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Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

2017-07-23 by james bond

I have a Mark IV.  I would like to transfer solo piano MIDI files direct from a notebook computer to my Disklavier to play.   Chapter 7 [p. 92] of the Advanced Operating Manual "Setting Up The Disklavier for MIDI Data Reception (MIDI IN) advises to install the USB driver to the connected device [in this case, the connected computer is a Lenovo notebook running Windows 10 - 64 bit].
The YAMAHA Disklavier USB driver download to my device was completed and I have connected the USB cable from the USB port from the notebook to the Disklavier I/O center.
I have downloaded several solo piano only MIDI files to my computer that I want have play on the Disklavier.  I now need help in completing the steps necessary to make the piano play direct from the notebook.    The manual goes into detail about selecting channels and I know nothing about that.  I would like some guidance from here before I begin arbitrarily punching buttons and tapping the prc-100 screen.  Any possibilities that some of you may lend some guidance to this tech-novice?   Need to know 1) if I have the proper cable?  2) what initiates the transfer of data? 3) what steps do I take in order to have the files transfered?   
I would like to learn how to construct playlists and be able to have the ability to have numerous files for continuous, uninterrupted playing.  
thanks to all,   
Michael BrauningDover, Ohio

Re: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

2017-07-23 by Carol Beigel

Isn’t there a From/To PC folder on your computer?  That is where you drop the MIDI files to play on your Disklavier.  Make sure you have at least version 4.something  installed.  I believe the From/To folder is part of that installation.

Carol Beigel

RE: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

2017-07-24 by Geoff Ward

Michael

 

I have the same setup – DC3 MkIV and a Windows 10 laptop.  I also use and iPad – more on that later.  

 

I find it best to play midi files from the laptop, rather than by down-loading them to the DKV hard drive.  You get a much improved interface for creating playlists.  Imho, the best software  to run on your Win 10 computer is VanBasco’s Karake Player.  You can download this program for free from the web.  VanBasco looks to the files in your folder tree structure and allows you to very easily create playlists of your choosing.  I connect my laptop and DKV together wirelessly, using an IOGEAR Wireless USB 4 port sharing station - see  https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204  This device plugs into the USB port on the I/O centre of the DKV and connects to a router I have mounted under the piano.  I have created a dedicated WIFI network just between the laptop and the piano-mounted router.  Make sure you select the correct midi input in the setup screen of the DKV ie, USB in this case.  There could now be better hardware solutions than what I am using.


I also use  an iPad Pro with the Sweetmidi app to play midi files saved onto the iPad.  This is a very nice solution as well.  I connect wirelessly to the DKV using a Yamaha Bluetooth MD-BT01 wireless midi adapter.  This device plugs into the MIDI ports of the DKV -need to change the DKV Midi input setting to MIDI.  To run this Bluetooth device, you will need a modern laptop which supports the Bluetooth Low Energy protocol (BLE).  My laptop won’t connect to the Yamaha Bluetooth device, but my iPad will and so will my partner’s newer Windows 10 laptop.


Hope this helps.


Kind regards


Geoff
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Sent: Monday, 24 July 2017 5:17 AM
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Subject: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

 

  

I have a Mark IV.  I would like to transfer solo piano MIDI files direct from a notebook computer to my Disklavier to play.   Chapter 7 [p. 92] of the Advanced Operating Manual "Setting Up The Disklavier for MIDI Data Reception (MIDI IN) advises to install the USB driver to the connected device [in this case, the connected computer is a Lenovo notebook running Windows 10 - 64 bit].

 

The YAMAHA Disklavier USB driver download to my device was completed and I have connected the USB cable from the USB port from the notebook to the Disklavier I/O center.

 

I have downloaded several solo piano only MIDI files to my computer that I want have play on the Disklavier.  I now need help in completing the steps necessary to make the piano play direct from the notebook.    The manual goes into detail about selecting channels and I know nothing about that.  I would like some guidance from here before I begin arbitrarily punching buttons and tapping the prc-100 screen.  Any possibilities that some of you may lend some guidance to this tech-novice?   Need to know 1) if I have the proper cable?  2) what initiates the transfer of data? 3) what steps do I take in order to have the files transfered?   

