Strong metallic noise with main pedal of Disklavier DC6E3PRO
2015-09-06 by Julien Roche
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2015-09-06 by Julien Roche
2015-09-06 by Bill Brandom
Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. Can you email it direct to me? bill.brandom03@... Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@ymail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Julien Roche included below] See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-06 by Julien Roche
Le 6 sept. 2015 17:22:14, Bill Brandom billbrando@aol.com [disklavier] a écrit :Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post.Can you email it direct to me?
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-06 by Bill Brandom
Hi again Julien, That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. I hope this makes sense. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. Can you email it direct to me? bill.brandom03@... Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-06 by Julien Roche
Le 6 sept. 2015 17:54:18, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :Hi again Julien,That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L.If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough.I hope this makes sense.BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post.Can you email it direct to me?
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-06 by Bill Brandom
Julien, let me know. I believe if you make a recording pushing pedal down and letting it come up many times, and then play it back and get under the piano, you will see where the metallic noise is coming from. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks i will do that and advise Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPad Le 6 sept. 2015 17:54:18, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit : Hi again Julien, That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. I hope this makes sense. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. Can you email it direct to me? bill.brandom03@gmail.com Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-11 by Julien Roche
Le 6 sept. 2015 19:57:50, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :Julien, let me know. I believe if you make a recording pushing pedal down and letting it come up many times, and then play it back and get under the piano, you will see where the metallic noise is coming from.BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Le 6 sept. 2015 17:54:18, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :Hi again Julien,That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L.If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough.I hope this makes sense.BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post.Can you email it direct to me?
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-11 by Bill Brandom
This is great news Julien! You are now an official Disklavier technician!! Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Bill, I did what you said. Working perfectly now. Thank you ! Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPad Le 6 sept. 2015 19:57:50, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit : Julien, let me know. I believe if you make a recording pushing pedal down and letting it come up many times, and then play it back and get under the piano, you will see where the metallic noise is coming from. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks i will do that and advise Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPad Le 6 sept. 2015 17:54:18, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit : Hi again Julien, That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. I hope this makes sense. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. Can you email it direct to me? bill.brandom03@... Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-12 by Julien Roche
Le 11 sept. 2015 07:21:14, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :This is great news Julien! You are now an official Disklavier technician!!BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Bill, I did what you said. Working perfectly now. Thank you !Le 6 sept. 2015 19:57:50, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :Julien, let me know. I believe if you make a recording pushing pedal down and letting it come up many times, and then play it back and get under the piano, you will see where the metallic noise is coming from.BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Le 6 sept. 2015 17:54:18, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :Hi again Julien,That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L.If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough.I hope this makes sense.BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post.Can you email it direct to me?
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-12 by Skanter123
Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages. Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually. Any ideas? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi again Julien, > > That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. > > If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. > > I hope this makes sense. > > Bill > Love God. Love People. Make a difference. > > > On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. > > Can you email it direct to me? > > bill.brandom03@... > > Bill > Love God. Love People. Make a difference. > > > On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien > >
2015-09-12 by carwizard
My technician (Mark Hullibarger) lengthened my pedal rod just long enough to take up the excessive play that was making the noise. You have to be careful not to over tighten it which will hang up a solenoid and cause it to overheat and flip a code. When this happens, it plays correctly for a while and then you lose your petals until it cools down. You can figure out which Rod has too much play by letting the piano play and holding pressure on each petal rod in the up or down position until you hear the noise change. That's the offending rod. [http://static.ideasunplugged.com/signature/s_000/t_efex4B.jpg] Neal Polan - President Affordable Classics, Inc. 310-930-5785 On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@...<mailto:skanter123@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages. Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually. Any ideas? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com<http://www.keyboardcollective.com> (212) 684-3304 On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@...<mailto:bill.brandom03@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Hi again Julien, That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. I hope this makes sense. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@...<mailto:billbrando@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. Can you email it direct to me? bill.brandom03@...<mailto:bill.brandom03@...> Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@...<mailto:julien.roche@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-12 by Skanter123
