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2002-07-09 by choton007
Hi, i have downloaded some of the piano competition midi files to my Mac and have tried making floppies for the disklavier, but they won't play. comes up as "unformatted disk." I have tried formatting the disks as Mac 800k, proDOS 800k, and proDOS720k. None of these work. Am I missing something? Thanks! Tony
2002-07-09 by PianoBench@aol.com
Good evening, everyone. In a message dated 7/9/02 6:54:03 PM, Tony writes: << Hi, i have downloaded some of the piano competition midi files to my Mac and have tried making floppies for the disklavier, but they won't play. comes up as "unformatted disk." I have tried formatting the disks as Mac 800k, proDOS 800k, and proDOS720k. None of these work. Am I missing something? >> The DOS720K format is correct, however, your Disklavier does not play Standard MIDI Files. Your instrument was designed before SMFs became the standard that they are today. Your alternatives are to: (1) Add a DSR1 to your Disklavier. This will give you support for SMFs, file translation capabilities, an internal tone generator, and support for high density disks. (2) Play these files from your computer which you have appropriately connected to your Disklavier with MIDI cables. (3) Translate the files to E-SEQ using either a DOS (non-Mac) program that was written for this purpose or using a DSR1 or modern Disklavier control unit . Although the DSR1 is expensive, it will provide you with the most convenient solution for this type of problem going into the future. Regards, PianoBench
2002-07-10 by Debra Keyser
----- Original Message -----From: PianoBench@...Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:31 PMSubject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi filesGood evening, everyone.
In a message dated 7/9/02 6:54:03 PM, Tony writes:
<< Hi, i have downloaded some of the piano competition midi files
to my Mac and have tried making floppies for the disklavier, but
they won't play. comes up as "unformatted disk." I have tried
formatting the disks as Mac 800k, proDOS 800k, and
proDOS720k. None of these work. Am I missing something? >>
The DOS720K format is correct, however, your Disklavier does not play
Standard MIDI Files. Your instrument was designed before SMFs became the
standard that they are today.
Your alternatives are to:
(1) Add a DSR1 to your Disklavier. This will give you support for SMFs, file
translation capabilities, an internal tone generator, and support for high
density disks.
(2) Play these files from your computer which you have appropriately
connected to your Disklavier with MIDI cables.
(3) Translate the files to E-SEQ using either a DOS (non-Mac) program that
was written for this purpose or using a DSR1 or modern Disklavier control unit
.
Although the DSR1 is expensive, it will provide you with the most convenient
solution for this type of problem going into the future.
Regards,
PianoBench
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2002-07-10 by Robert Welcyng
Buying a DSR1 may not solve all of your problems in properly playing the e-competition files. While Yamaha was most generous in publicly offering downloads of these MIDI files, the files themselves really need some work to reproduce as they were performed--at least on my Mark II Disklavier. The first issue is the sustain pedal commands. They are directed to MIDI channel 1--and, in a few files, to both channels 1 and 2. At best, the reproduction will be on/off, rather than continuous, pedal action. Fortunately, the continuous pedal data do reside within the files. If the pedal data are re-directed to MIDI channel 3, you will obtain the continuous sustain pedal action so artfully applied by the performers. The second issue is the glut of useless data in the files. In addition to a duplicate set of pedal data found in some files, mentioned above, the files also contain key aftertouch data for which a Mark II Disklavier, anyway, has no use. While my Disklavier does not noticeably choke on this load of extra unusable data, the processor must handle every bit of it along with the useful data. Conceivably, reproduction accuracy may be suffering. The files, as downloaded, are 50% to 75% larger than they would be without the useless data. I advise stripping the files of the unneeded data. Bob Welcyng PianoBench@... wrote: > Good evening, everyone. > > In a message dated 7/9/02 6:54:03 PM, Tony writes: > > << Hi, i have downloaded some of the piano competition midi files > to my Mac and have tried making floppies for the disklavier, but > they won't play. comes up as "unformatted disk." I have tried > formatting the disks as Mac 800k, proDOS 800k, and > proDOS720k. None of these work. Am I missing something? >> > > The DOS720K format is correct, however, your Disklavier does not play > Standard MIDI Files. Your instrument was designed before SMFs became the > standard that they are today. > > Your alternatives are to: > > (1) Add a DSR1 to your Disklavier. This will give you support for SMFs, file > translation capabilities, an internal tone generator, and support for high > density disks. > > (2) Play these files from your computer which you have appropriately > connected to your Disklavier with MIDI cables. > > (3) Translate the files to E-SEQ using either a DOS (non-Mac) program that > was written for this purpose or using a DSR1 or modern Disklavier control unit > . > > Although the DSR1 is expensive, it will provide you with the most convenient > solution for this type of problem going into the future. > > Regards, > PianoBench > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > -- Robert Welcyng Anchorage, Alaska
2002-07-10 by Carol Beigel
