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Re: [disklavier] should be MIDI interface

2003-10-27 by Carol Beigel

This is where ebay might be useful.  You really, really need either a serial
or parallel port MIDI interface.  Unless your laptop has a game port that a
joystick would plug into which would allow you to use a simple pigtail
interface. They used to be available by the hundreds of thousands, so I'm
sure someone, somewhere still has one!  I do, but I use mine. Todd is right
about not even thinking about using USB with a 486.  .

Carol Beigel

Re: [disklavier] should be MIDI interface

2003-10-27 by Leigh Whitley

I have struck situations where the "simple pigtail" connector to the gameport would not reliably recognise all notes and signals especially with Yamaha equipment basically because the computer end is relying on "voltage" transition and MIDI is a function of "current". These situations could only be resolved with a proper interface.
Leigh.
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This is where ebay might be useful. You really, really need either a serial
or parallel port MIDI interface. Unless your laptop has a game port that a
joystick would plug into which would allow you to use a simple pigtail
interface. They used to be available by the hundreds of thousands, so I'm
sure someone, somewhere still has one! I do, but I use mine. Todd is right
about not even thinking about using USB with a 486. .

Carol Beigel




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Re: [disklavier] should be MIDI interface

2003-10-27 by James Fry

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Leigh Whitley wrote:

> I have struck situations where the "simple pigtail" connector to the
> gameport would not reliably recognise all notes and signals especially
> with Yamaha equipment basically because the computer end is relying on
> "voltage" transition and MIDI is a function of "current". These
> situations could only be resolved with a proper interface.

I dont think those cables can claim to be proper MIDI cables - most decent
"joystick port" cables have the required 5mA current loop conversion and
isolator circuitry on them (I've taken quite a few apart over the years
when the cable has become damaged).

Apparently the MPU-401 interface design (which many cards implement) is
seriously flawed anyway and it is often difficult to get things to
synchronise accurately.

I would avoid USB devices on slow machines too. If your disklavier has a
"to-host" connector, it might be worth using that (simply connects to the
serial port and uses an easily obtainable driver), or buying a
parallel/serial port MIDI interface as others have suggested.

Regards,

James

Re: [disklavier] should be MIDI interface

2003-10-28 by Carol Beigel

I found two suitable Midi interfaces first try on Google.  The Midiman
BiPort 2x4/S is a serial port interface for $125, and the Midiman Poprtman
Pc/P for $61.95 is a parallel interface.  Both are for laptop use without
USB ports.

http://www.kraftmusic.com/catalog/software/pclaptopmidiinterfaces/index.asp?
brand=14

Carol Beigel

Re: [disklavier] should be MIDI interface

2003-10-28 by Buddhika Wije

Thanks Carol,

rgds
Budds


>From: "Carol Beigel" <crbrpt@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: "dug" <disklavier@...>
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] should be MIDI interface
>Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:16:21 -0500
>
>I found two suitable Midi interfaces first try on Google.  The Midiman
>BiPort 2x4/S is a serial port interface for $125, and the Midiman Poprtman
>Pc/P for $61.95 is a parallel interface.  Both are for laptop use without
>USB ports.
>
>http://www.kraftmusic.com/catalog/software/pclaptopmidiinterfaces/index.asp?
>brand=14
>
>Carol Beigel
>
>

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Re: [disklavier] should be MIDI interface

2003-10-29 by Buddhika Wije

Hi,

My control box does not have a host port. Looks like there is no other 
option other than to go for a serial /Parallel midi interface.

On a nother note, I am using the diskcopy function on my computer with XP to 
make E-seq files for my disklavier and all work well when converting midi 
files and playing it back on the disklavier. I use the normal 1.44mb disks 
and cover the extra hole and use the disk copy function makes them to the 
same format as the original 720 disks. However when I try and do the same 
with my 486 Toshiba Laptop with windows 95 the disklavier fails to recognize 
the files. Does any ione know why this happens?

Thanks
budds.

>From: James Fry <linx@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] should be MIDI interface
>Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:06:59 +0000 (GMT)
>
>On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Leigh Whitley wrote:
>
> > I have struck situations where the "simple pigtail" connector to the
> > gameport would not reliably recognise all notes and signals especially
> > with Yamaha equipment basically because the computer end is relying on
> > "voltage" transition and MIDI is a function of "current". These
> > situations could only be resolved with a proper interface.
>
>I dont think those cables can claim to be proper MIDI cables - most decent
>"joystick port" cables have the required 5mA current loop conversion and
>isolator circuitry on them (I've taken quite a few apart over the years
>when the cable has become damaged).
>
>Apparently the MPU-401 interface design (which many cards implement) is
>seriously flawed anyway and it is often difficult to get things to
>synchronise accurately.
>
>I would avoid USB devices on slow machines too. If your disklavier has a
>"to-host" connector, it might be worth using that (simply connects to the
>serial port and uses an easily obtainable driver), or buying a
>parallel/serial port MIDI interface as others have suggested.
>
>Regards,
>
>James

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Re: should be MIDI interface

2003-10-29 by Jorge Fernandez Moreno

If you can do the job with an old Roland MPU compatible that works 
fine in old compters with ISA o EISA BUS, please mail me.

I do not know how to send it to australia or how much the shhiping 
cost is. It is just a small box.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <crbrpt@b...> 
wrote:
> I found two suitable Midi interfaces first try on Google.  The 
Midiman
> BiPort 2x4/S is a serial port interface for $125, and the Midiman 
Poprtman
> Pc/P for $61.95 is a parallel interface.  Both are for laptop use 
without
> USB ports.
> 
> 
http://www.kraftmusic.com/catalog/software/pclaptopmidiinterfaces/ind
ex.asp?
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> brand=14
> 
> Carol Beigel

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