I just tightened the wing nut just above the pedal and the noise is gone for now! I thought I had done that before, but it must have loosened... Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:59 PM, carwizard carwizard@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > My technician (Mark Hullibarger) lengthened my pedal rod just long enough to take up the excessive play that was making the noise. You have to be careful not to over tighten it which will hang up a solenoid and cause it to overheat and flip a code. When this happens, it plays correctly for a while and then you lose your petals until it cools down. You can figure out which Rod has too much play by letting the piano play and holding pressure on each petal rod in the up or down position until you hear the noise change. That's the offending rod. > > > Neal Polan - President > Affordable Classics, Inc. > 310-930-5785 > > > On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages. > > Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually. > > Any ideas? > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> Hi again Julien, >> >> That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. >> >> If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. >> >> I hope this makes sense. >> >> Bill >> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >> >> >> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. >> >> Can you email it direct to me? >> >> bill.brandom03@... >> >> Bill >> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >> >> >> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@ymail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien > >
2015-09-14 by Bill AOL
Sam, I am quite sure your Disklavier pedal components need adjustment and calibration. Bill iPad
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages. > > Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually. > > Any ideas? > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > >> On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi again Julien, >> >> That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. >> >> If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. >> >> I hope this makes sense. >> >> Bill >> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >> >> >> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com > wrote: >> >> >> Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. >> >> Can you email it direct to me? >> >> bill.brandom03@gmail.com >> >> Bill >> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >> >> >> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien > >
2015-09-14 by Bill AOL
Julien, I am not sure what to say. That is an incredible offer!!! You should be careful. I may take you up on our offer! I have never been to Albania... Bill iPad
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Ahahahah Thank you. I want to invite you as expert of DKV to visit me in Albania for some days next spring 1 day to take care of my two disklaviers (mark 4 and E3) and as much days as you want to visit Albania. I will cover all you costs, transport and accommodation. Hope you may accept ! > > > Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPad > > Le 11 sept. 2015 07:21:14, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit : > This is great news Julien! You are now an official Disklavier technician!! > > Bill > Love God. Love People. Make a difference. > > > On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Bill, I did what you said. Working perfectly now. Thank you ! > > Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPad > > Le 6 sept. 2015 19:57:50, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit : > Julien, let me know. I believe if you make a recording pushing pedal down and letting it come up many times, and then play it back and get under the piano, you will see where the metallic noise is coming from. > > Bill > Love God. Love People. Make a difference. > > > On Sep 6, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Thanks i will do that and advise > > > Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPad > > Le 6 sept. 2015 17:54:18, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit : > Hi again Julien, > > That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. > > If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. > > I hope this makes sense. > > Bill > Love God. Love People. Make a difference. > > > On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. > > Can you email it direct to me? > > bill.brandom03@... > > Bill > Love God. Love People. Make a difference. > > > On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien > >
2015-09-14 by Julien Roche
Le 14 sept. 2015 09:09:02, Bill AOL billbrando@... [disklavier] a écrit :Julien, I am not sure what to say. That is an incredible offer!!! You should be careful. I may take you up on our offer! I have never been to Albania...Bill iPad
On Sep 12, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@ymail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Ahahahah Thank you. I want to invite you as expert of DKV to visit me in Albania for some days next spring 1 day to take care of my two disklaviers (mark 4 and E3) and as much days as you want to visit Albania. I will cover all you costs, transport and accommodation. Hope you may accept !
Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPadLe 11 sept. 2015 07:21:14, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :This is great news Julien! You are now an official Disklavier technician!!BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Bill, I did what you said. Working perfectly now. Thank you !Le 6 sept. 2015 19:57:50, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :Julien, let me know. I believe if you make a recording pushing pedal down and letting it come up many times, and then play it back and get under the piano, you will see where the metallic noise is coming from.BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Le 6 sept. 2015 17:54:18, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] a écrit :Hi again Julien,That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L.If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough.I hope this makes sense.BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post.Can you email it direct to me?