You must have the MX100II not the MX100B. Although both pianos are uprights and have the control box built in to the lid, the MX100II has a round knob to adjust the volume and plays SMF format 0 files as well as ESEQ files. The older MX100B only has square buttons on the control box and only plays ESEQ files on double density 720k disks. Carol Beigel >From: "Debra Keyser" <djd7554@...> >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:50:45 -0500 > >Mine plays SMF files. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: PianoBench@... > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:31 PM > Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files > > > Good evening, everyone. > > In a message dated 7/9/02 6:54:03 PM, Tony writes: > > << Hi, i have downloaded some of the piano competition midi files > to my Mac and have tried making floppies for the disklavier, but > they won't play. comes up as "unformatted disk." I have tried > formatting the disks as Mac 800k, proDOS 800k, and > proDOS720k. None of these work. Am I missing something? >> > > The DOS720K format is correct, however, your Disklavier does not play > Standard MIDI Files. Your instrument was designed before SMFs became the > standard that they are today. > > Your alternatives are to: > > (1) Add a DSR1 to your Disklavier. This will give you support for SMFs, >file > translation capabilities, an internal tone generator, and support for >high > density disks. > > (2) Play these files from your computer which you have appropriately > connected to your Disklavier with MIDI cables. > > (3) Translate the files to E-SEQ using either a DOS (non-Mac) program >that > was written for this purpose or using a DSR1 or modern Disklavier >control unit > . > > Although the DSR1 is expensive, it will provide you with the most >convenient > solution for this type of problem going into the future. > > Regards, > PianoBench > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
2002-07-10 by rjtolsma@aol.com
Disks should be formatted as DOS 1.4MB. I've been formatting them this way, and copying the files with no problem. Rich Tolsma
2002-07-10 by Anthony Chou
Hi, no actually it is a MX100B. No round knobs or anything fancy on it... Tony >You must have the MX100II not the MX100B. Although both pianos are >uprights >and have the control box built in to the lid, the MX100II has a round knob >to adjust the volume and plays SMF format 0 files as well as ESEQ files. >The older MX100B only has square buttons on the control box and only plays >ESEQ files on double density 720k disks. > >Carol Beigel _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
2002-07-10 by Debra Keyser
----- Original Message -----From: Carol BeigelSent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:27 PMSubject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi filesYou must have the MX100II not the MX100B. Although both pianos are uprights
and have the control box built in to the lid, the MX100II has a round knob
to adjust the volume and plays SMF format 0 files as well as ESEQ files.
The older MX100B only has square buttons on the control box and only plays
ESEQ files on double density 720k disks.
Carol Beigel
>From: "Debra Keyser"
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files
>Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:50:45 -0500
>
>Mine plays SMF files.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: PianoBench@...
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files
>
>
> Good evening, everyone.
>
> In a message dated 7/9/02 6:54:03 PM, Tony writes:
>
> << Hi, i have downloaded some of the piano competition midi files
> to my Mac and have tried making floppies for the disklavier, but
> they won't play. comes up as "unformatted disk." I have tried
> formatting the disks as Mac 800k, proDOS 800k, and
> proDOS720k. None of these work. Am I missing something? >>
>
> The DOS720K format is correct, however, your Disklavier does not play
> Standard MIDI Files. Your instrument was designed before SMFs became the
> standard that they are today.
>
> Your alternatives are to:
>
> (1) Add a DSR1 to your Disklavier. This will give you support for SMFs,
>file
> translation capabilities, an internal tone generator, and support for
>high
> density disks.
>
> (2) Play these files from your computer which you have appropriately
> connected to your Disklavier with MIDI cables.
>
> (3) Translate the files to E-SEQ using either a DOS (non-Mac) program
>that
> was written for this purpose or using a DSR1 or modern Disklavier
>control unit
> .
>
> Although the DSR1 is expensive, it will provide you with the most
>convenient
> solution for this type of problem going into the future.
>
> Regards,
> PianoBench
>
_________________________________________________________________
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Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is:
http://MuncyFamily.com
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2002-07-10 by Carol Beigel
Then you definitely have a MarkII system that plays SMF format 0 files - unless it is a Wagon Grand (earliest model DKV in a grand that only plays ESEQ files) Carol >From: "Debra Keyser" <djd7554@...> >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:04:03 -0500 > >Mine isn't a upright. Its a Baby Grand. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Beigel > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files > > > You must have the MX100II not the MX100B. Although both pianos are >uprights > and have the control box built in to the lid, the MX100II has a round >knob > to adjust the volume and plays SMF format 0 files as well as ESEQ files. > The older MX100B only has square buttons on the control box and only >plays > ESEQ files on double density 720k disks. > > Carol Beigel > > > >From: "Debra Keyser" <djd7554@...> > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files > >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:50:45 -0500 > > > >Mine plays SMF files. > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world\ufffds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
2002-07-10 by Debra Keyser
Actually it plays both SMF and E-SEQ. The memory disk can be formated either way you need it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files > Then you definitely have a MarkII system that plays SMF format 0 files - > unless it is a Wagon Grand (earliest model DKV in a grand that only plays > ESEQ files) > > Carol > > > >From: "Debra Keyser" <djd7554@...> > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files > >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:04:03 -0500 > > > >Mine isn't a upright. Its a Baby Grand. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carol Beigel > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files > > > > > > You must have the MX100II not the MX100B. Although both pianos are > >uprights > > and have the control box built in to the lid, the MX100II has a round > >knob > > to adjust the volume and plays SMF format 0 files as well as ESEQ files. > > The older MX100B only has square buttons on the control box and only > >plays > > ESEQ files on double density 720k disks. > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > >From: "Debra Keyser" <djd7554@...> > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] MX100B and Midi files > > >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:50:45 -0500 > > > > > >Mine plays SMF files. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
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