 

I would like to learn how to construct playlists and be able to have the ability to have numerous files for continuous, uninterrupted playing.  

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thanks to all,   

 

Michael Brauning

Dover, Ohio

Re: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

2017-07-24 by George F. Litterst

Good morning, everyone.

Geoff, I am interested in your use of the Wireless USB Hub. The specs suggest that it connects to the computer over wi-fi. However, to work with a MIDI app, it seems to me that the device must be recognized by the computer as a USB device. Does it require special computer software to run?

BTW, you might be able to avoid the “dance,” changing your Disklavier’s settings back and forth between MIDI and USB if you get this MIDI interface which bridges USB MIDI and DIN MIDI:

https://www.iconnectivity.com/products/midi/mio4 <https://www.iconnectivity.com/products/midi/mio4>

Regards,
PianoBench
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> On Jul 23, 2017, at 8:31 PM, 'Geoff Ward' gward1211@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Michael
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> I have the same setup – DC3 MkIV and a Windows 10 laptop.  I also use and iPad – more on that later.  
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> I find it best to play midi files from the laptop, rather than by down-loading them to the DKV hard drive.  You get a much improved interface for creating playlists.  Imho, the best software  to run on your Win 10 computer is VanBasco’s Karake Player.  You can download this program for free from the web.  VanBasco looks to the files in your folder tree structure and allows you to very easily create playlists of your choosing.  I connect my laptop and DKV together wirelessly, using an IOGEAR Wireless USB 4 port sharing station - see  https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204 <https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204>  This device plugs into the USB port on the I/O centre of the DKV and connects to a router I have mounted under the piano.  I have created a dedicated WIFI network just between the laptop and the piano-mounted router.  Make sure you select the correct midi input in the setup screen of the DKV ie, USB in this case.  There could now be better hardware solutions than what I am using.
> 
> I also use  an iPad Pro with the Sweetmidi app to play midi files saved onto the iPad.  This is a very nice solution as well.  I connect wirelessly to the DKV using a Yamaha Bluetooth MD-BT01 wireless midi adapter.  This device plugs into the MIDI ports of the DKV -need to change the DKV Midi input setting to MIDI.  To run this Bluetooth device, you will need a modern laptop which supports the Bluetooth Low Energy protocol (BLE).  My laptop won’t connect to the Yamaha Bluetooth device, but my iPad will and so will my partner’s newer Windows 10 laptop.
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> Hope this helps.
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> Kind regards
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> Geoff
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> From: disklavier@...m <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>] 
> Sent: Monday, 24 July 2017 5:17 AM
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV
> 
>  
> 
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> 
> I have a Mark IV.  I would like to transfer solo piano MIDI files direct from a notebook computer to my Disklavier to play.   Chapter 7 [p. 92] of the Advanced Operating Manual "Setting Up The Disklavier for MIDI Data Reception (MIDI IN) advises to install the USB driver to the connected device [in this case, the connected computer is a Lenovo notebook running Windows 10 - 64 bit].
> 
>  
> 
> The YAMAHA Disklavier USB driver download to my device was completed and I have connected the USB cable from the USB port from the notebook to the Disklavier I/O center.
> 
>  
> 
> I have downloaded several solo piano only MIDI files to my computer that I want have play on the Disklavier.  I now need help in completing the steps necessary to make the piano play direct from the notebook.    The manual goes into detail about selecting channels and I know nothing about that.  I would like some guidance from here before I begin arbitrarily punching buttons and tapping the prc-100 screen.  Any possibilities that some of you may lend some guidance to this tech-novice?   Need to know 1) if I have the proper cable?  2) what initiates the transfer of data? 3) what steps do I take in order to have the files transfered?   
> 
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> I would like to learn how to construct playlists and be able to have the ability to have numerous files for continuous, uninterrupted playing.  
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> thanks to all,   
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> Michael Brauning
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> Dover, Ohio
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RE: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

2017-07-24 by Geoff Ward

Hi George,

I’ll come back to you in a few days.  I wish to see if I can get it to work satisfactorily without using the router and just connect via my normal wifi network.  I recall that I set up the dedicated network because I was having interference problems on my main wifi network – pauses in playing.  But I have since installed a better main wifi router so that might solve that problem.  I have some other urgent matters to attend to over the next few days so can’t do it just yet.