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@...m [disklavier] disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-14 by Sam Kanter
Bill, in tightened the wing nut right on top of the pedal, knocking has stopped for now, but don't know if that has affected proper sustain playback. Is there a way to test this? I don't have a DKV tech, my regular tuner/tech doesn't know DKVs. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304 *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:56 AM, Bill AOL billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Sam, > > I am quite sure your Disklavier pedal components need adjustment and calibration. > > Bill > > iPad > >> On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages. >> >> Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi again Julien, >>> >>> That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. >>> >>> If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. >>> >>> I hope this makes sense. >>> >>> Bill >>> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >>> >>> >>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com > wrote: >>> >>> >>> Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. >>> >>> Can you email it direct to me? >>> >>> bill.brandom03@... >>> >>> Bill >>> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >>> >>> >>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien > >
2015-09-14 by Bill Brandom
Bill, in tightened the wing nut right on top of the pedal, knocking has stopped for now, but don't know if that has affected proper sustain playback. Is there a way to test this?I don't have a DKV tech, my regular tuner/tech doesn't know DKVs.
Sam*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:56 AM, Bill AOL billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Sam,I am quite sure your Disklavier pedal components need adjustment and calibration.
Bill iPad
On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages.Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi again Julien,That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L.If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough.I hope this makes sense.BillLove God. Love People. Make a difference.Julien, for some reason I can9;t play the video from your post.Can you email it direct to me?
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
2015-09-14 by Sam Kanter
Thanks Bill, makes sense - will do and report back. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304 *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Sam, > > Adjusting the wing nut is just one part of the mechanical adjustments for Disklavier upright pianos. If the noise has been eliminated, then the way I would test it is to make a simple recording pressing the pedal down and releasing it several times, while watching the dampers lift from the strings. > > Then play back your recording and see if the dampers are lifting as they did during your recording. If so, you are in pretty good shape with the pedals. > > Bill > > Bill > Love God. Love People. Make a difference. > > > >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Bill, in tightened the wing nut right on top of the pedal, knocking has stopped for now, but don't know if that has affected proper sustain playback. Is there a way to test this? >> >> I don't have a DKV tech, my regular tuner/tech doesn't know DKVs. >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.) >> >>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:56 AM, Bill AOL billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@...m> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sam, >>> >>> I am quite sure your Disklavier pedal components need adjustment and calibration. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> iPad >>> >>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@gmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages. >>>> >>>> Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually. >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@gmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi again Julien, >>>>> >>>>> That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. >>>>> >>>>> If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. >>>>> >>>>> Can you email it direct to me? >>>>> >>>>> bill.brandom03@... >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien > >
2015-09-14 by Spencer Chase
Bill, in tightened the wing nut right on top of the pedal, knocking has stopped for now, but don't know if that has affected proper sustain playback. Is there a way to test this?
I don't have a DKV tech, my regular tuner/tech doesn't know DKVs.
Sam(212) 684-3304
*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:56 AM, Bill AOL billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Sam,
I am quite sure your Disklavier pedal components need adjustment and calibration.
Bill
iPad
On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages.
Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@gmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi again Julien,
That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L.
If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough.
I hope this makes sense.
Bill
Love God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post.
Can you email it direct to me?
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <;disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com (425) 791-0309
2015-09-14 by Skanter123
Spencer, not sure what you mean by "proportional". Certainly more than up/down on/off. It Is a MPX100II Mark II DKV. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Spencer Chase lists@spencerserolls.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > does the DKV in question respond to proportional pedal controllers? i have a program that will send specific controller messages to a MIDI device so you could check calibration this way if you know what pedal controller value corresponds to the damper "brush point" is that a specific number for DKVs? you could also make a file in a sequencer with various pedal controllers. cakewalk lets you draw controllers in the controller pane. > >> On 9/14/2015 9:58 AM, Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] wrote: >> >> Bill, in tightened the wing nut right on top of the pedal, knocking has stopped for now, but don't know if that has affected proper sustain playback. Is there a way to test this? >> >> I don't have a DKV tech, my regular tuner/tech doesn't know DKVs. >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.) >> >> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:56 AM, Bill AOL billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Sam, >>> >>> I am quite sure your Disklavier pedal components need adjustment and calibration. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> iPad >>> >>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages. >>>> >>>> Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually. >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi again Julien, >>>>> >>>>> That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. >>>>> >>>>> If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. >>>>> >>>>> Can you email it direct to me? >>>>> >>>>> bill.brandom03@... >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien >>>>> > > -- > > Best regards, Spencer Chase > 67550-Bell Springs Rd. > Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. > Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. > Spencer@... > http://www.spencerserolls.com > (425) 791-0309 >
2015-09-14 by Spencer Chase
Spencer, not sure what you mean by "proportional". Certainly more than up/down on/off.It Is a MPX100II Mark II DKV.
