Disklavier

David,

I believe I'd phone the dealer to confirm "DGH1PE".  If there is such a 
thing, I'd insist on seeing a catalog page, spec sheet, or instruction 
book describing it.  A reputable dealer should not have let you out of 
the store without a clear description of what you are buying.  You 
certainly are not obligated to accept an instrument described as "sorta 
like something else."

Personally, I like the idea of getting an instrument fresh out of the 
crate, as this one seems to be.  However, I would ask for the serial 
number and the year it was built.  (With the S/N, you can, if needed, 
find out for yourself when it was built.)   If this one turns out to be 
a few years old and hasn't moved, and it's truly what you want, I'd 
negotiate on the price.

I hope you shopped around at several dealers around the country.  It's 
surely not too late to do so.  By letting dealers know that they are 
bidding against each other, you might even be surprised to find what you 
can get a DC1A for.

Good luck!

david lasley wrote:

> Hello group members.  Last weekend my wife and I bit the bullet and 
> purchased a new 5'3" Disklavier Mark III full function grand.  It is 
> scheduled for delivery later this week.  The floor models we viewed at 
> the local dealer were the 5'3" DGH1BXG playback and the DC1A Full 
> function.  Although the DC1A was impressive we couldn't justify the 
> additional cost for the conservatory model and we wanted the full 
> function disklavier the playback model didn't have.  Our dealer told us 
> he had a middle model at his warehouse that would meet our needs...a 
> model DGH1PE.  He explained it was a home use model similar to the 
> DGH1BXG yet had a support bar on the lid and a full function 
> disklavier.  Satisfied, we accepted his middle model price.  After 
> searching later on the internet including Yamaha's website, we are 
> unable to find any info. about a model DGH1PE piano.  Not that we don't 
> trust the dealer, but is anyone aware of this particular model and able 
> to offer us any insight and comfort on our purchase?  Any info. would be 
> appreciated.
> 
> thanks
> 
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Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

I recently got a DC2A from a dealer in Canada that was several 
thousands less than any local dealer for the same piano.  The price 
for the this piano, which is the 5'8'' size, delivered, was 19.8K.  
We have had it for 3 months and love it.  The best price we got in 
the US was 26K plus tax, plus, delivery, plus set-up.

--- In disklavier@y..., "david lasley" <tdlasley@b...> wrote:
> Robert-
> I'm going to do just that in the AM.  Your advice well received.  
Thanks.  I just wanted to get a little more third party input before 
confronting him.  As far as the price goes, I have a price guarantee 
that if I can find it cheaper from any other dealer within 30 days of 
purchase, I get the difference plus 10%.  I'm paying $20K for the 
DGH1PE full function.  The DC1A full function was $25.3K and the 
DGH1BXG playback $18.5.  If you know of better pricing, I'm all ears.
> david
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Robert Welcyng 
>   To: disklavier@y... 
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:11 PM
>   Subject: Re: [disklavier] DGH1PE
> 
> 
>   David,
> 
>   I believe I'd phone the dealer to confirm "DGH1PE".  If there is 
such a 
>   thing, I'd insist on seeing a catalog page, spec sheet, or 
instruction 
>   book describing it.  A reputable dealer should not have let you 
out of 
>   the store without a clear description of what you are buying.  
You 
>   certainly are not obligated to accept an instrument described 
as "sorta 
>   like something else."
> 
>   Personally, I like the idea of getting an instrument fresh out of 
the 
>   crate, as this one seems to be.  However, I would ask for the 
serial 
>   number and the year it was built.  (With the S/N, you can, if 
needed, 
>   find out for yourself when it was built.)   If this one turns out 
to be 
>   a few years old and hasn't moved, and it's truly what you want, 
I'd 
>   negotiate on the price.
> 
>   I hope you shopped around at several dealers around the country.  
It's 
>   surely not too late to do so.  By letting dealers know that they 
are 
>   bidding against each other, you might even be surprised to find 
what you 
>   can get a DC1A for.
> 
>   Good luck!
> 
>   david lasley wrote:
> 
>   > Hello group members.  Last weekend my wife and I bit the bullet 
and 
>   > purchased a new 5'3" Disklavier Mark III full function grand.  
It is 
>   > scheduled for delivery later this week.  The floor models we 
viewed at 
>   > the local dealer were the 5'3" DGH1BXG playback and the DC1A 
Full 
>   > function.  Although the DC1A was impressive we couldn't justify 
the 
>   > additional cost for the conservatory model and we wanted the 
full 
>   > function disklavier the playback model didn't have.  Our dealer 
told us 
>   > he had a middle model at his warehouse that would meet our 
needs...a 
>   > model DGH1PE.  He explained it was a home use model similar to 
the 
>   > DGH1BXG yet had a support bar on the lid and a full function 
>   > disklavier.  Satisfied, we accepted his middle model price.  
After 
>   > searching later on the internet including Yamaha's website, we 
are 
>   > unable to find any info. about a model DGH1PE piano.  Not that 
we don't 
>   > trust the dealer, but is anyone aware of this particular model 
and able 
>   > to offer us any insight and comfort on our purchase?  Any info. 
would be 
>   > appreciated.
>   > 
>   > thanks
>   > 
>   > 
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>   > 
>   > To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@Y...
>   > 
>   > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder 
and 
>   > moderator, send it to:
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>   > 
>   > To reach our group's web site go to:
>   > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>   > 
>   > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 
and 
>   > contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites 
among other 
>   > things, The url is:
>   > http://MuncyFamily.com
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>   Robert Welcyng
>   Anchorage, Alaska
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> 
>   To reach our group's web site go to:
>   http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
>   Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and 
contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among 
other things, The url is:
>   http://MuncyFamily.com
> 
>   THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>   If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option 
instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to 
the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email 
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The dealer is located at:

http://www.keyboardcentre.com/Our_Locations.htm

Burlington location.

Point of contact:  Mr. Steve Loates

To Consider:

This is a brand new piano made for the North American region (5 World 
regions based on temp and humidity).  Piano is new, in factory crate 
(which is very thick and sturdy cardboard!!!!).  You must unload the 
piano from the truck (weighs 800 lbs, took 5 men about 15 minutes).  
Piano must be uncrated and assembled and tuned, this took 2 hours and 
cost a total of $250).



--- In disklavier@y..., "david lasley" <tdlasley@b...> wrote:
> Robert-
> I'm going to do just that in the AM.  Your advice well received.  
Thanks.  I just wanted to get a little more third party input before 
confronting him.  As far as the price goes, I have a price guarantee 
that if I can find it cheaper from any other dealer within 30 days of 
purchase, I get the difference plus 10%.  I'm paying $20K for the 
DGH1PE full function.  The DC1A full function was $25.3K and the 
DGH1BXG playback $18.5.  If you know of better pricing, I'm all ears.
> david
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Robert Welcyng 
>   To: disklavier@y... 
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:11 PM
>   Subject: Re: [disklavier] DGH1PE
> 
> 
>   David,
> 
>   I believe I'd phone the dealer to confirm "DGH1PE".  If there is 
such a 
>   thing, I'd insist on seeing a catalog page, spec sheet, or 
instruction 
>   book describing it.  A reputable dealer should not have let you 
out of 
>   the store without a clear description of what you are buying.  
You 
>   certainly are not obligated to accept an instrument described 
as "sorta 
>   like something else."
> 
>   Personally, I like the idea of getting an instrument fresh out of 
the 
>   crate, as this one seems to be.  However, I would ask for the 
serial 
>   number and the year it was built.  (With the S/N, you can, if 
needed, 
>   find out for yourself when it was built.)   If this one turns out 
to be 
>   a few years old and hasn't moved, and it's truly what you want, 
I'd 
>   negotiate on the price.
> 
>   I hope you shopped around at several dealers around the country.  
It's 
>   surely not too late to do so.  By letting dealers know that they 
are 
>   bidding against each other, you might even be surprised to find 
what you 
>   can get a DC1A for.
> 
>   Good luck!
> 
>   david lasley wrote:
> 
>   > Hello group members.  Last weekend my wife and I bit the bullet 
and 
>   > purchased a new 5'3" Disklavier Mark III full function grand.  
It is 
>   > scheduled for delivery later this week.  The floor models we 
viewed at 
>   > the local dealer were the 5'3" DGH1BXG playback and the DC1A 
Full 
>   > function.  Although the DC1A was impressive we couldn't justify 
the 
>   > additional cost for the conservatory model and we wanted the 
full 
>   > function disklavier the playback model didn't have.  Our dealer 
told us 
>   > he had a middle model at his warehouse that would meet our 
needs...a 
>   > model DGH1PE.  He explained it was a home use model similar to 
the 
>   > DGH1BXG yet had a support bar on the lid and a full function 
>   > disklavier.  Satisfied, we accepted his middle model price.  
After 
>   > searching later on the internet including Yamaha's website, we 
are 
>   > unable to find any info. about a model DGH1PE piano.  Not that 
we don't 
>   > trust the dealer, but is anyone aware of this particular model 
and able 
>   > to offer us any insight and comfort on our purchase?  Any info. 
would be 
>   > appreciated.
>   > 
>   > thanks
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
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>   > 
>   > 
>   > To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@Y...
>   > 
>   > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder 
and 
>   > moderator, send it to:
>   > disklavier-owner@Y...
>   > 
>   > To reach our group's web site go to:
>   > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>   > 
>   > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 
and 
>   > contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites 
among other 
>   > things, The url is:
>   > http://MuncyFamily.com
>   > 
>   > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>   > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
much 
>   > mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option 
>   > instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your 
access to 
>   > the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank 
email to:
>   > disklavier-unsubscribe@y...
>   > 
>   > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email 
to:
>   > disklavier-subscribe@e... or give them this link:
>   > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
Service 
>   > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
> 
> 
>   -- 
>   Robert Welcyng
>   Anchorage, Alaska
> 
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>        
>        
> 
>   To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@Y...
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>   To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
moderator, send it to:
>   disklavier-owner@Y...
> 
>   To reach our group's web site go to:
>   http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
>   Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and 
contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among 
other things, The url is:
>   http://MuncyFamily.com
> 
>   THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>   If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option 
instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to 
the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email 
to:
>   disklavier-unsubscribe@y...
> 
>   Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
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Service.