 

Kind regards

 

Geoff
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, 24 July 2017 10:49 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

 

  

Good morning, everyone.

 

Geoff, I am interested in your use of the Wireless USB Hub. The specs suggest that it connects to the computer over wi-fi. However, to work with a MIDI app, it seems to me that the device must be recognized by the computer as a USB device. Does it require special computer software to run?

 

BTW, you might be able to avoid the “dance,” changing your Disklavier’s settings back and forth between MIDI and USB if you get this MIDI interface which bridges USB MIDI and DIN MIDI:

 

https://www.iconnectivity.com/products/midi/mio4

 

Regards,

PianoBench

 

 

On Jul 23, 2017, at 8:31 PM, 'Geoff Ward' gward1211@... <mailto:gward1211@...>  [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

 

 

Michael

 

I have the same setup – DC3 MkIV and a Windows 10 laptop.  I also use and iPad – more on that later.  

 

I find it best to play midi files from the laptop, rather than by down-loading them to the DKV hard drive.  You get a much improved interface for creating playlists.  Imho, the best software  to run on your Win 10 computer is VanBasco’s Karake Player.  You can download this program for free from the web.  VanBasco looks to the files in your folder tree structure and allows you to very easily create playlists of your choosing.  I connect my laptop and DKV together wirelessly, using an IOGEAR Wireless USB 4 port sharing station - see   <https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204> https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204  This device plugs into the USB port on the I/O centre of the DKV and connects to a router I have mounted under the piano.  I have created a dedicated WIFI network just between the laptop and the piano-mounted router.  Make sure you select the correct midi input in the setup screen of the DKV ie, USB in this case.  There could now be better hardware solutions than what I am using.


I also use  an iPad Pro with the Sweetmidi app to play midi files saved onto the iPad.  This is a very nice solution as well.  I connect wirelessly to the DKV using a Yamaha Bluetooth MD-BT01 wireless midi adapter.  This device plugs into the MIDI ports of the DKV -need to change the DKV Midi input setting to MIDI.  To run this Bluetooth device, you will need a modern laptop which supports the Bluetooth Low Energy protocol (BLE).  My laptop won’t connect to the Yamaha Bluetooth device, but my iPad will and so will my partner’s newer Windows 10 laptop.


Hope this helps.


Kind regards


Geoff


 


 

 

From:  <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> disklavier@yahoogroups.com [ <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, 24 July 2017 5:17 AM
To:  <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

 

  

I have a Mark IV.  I would like to transfer solo piano MIDI files direct from a notebook computer to my Disklavier to play.   Chapter 7 [p. 92] of the Advanced Operating Manual "Setting Up The Disklavier for MIDI Data Reception (MIDI IN) advises to install the USB driver to the connected device [in this case, the connected computer is a Lenovo notebook running Windows 10 - 64 bit].

 

The YAMAHA Disklavier USB driver download to my device was completed and I have connected the USB cable from the USB port from the notebook to the Disklavier I/O center.

 

I have downloaded several solo piano only MIDI files to my computer that I want have play on the Disklavier.  I now need help in completing the steps necessary to make the piano play direct from the notebook.    The manual goes into detail about selecting channels and I know nothing about that.  I would like some guidance from here before I begin arbitrarily punching buttons and tapping the prc-100 screen.  Any possibilities that some of you may lend some guidance to this tech-novice?   Need to know 1) if I have the proper cable?  2) what initiates the transfer of data? 3) what steps do I take in order to have the files transfered?   

 

I would like to learn how to construct playlists and be able to have the ability to have numerous files for continuous, uninterrupted playing.  

< div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500834871425_5561" dir="ltr">

thanks to all,   

 

Michael Brauning

Dover, Ohio

RE: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

2017-08-02 by Geoff Ward

Hello George

 

Sorry for the delay in replying.  I have attached a diagram of my setup.  It is necessary to have a WIFI network to connect the Windows laptop to the Wireless USB port sharing station.  The laptop apparently can’t be directly wirelessly connected to the USB port sharing station.  The USB wireless port sharing station comes with software to be installed on the Windows laptop.  The Yamaha USB driver is also installed on the laptop.  When you open up the IOGear software, it finds the DKV and all you do is press the connect button and, voila, the laptop midi plays the piano.

