Disklavier

Most of the MIDI files that I download off the internet bang the keys 
of the piano very hard when I play them on the Disklavier.  Does 
anyone have any suggestions for how to optimize MIDI files for a 
Disklavier?  Can it be damaging to the piano to play files off the 
internet that cause the keys of the Disklavier to be pressed too 
hardly?

Rob

An easy, quick and dirty solution is to use the veloset program which is
in our dkvutils set of utilities in the files vault on the group site.

 

Todd Muncy

disklavier@...

http://MuncyFamily.com

-----Original Message-----
From: thegorens [mailto:goren@...] 
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 3:29 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Playing downlaoding files

 

Most of the MIDI files that I download off the internet bang the keys 
of the piano very hard when I play them on the Disklavier.  Does 
anyone have any suggestions for how to optimize MIDI files for a 
Disklavier?  Can it be damaging to the piano to play files off the 
internet that cause the keys of the Disklavier to be pressed too 
hardly?

Rob






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In a message dated 11/15/02 4:24:24 PM Central Standard Time, 
disklavier@... writes:

> An easy, quick and dirty solution is to use the veloset program which is in 
> our dkvutils set of utilities in the files vault on the group site.
> 
>   
> 
> Todd Muncy
> 
> 
> 

Todd,

Do you have recommendations as to the maximum and minimum velocities that 
should be set?

John

For a piece with full dynamic range, I recommend bracketing the 
velocities between 22 to 95.  You'll find that most concert pieces on 
solo PianoSoft diskettes keep to about that range.

Bob Welcyng

DrSwiney@... wrote:
> In a message dated 11/15/02 4:24:24 PM Central Standard Time, 
> disklavier@... writes:
> 
>> An easy, quick and dirty solution is to use the veloset program which 
>> is in our dkvutils set of utilities in the files vault on the group site.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Todd Muncy
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Todd,
> 
> Do you have recommendations as to the maximum and minimum velocities 
> that should be set?
> 
> John
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Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

The highest MIDI velocity than can be played has a value of 128. Many MIDI 
files downloaded from the internet were created on an electronic keyboard, 
and yes this can be very damaging to your piano. I find the best range is 
between 60 and 75.

Carol Beigel
crbrpt@...

>From: "thegorens" <goren@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] Playing downlaoding files
>Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:29:18 -0000
>
>Most of the MIDI files that I download off the internet bang the keys
>of the piano very hard when I play them on the Disklavier.  Does
>anyone have any suggestions for how to optimize MIDI files for a
>Disklavier?  Can it be damaging to the piano to play files off the
>internet that cause the keys of the Disklavier to be pressed too
>hardly?
>
>Rob
>


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Thanks,

The information you provided was very helpful.  I knew the veloset 
program existed, but wasn't sure exactly what the velocity was 
supposed to be set too.

Does anybody know of a good basic midi program for making basic 
modifications such as changing what tracks will play on the piano?

Rob

--- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote:
> The highest MIDI velocity than can be played has a value of 128. 
Many MIDI 
> files downloaded from the internet were created on an electronic 
keyboard, 
> and yes this can be very damaging to your piano. I find the best 
range is 
> between 60 and 75.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> crbrpt@b...
> 
> >From: "thegorens" <goren@m...>
> >Reply-To: disklavier@y...
> >To: disklavier@y...
> >Subject: [disklavier] Playing downlaoding files
> >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:29:18 -0000
> >
> >Most of the MIDI files that I download off the internet bang the 
keys

> >of the piano very hard when I play them on the Disklavier.  Does
> >anyone have any suggestions for how to optimize MIDI files for a
> >Disklavier?  Can it be damaging to the piano to play files off the
> >internet that cause the keys of the Disklavier to be pressed too
> >hardly?
> >
> >Rob
> >
> 
> 
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PG Music's Power Tracks is inexpensive and will enable you to edit MIDI 
files.  Various Cakewalk applications will also.  You may also be able 
to find a shareware program.

A slight clarification: MIDI has 128 valid velocity values.  Zero is the 
lowest and means "note off"; 127 is the highest value.

thegorens wrote:
> Thanks,
> 
> The information you provided was very helpful.  I knew the veloset 
> program existed, but wasn't sure exactly what the velocity was 
> supposed to be set too.
> 
> Does anybody know of a good basic midi program for making basic 
> modifications such as changing what tracks will play on the piano?
> 
> Rob
> 
> --- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote:
> 
>>The highest MIDI velocity than can be played has a value of 128. 
> 
> Many MIDI 
> 
>>files downloaded from the internet were created on an electronic 
> 
> keyboard, 
> 
>>and yes this can be very damaging to your piano. I find the best 
> 
> range is 
> 
>>between 60 and 75.
>>
>>Carol Beigel
>>crbrpt@b...
>>
>>
>>>From: "thegorens" <goren@m...>
>>>Reply-To: disklavier@y...
>>>To: disklavier@y...
>>>Subject: [disklavier] Playing downlaoding files
>>>Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:29:18 -0000
>>>
>>>Most of the MIDI files that I download off the internet bang the 
>>
> keys
> 
>>>of the piano very hard when I play them on the Disklavier.  Does
>>>anyone have any suggestions for how to optimize MIDI files for a
>>>Disklavier?  Can it be damaging to the piano to play files off the
>>>internet that cause the keys of the Disklavier to be pressed too
>>>hardly?
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
> 
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
> 
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
> Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com
> 
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
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> 
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-- 
Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

Good morning, everyone.

In a message dated 11/15/02 3:32:19 PM, Rob writes:

<< Most of the MIDI files that I download off the internet bang the keys 
of the piano very hard when I play them on the Disklavier.  Does 
anyone have any suggestions for how to optimize MIDI files for a 
Disklavier?>>

Others have given you good advice regarding the issue of note-on velocity. 
Also keep in mind that each track in a MIDI file has a Volume parameter 
refered to as controller 7. The Disklavier's native controller 7 value is 
100. Many MIDI files set this value higher, probably to compensate for the 
weak piano sound found in many General MIDI devices, particularly computer 
sound cards. When the Disklavier receives a controller 7 value greater than 
100 (and the range is 0 to 127), it ends up playing the keys louder than the 
note-on velocities would normally imply.

<<Can it be damaging to the piano to play files off the 
internet that cause the keys of the Disklavier to be pressed too 
hardly? >>

Yes. Normally, if the listening level is comfortable, there should be no 
excessive wear on the instrument.

Regards,
PianoBench