On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Spencer Chase lists@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
does the DKV in question respond to proportional pedal controllers? i have a program that will send specific controller messages to a MIDI device so you could check calibration this way if you know what pedal controller value corresponds to the damper "brush point" is that a specific number for DKVs? you could also make a file in a sequencer with various pedal controllers. cakewalk lets you draw controllers in the controller pane.
On 9/14/2015 9:58 AM, Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] wrote:
Bill, in tightened the wing nut right on top of the pedal, knocking has stopped for now, but don't know if that has affected proper sustain playback. Is there a way to test this?
I don't have a DKV tech, my regular tuner/tech doesn't know DKVs.
Sam(212) 684-3304
*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:56 AM, Bill AOL billbrando@aol.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Sam,
I am quite sure your Disklavier pedal components need adjustment and calibration.
Bill
iPad
On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@gmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages.
Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi again Julien,
That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L.
If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough.
I hope this makes sense.
Bill
Love God. Love People. Make a difference.
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post.
Can you email it direct to me?
On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550-Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com (425) 791-0309
2015-09-14 by Skanter123
Yes, mine is proportional. Let me do Bill's test first, see what happens. Thanks, Spencer! Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Spencer Chase lists@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > there are several terms for this, proportional, gradual etc. if the piano can place the pedal at positions between full on and full off in response to controller values between 0 and 127 then it is capable of proportional pedaling. i am pretty sure that most DKVs do this. i am not familiar with the various models and their capabilities. > >> On 9/14/2015 10:50 AM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] wrote: >> >> Spencer, not sure what you mean by "proportional". Certainly more than up/down on/off. >> It Is a MPX100II Mark II DKV. >> >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Spencer Chase lists@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> does the DKV in question respond to proportional pedal controllers? i have a program that will send specific controller messages to a MIDI device so you could check calibration this way if you know what pedal controller value corresponds to the damper "brush point" is that a specific number for DKVs? you could also make a file in a sequencer with various pedal controllers. cakewalk lets you draw controllers in the controller pane. >>> >>>> On 9/14/2015 9:58 AM, Sam Kanter skanter123@... [disklavier] wrote: >>>> >>>> Bill, in tightened the wing nut right on top of the pedal, knocking has stopped for now, but don't know if that has affected proper sustain playback. Is there a way to test this? >>>> >>>> I don't have a DKV tech, my regular tuner/tech doesn't know DKVs. >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.) >>>> >>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:56 AM, Bill AOL billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sam, >>>>> >>>>> I am quite sure your Disklavier pedal components need adjustment and calibration. >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> iPad >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill, my DKV sustain pedal sometimes makes a knocking sound sometimes, especially on quiet passages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does not happen when I press pedal with my foot. Can't see anything visually. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam >>>>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi again Julien, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That noise should not be there. Notice the rod in shape of an "L". This piece is only needed when the pedal lyre is removed from the piano. It appears that metal on the black wooden lever is coming down and hitting this L. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the L is not coming out of the keybed at 90 degrees then bend it so it is. If that doesn't give enough clearance when the lever returns to rest, then turn it counter clockwise so the drops lower. You may have to make 1 or 2 360 degree turns to lower it enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this makes sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Julien, for some reason I can't play the video from your post. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you email it direct to me? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bill.brandom03@... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>> Love God. Love People. Make a difference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Julien Roche julien.roche@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See small attached film to see and listen the noise. This piano is new and did that noise from the very first day when you release strongly the main pedal. What do you suggest ? Thank you ! Julien >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best regards, Spencer Chase >>> 67550-Bell Springs Rd. >>> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. >>> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. >>> Spencer@... >>> http://www.spencerserolls.com >>> (425) 791-0309 > > -- > > Best regards, Spencer Chase > 67550-Bell Springs Rd. > Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. > Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. > Spencer@... > http://www.spencerserolls.com > (425) 791-0309 >