 

I previously mentioned that I had set up a dedicated WIFI network between the laptop and a piano-mounted router because I was having interference problems on my main wifi network – pauses in playing and consequent bunching of notes – but only very occasionally.  I have now gotten rid of the router and have the USB port sharing station connected to a network extender that I had also previously mounted under the piano to enable the DKV to connect to the internet.  This amounts to cascaded network extenders, which apparently is not recommended – but it works.

 

The current setup, per the diagram,  seems to be working just as well as the previous dedicated network – ie, still an occasional glitch.  The Linksys network extender (see diagram) seems to be a better unit than the Netgear network extender (which is now some years old) so I might eventually invest in a second Linksys network extender to see if that solves the problem of occasional glitches.  I haven’t abandoned the dedicated network just yet, as I need a room full of people and their phone devices to see if any interference is caused to my WIFI network.  I can certainly cause it to have heart palpitations if I run a couple of sessions of speedtest.net on other network-connected computers at the same time as playing the DKV from the laptop.

 

I am investigating the Mio4 that you gave me a link to, so that I might avoid the settings “dance”.  Have you used one of these devices for that purpose?  I am awaiting a response to a couple of questions from iConnectivity tech support, before buying one of these units.

 

I hope that this is of some help to you and others.

 

Kind regards

 

Geoff Ward
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, 24 July 2017 10:49 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

 

  

Good morning, everyone.

 

Geoff, I am interested in your use of the Wireless USB Hub. The specs suggest that it connects to the computer over wi-fi. However, to work with a MIDI app, it seems to me that the device must be recognized by the computer as a USB device. Does it require special computer software to run?

 

BTW, you might be able to avoid the “dance,” changing your Disklavier’s settings back and forth between MIDI and USB if you get this MIDI interface which bridges USB MIDI and DIN MIDI:

 

https://www.iconnectivity.com/products/midi/mio4

 

Regards,

PianoBench

 

 

On Jul 23, 2017, at 8:31 PM, 'Geoff Ward' gward1211@... <mailto:gward1211@...>  [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

 

 

Michael

 I have the same setup – DC3 MkIV and a Windows 10 laptop.  I also use and iPad – more on that later.  

 I find it best to play midi files from the laptop, rather than by down-loading them to the DKV hard drive.  You get a much improved interface for creating playlists.  Imho, the best software  to run on your Win 10 computer is VanBasco’s Karake Player.  You can download this program for free from the web.  VanBasco looks to the files in your folder tree structure and allows you to very easily create playlists of your choosing.  I connect my laptop and DKV together wirelessly, using an IOGEAR Wireless USB 4 port sharing station - see   <https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204> https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204  This device plugs into the USB port on the I/O centre of the DKV and connects to a router I have mounted under the piano.  I have created a dedicated WIFI network just between the laptop and the piano-mounted router.  Make sure you select the correct midi input in the setup screen of the DKV ie, USB in this case.  There could now be better hardware solutions than what I am using.


I also use  an iPad Pro with the Sweetmidi app to play midi files saved onto the iPad.  This is a very nice solution as well.  I connect wirelessly to the DKV using a Yamaha Bluetooth MD-BT01 wireless midi adapter.  This device plugs into the MIDI ports of the DKV -need to change the DKV Midi input setting to MIDI.  To run this Bluetooth device, you will need a modern laptop which supports the Bluetooth Low Energy protocol (BLE).  My laptop won’t connect to the Yamaha Bluetooth device, but my iPad will and so will my partner’s newer Windows 10 laptop.


Hope this helps.


Kind regards


Geoff


 


 

 

From:  <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> disklavier@yahoogroups.com [ <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, 24 July 2017 5:17 AM
To:  <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

 

  

I have a Mark IV.  I would like to transfer solo piano MIDI files direct from a notebook computer to my Disklavier to play.   Chapter 7 [p. 92] of the Advanced Operating Manual "Setting Up The Disklavier for MIDI Data Reception (MIDI IN) advises to install the USB driver to the connected device [in this case, the connected computer is a Lenovo notebook running Windows 10 - 64 bit].

 

The YAMAHA Disklavier USB driver download to my device was completed and I have connected the USB cable from the USB port from the notebook to the Disklavier I/O center.

