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Hi Everyone-

Second try on this question: Does anyone have any experience
playing PianoDisc recordings on a Disklavier?

Thanks.

Gary

I bought about $400 of Piano Discs titles for my DC6A disklavier
over Christmas holiday direct from the vendor in Sacramento
(Internet sales).

*Very* nice people, but I found the dynamics lacking overall in
the players' skills.

I am a musician so it is not an unpolished ear that is being
critical here ... I bought pop, classical and jazz ... and found
they didn't hold up well against PG Music or Yamaha titles.

--Aaron  in San Francisco



                                                                                                                   
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Hi Everyone-

Second try on this question: Does anyone have any experience
playing PianoDisc recordings on a Disklavier?

Thanks.

Gary


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--- In disklavier@y..., "gary_schaps" <gschaps@a...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone-
> 
> Second try on this question: Does anyone have any experience
> playing PianoDisc recordings on a Disklavier?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Gary

I recently bought a couple to evaluate from QRS. One in the 40* 
(original artist, Ferrante/Teicher, Roger Williams) series, and one 
in the 80* series (Russell Messina). I did not find their production 
as high quality as Yamaha's and they did appear to have less dynamic 
control or representation.
 
Gene

PianoDisc recordings should work on a Disklavier.  However, those files are 
in MIDI 0 format.  That means that if you have an older DKV model that only 
plays Eseq format, you need to convert these PianoDisc files first.

Carol Beigel


>From: "gary_schaps" <gschaps@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] Piano Disc Music Library
>Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:35:07 -0000
>
>Hi Everyone-
>
>Second try on this question: Does anyone have any experience
>playing PianoDisc recordings on a Disklavier?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Gary
>


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Hi

Sorry to ask, but are we talking about Piano Discs CDs or Piano Disks 
floppies?

Midi Magic



--- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote:
> PianoDisc recordings should work on a Disklavier.  However, those 
files are 
> in MIDI 0 format.  That means that if you have an older DKV model 
that only 

> plays Eseq format, you need to convert these PianoDisc files first.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> 
> >From: "gary_schaps" <gschaps@a...>
> >Reply-To: disklavier@y...
> >To: disklavier@y...
> >Subject: [disklavier] Piano Disc Music Library
> >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:35:07 -0000
> >
> >Hi Everyone-
> >
> >Second try on this question: Does anyone have any experience
> >playing PianoDisc recordings on a Disklavier?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Gary
> >
> 
> 
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Good question!  I was referring to floppy disks.  I think the CDs work also, 
but the audio and midi are on different channels than the Yamaha disks.  One 
has audio on the Right, and MIDI information on the left; and the other is 
just the opposite.  I know for sure that the QRS cd's work on the Mark II 
Disklaviers with the Midiman conversion box, but I have never tried the 
PianoDisc CDs.

On the Mark III DKVs with the built in CD player, I doubt that PianoDisc CDs 
play the audio as well as the MIDI.  But then again, I have not tried them.

I don't think anyone has figured out a way to take files off the CDs, 
whether they are Yamaha, QRS or PianoDisc, and convert or edit them.  If so, 
I would certainly like to know how the MIDI track was separated from the 
audio track.  That's the reason I think the floppies are more useful than 
CDs.  I didn't buy my Disklavier to listen to people singing, but that's 
just my own preference.

Carol Beigel


>From: "midi_magic2000" <magic_midi@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] Re: Piano Disc Music Library
>Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 08:10:17 -0000
>
>Hi
>
>Sorry to ask, but are we talking about Piano Discs CDs or Piano Disks
>floppies?
>
>Midi Magic
>
>
>
>--- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote:
> > PianoDisc recordings should work on a Disklavier.  However, those
>files are
> > in MIDI 0 format.  That means that if you have an older DKV model
>that only
> > plays Eseq format, you need to convert these PianoDisc files first.
> >
> > Carol Beigel
> >
> >
> > >From: "gary_schaps" <gschaps@a...>
> > >Reply-To: disklavier@y...
> > >To: disklavier@y...
> > >Subject: [disklavier] Piano Disc Music Library
> > >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:35:07 -0000
> > >
> > >Hi Everyone-
> > >
> > >Second try on this question: Does anyone have any experience
> > >playing PianoDisc recordings on a Disklavier?
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >Gary
> > >
> >
> >
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Good morning, everyone.

In a message dated 4/13/02 10:12:07 PM, Carol writes:

<< I think the CDs work also, 
but the audio and midi are on different channels than the Yamaha disks.  One 
has audio on the Right, and MIDI information on the left; and the other is 
just the opposite.  I know for sure that the QRS cd's work on the Mark II 
Disklaviers with the Midiman conversion box, but I have never tried the 
PianoDisc CDs.>>

To the best of my knowledge, the Mark III and the DCD1 play all other current 
formats of CD audio + MIDI regardless of which part is on which channel. The 
reverse is not true; the other systems will not play Yamaha CDs.

The Yamaha CD system goes well beyond the capability of the other systems by 
offering full, 16-channel, MIDI with the complete spectrum of note 
velocities. In other words, the MIDI data is much higher resolution on the 
Yamaha system.

<<I don't think anyone has figured out a way to take files off the CDs, 
whether they are Yamaha, QRS or PianoDisc, and convert or edit them.  If so, 
I would certainly like to know how the MIDI track was separated from the 
audio track.  That's the reason I think the floppies are more useful than 
CDs.  I didn't buy my Disklavier to listen to people singing, but that's 
just my own preference. >>

I don't have a Mark III on which to try this, but I would be surprised if you 
could not capture the MIDI data of the piano part in real time using a 
computer or external sequencer. (You could certain do this with the DCD1 
because it connects to the Disklavier with MIDI cables.)

On a Mark III, try setting MIDI Out=ESBL Out and PianoPart ESBL Out=On and 
see if the MIDI data comes shooting out the MIDI Out port.

Regards,
PianoBench