Good evening, everyone.

In a message dated 5/8/02 7:56:31 PM, David writes:

<< Although we're going to get beat up on the $1K sales tax, we feel the $20K 
purchase price incl. delivery and setup is competitive with other US dealers. 
 >>

Although others may disagree, I think that you are wise to have worked out a 
deal with a local dealer. Delivery, setup (including on-site calibration), a 
local person to call if something goes wrong with the initial delivery or 
setup, and the beginning of a relationship with an accessessible business 
that offers support are all important aspects to your Disklavier purchase. It 
is hard to put a dollar value on these things.

Regards,
PianoBench

The DGH1B PE which is a polished ebony GH1B piano with a Mark III 
Disklavier.  The DC1A is the conservatory model of the same piano.  These 
Mark III pianos come with Smart Key, Silent mode and a CD rom player 
attached to the control box.  The old model was a GH1BIIXG play only model.  
The big difference, besides the price, is the sound of the pianos.  The GH1B 
piano sounds brashier and the scale is not as clean in the C4-C3, B3-B2, 
A#3-A#2 octaves.  The Disklaviers are identical.

Carol Beigel


>From: "david lasley" <tdlasley@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [disklavier] DGH1PE
>Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:08:04 -0400
>
>Hello group members.  Last weekend my wife and I bit the bullet and 
>purchased a new 5'3" Disklavier Mark III full function grand.  It is 
>scheduled for delivery later this week.  The floor models we viewed at the 
>local dealer were the 5'3" DGH1BXG playback and the DC1A Full function.  
>Although the DC1A was impressive we couldn't justify the additional cost 
>for the conservatory model and we wanted the full function disklavier the 
>playback model didn't have.  Our dealer told us he had a middle model at 
>his warehouse that would meet our needs...a model DGH1PE.  He explained it 
>was a home use model similar to the DGH1BXG yet had a support bar on the 
>lid and a full function disklavier.  Satisfied, we accepted his middle 
>model price.  After searching later on the internet including Yamaha's 
>website, we are unable to find any info. about a model DGH1PE piano.  Not 
>that we don't trust the dealer, but is anyone aware of this particular 
>model and able to offer us any insight and comfort on our purchase?  Any 
>info. would be appreciated.
>thanks


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