 

I have downloaded several solo piano only MIDI files to my computer that I want have play on the Disklavier.  I now need help in completing the steps necessary to make the piano play direct from the notebook.    The manual goes into detail about selecting channels and I know nothing about that.  I would like some guidance from here before I begin arbitrarily punching buttons and tapping the prc-100 screen.  Any possibilities that some of you may lend some guidance to this tech-novice?   Need to know 1) if I have the proper cable?  2) what initiates the transfer of data? 3) what steps do I take in order to have the files transfered?   

 

I would like to learn how to construct playlists and be able to have the ability to have numerous files for continuous, uninterrupted playing.  

< div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500834871425_5561" dir="ltr">

thanks to all,   

 

Michael Brauning

Dover, Ohio

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Re: Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

2017-08-10 by gward1211@...

Hello George
Just to follow up from the last paragraph of my previous posting, I am unable to use the Mio4 to avoid the MIDI settings "dance" on the DKV because the Mio4 does not provide power at the MIDI out connector. The Yamaha bluetooth MIDI device requires power from the MIDI out socket and there is no other way to power it.
Kind regards

Geoff Ward

Re: [disklavier] Downloading MIDI files from computer to Mark IV

2017-08-10 by George F. Litterst

Good morning, everyone.

Geoff, I apologize for leading you astray on this possible solution. However, I have something additional to propose. First, some background:

I don’t have the Mio4, and it did not occur to me to question whether it produces power on the MIDI ports. After all, the interface, itself, has connectors for USB-supplied power as well as an external power supply. I presume that you have tried supplying power with both.

I have the very first interface from iConnectivity, and it has similar functionality. In my case, I have MIDI cables that run from the computer in my studio behind baseboards to my piano which is 30 feet away. Those cables connect to one pair of MIDI ports on my iConnectivity interface.

I also have a USB cable with an iOS USB adapter connected to the interface. This enables me to plug directly into an iPad at the piano when I want to work with MIDI software, such as SuperScore or Home Concert Xtreme. If I wish to use the Disklavier with my Mac laptop instead (running either HCX or Internet MIDI), I use the other USB output on the iConnectivity to connect to my Mac.

The interface itself connects to the piano via USB, and thus I can avoid the switching the Disklavier’s MIDI settings between USB and MIDI—and I get to enjoy connectivity to my iMac 30 feet away, my iPad at the piano, and my laptop at the piano.

As you can see, in my setup, I did not need BT MIDI. BT MIDI requires you to re-establish the connection each time you power up. In my situation, I avoid that issue as well.

Based on your report, I did go ahead and connect the MD-BT01 to my iConnectivity interface and discovered that mine, too, does not provide power. 

Then, I dug out an old device from my MIDI closet called the Anatek Power Pack. It’s a nifty little box about the size of a pack of cigarettes that adds power to the MIDI chain. I was able to connect MIDI out from the DKC-850 to the Power Pack and then the Power Pack MIDI out to the MD-BT01. That was sufficient to power the MD-BT01 in both directions and everything works great.

Anatek is no longer in business, but you can get a similar product from MIDI Solutions:

http://www.midisolutions.com/prodpwr.htm

The size and specs on the MIDI Solutions Power Adapter look identical. Apparently it comes both with and without a wall adapter.

I hate to send you down another rabbit hole, but you might find that this nifty box completes your solution.

In my own situation, I cannot avoid trips to the MIDI Settings area of the DKC-850. The reason is that I need to alternate between turning off and on the MIDI In Delay.

When I am playing MIDI recordings, I typically want the delay turned on. When I am playing the piano myself with accompaniments that follow me or when using Internet MIDI, I need the delay to be turned off. Of course it is a nuisance to have to switch between those settings. I generally leave that settings screen active so that I can go back and forth without pressing extra buttons.

Regards,
PianoBench 
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> On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:01 AM, gward1211@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hello George
> Just to follow up from the last paragraph of my previous posting, I am unable to use the Mio4 to avoid the MIDI settings "dance" on the DKV because the Mio4 does not provide power at the MIDI out connector.  The Yamaha bluetooth MIDI device requires power from the MIDI out socket and there is no other way to power it.
> Kind regards
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> Geoff Ward
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