty much in cool mode with my new DKC850. I 
found some software that can rip the files off my disklavier floppies and 
store them on my computer (PC), and can copy selected ones to thumb drives 
to plug into the USB port on the 850.  (I am still not sure of the purpose 
of the PIANO.FIL file that is on almost every floppy though, as it doesn’t 
seem to be a music file itself?) I got subscribed to Disklavier TV and am 
enjoying the selections there very much, as well as using an iPad to 
control the live performances from there and show them by connecting the 
iPad to my LED TV while the iPad is talking via Bluetooth to the 850.

 

Super impressive technology and am enjoying the heck out of it. I haven’t 
yet had time to read through the 850 manual to find out how to make a 
playlist, but I suppose I could just create a series of thumb drives with 
appropriate playlists on them; ie, “spa”, “party”, “background”, etc.

 

Jon

 

 

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 1:46 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC? [1 Attachment]

 

  

[Attachment(s) from Brad Harper included below] 

Jon,

 

I use the YAM Player to play .FIL files that are on my hard disk or 
Network Shared hard drives.  The YAM player supports XG extensions as well 
so you get a good reproduction, and a fairly close rendition of what will 
play on a Disklavier.  The FIL format is the Native format of Most of the 
Disklavier and Clavinova players.  The files were usually on a 3 1/2" Inch 
diskettes and could not be seen using normal PC software.  If you use the 
DKVCOPY.EXE utility with the right DOS software running, you can copy 
these disks and the result will be an IBM formatted disk that can then be 
read on a normal computer.  The files will then be visible, and will have 
the .FIL extension.  If they have a .MID extension, thIan these disks are 
newer, and the files can be copied off and played as regular MDI files.  
If there is no extension, they are .FIL Files.  Yamaha used this method to 
prevent disk and song copying, but didn’t allow you to make back-ups.  Im 
sure these files are also loaded onto the DKC-850 controller, to play in 
play lists.

 

The Geibler Software has a disk utility that allows you to Extract songs 
from a disk, to a YFD intermediate format, using their DOMSMF package.  
Then you can use their utility to convert the YFD file to MID  with 
Converting and Patch File mapping.

 

If you also have a usb to Midi attachment like the Yamaha UX16 USB to MIDI 
interface, than you can play those files into your MIDI IN port on your 
disklavier.  

 

I run mine on a MacBook Pro, in a WindowsXP Parallels Virtual Machine, and 
it works great.  I also have some old software that works fine as well, 
like the VanBoscoe Player,  Midisoft Studio, XG Synth, and the Y100 XG 
extensions, and various other Sequencing software.

 

It may run under other Operating Systems as well, I just haven’t tried in 
Win 200, Vista, 7 or 8.1.  I will let you know, as I have all those 
Virtual Machines as well.

 

Of course the YAM Player also supports SMF(standard midi files) with a 
.MID extension as well.  It is a very compact little player, but has the 
capability to convert files to MIDI and save them on the fly as they are 
played from .FIL files.  It also has a batch converter that links to the 
ESEQ2MID.exe file in the Midi tools library.

 

Most of this stuff is at http://www.kuhmann.com/Yamaha.htm

Or at the Carol Beigel site. http://www.carolrpt.com

 

 

Attached is a listing of the systems that can play ESEQ .FIL format files 
from Carols site. 

 

If you goto these sites and read up on all of the documents, you will 
become knowledgeable about all the options.

 

Best Regards

 

Brad

 

Brad Harper

Grand Rapids, Michigan

DGH1B Mark II DKC100R MU50 UX16

bharper33@...

 

From: "'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@... [disklavier]" 
<disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, January 2, 2015 at 11:22 AM
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

 

  

I don’t want to *convert* them to a different format, just *PLAY* them so 
I can catalog the song titles.

 

 

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:19 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] How to play MIDI files on my PC?

 

  

.fil is yamaha's own format and is not midi. i do not know of any 
converter. 

On 1/2/2015 8:08 AM, 'Jon Arnold' jonarnold@... [disklavier] 
wrote:

  

I have been accumulating a lot of midi files for my Yamaha DKC850. At 
least I *think* they are midi files, even though the file extension is 
“.FIL”?

 

Is there a way I can play them on my PC? Most of my midi folders on my PC 
do not have an index of the songs and its not always easy to tell what the 
song is just based on the filename.

 

It doesn’t have to be “production quality” but good enough for me to 
create a song title index, without copying each of them to a thumb drive 
and tediously scrolling through each one on the DKC850?

 

Thanks

Jon

 




-- 
 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.