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A SPECIAL THANK YOU

2003-11-11 by Sheldon Deluty

On behalf of myself and my wife Zoe (and I hope I speak for other members of the group), I would like the be the first on line to thank Mike Bates for his kindness and generosity in providing seats (Orchestra seats!!) to the the Solo Piano Recital (plus 3 encores!) at 8:00 pm on Monday, November 10th, 2003 of Mei-Ting Sun, the winner of the 1st International Piano-e-Competition, at Alice Tully Hall in Lincoln Center.

I was absolutely blown away by the technical mastery (wizardry?) and wide ranging repertoire of this unbelievably talented pianist. I consider myself fortunate to have been present for this early event in what will surely be his long and successful carreer as a performing artist.

It is a tribute to Yamaha that it values it customers so long after their piano purchases that it still provides so generously on their behalf.

Thank you again Mike for thinking of your devoted Disklavier customers.

Sheldon Deluty

USING GIEBLER UNDER XP

2003-11-11 by Sheldon Deluty

to the best of my limited understanding, giebler does not work under windows xp because the processor runs too fast

but there is a shareware program available called CPU KILLER

the website is: http://www.cpukiller.com/products/cpukiller/

this program allows you to manually and controllably slow your CPU speed down to whatever speed you desire, which appears to allow Giebler and other DOS based programs and old games to run on new machines, even those with xp installed as the OS

it is trial and error as to how slow you have to make the processor run, but i can tell you that giebler works at 200 mhz (i did not try faster, yet)

when you are done, you simply close the CPU killer program and your computer ramps back up to "expressway speed" or reboot the computer

unlike the patch program kindly offered to me by jason stein, this program does not need to change the actual exe files for them to work

unfortunately, the problem remains that double density diskettes in a 1.4 HD xp floppy drive are somewhat quixotic in their performance

some diskettes can be read and some cannot, even with the slowing of the processor

i do not know if there is a program out their to make the performance of dd diskettes more predictable in modern machines

it would be nice of yamaha to provide a file reader program for their eseq formatted diskettes which can be used inside of xp or dos to read

any yamaha formatted diskettes, but i doubt that will happen any time soon

i hope this CPU killer programs helps some of the xp crowd out there who still want to use the giebler program

as giebler allows for yamaha formatting of dd diskettes outside of the disklavier, i believe it still has some utility to some users

thank you for your time

sheldon deluty

Re: [disklavier] USING GIEBLER UNDER XP

2003-11-11 by Mark A. Fontana

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Sheldon Deluty wrote:

> to the best of my limited understanding, giebler does not work under windows
> xp because the processor runs too fast
>
> but there is a shareware program available called CPU KILLER
>
> the website is:  http://www.cpukiller.com/products/cpukiller/
>
> this program allows you to manually and controllably slow your CPU speed
> down to whatever speed you desire, which appears to allow Giebler and other
> DOS based programs and old games to run on new machines, even those with xp
> installed as the OS

There is another solution - you can patch the Giebler .exe files so
that they are able to run on faster CPUs.  The patch fixes a bug in
Turbo Pascal (which the Giebler programs were apparently written in).

Download the TPPATCH utility from
   http://dp70.dyndns.org/tmp/tppatch.zip

Extract tppatch.exe from the ZIP file.  Then process each of the .exe
files in the Giebler package by doing:

   tppatch ydm.exe
   tppatch domsmf.exe

etc.

(This does modify the files, so make sure you have your original Giebler
disks available just in case anything goes wrong.)

I know the tppatch utility runs OK under DOS and Windows 95/98/ME
and I've used it successfully.

It is trickier to run under NT/2000/XP.  There, you need to do:

   debug tppatch ydm.exe
   (you're now at a '-' prompt)
   g
   q
   (you're now back at the normal prompt)

for each file.

Hope this helps.

Mark Fontana

Re: [disklavier] USING GIEBLER UNDER XP

2003-11-11 by aaron.zornes@metagroup.com

THANK YOU!!!!

I have tried for months to get the nice people at Giebler to help
DEBUG this fatal error when running W2K.

I'll be glad to test this FIX over the week-end when I get home
off the road.

--Aaron in San Francisco

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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Sheldon Deluty wrote:

> to the best of my limited understanding, giebler does not work
under windows
> xp because the processor runs too fast
>
> but there is a shareware program available called CPU KILLER
>
> the website is:  http://www.cpukiller.com/products/cpukiller/
>
> this program allows you to manually and controllably slow your
CPU speed
> down to whatever speed you desire, which appears to allow
Giebler and other
> DOS based programs and old games to run on new machines, even
those with xp
> installed as the OS

There is another solution - you can patch the Giebler .exe files
so
that they are able to run on faster CPUs.  The patch fixes a bug
in
Turbo Pascal (which the Giebler programs were apparently written
in).

Download the TPPATCH utility from
   http://dp70.dyndns.org/tmp/tppatch.zip

Extract tppatch.exe from the ZIP file.  Then process each of the
.exe
files in the Giebler package by doing:

   tppatch ydm.exe
   tppatch domsmf.exe

etc.

(This does modify the files, so make sure you have your original
Giebler
disks available just in case anything goes wrong.)

I know the tppatch utility runs OK under DOS and Windows 95/98/ME
and I've used it successfully.

It is trickier to run under NT/2000/XP.  There, you need to do:

   debug tppatch ydm.exe
   (you're now at a '-' prompt)
   g
   q
   (you're now back at the normal prompt)

for each file.

Hope this helps.

Mark Fontana

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Re: USING GIEBLER UNDER XP

2003-11-11 by midi_magic2000

Hi

Depending what it is you want Giebler to do for you I have a program 
that may help.

Midi Magic



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, aaron.zornes@m... wrote:
> 
> THANK YOU!!!!
> 
> I have tried for months to get the nice people at Giebler to help
> DEBUG this fatal error when running W2K.
> 
> I'll be glad to test this FIX over the week-end when I get home
> off the road.
> 
> --Aaron in San Francisco
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Sheldon Deluty wrote:
> 
> > to the best of my limited understanding, giebler does not work
> under windows
> > xp because the processor runs too fast
> >
> > but there is a shareware program available called CPU KILLER
> >
> > the website is:  http://www.cpukiller.com/products/cpukiller/
> >
> > this program allows you to manually and controllably slow your
> CPU speed
> > down to whatever speed you desire, which appears to allow
> Giebler and other
> > DOS based programs and old games to run on new machines, even
> those with xp
> > installed as the OS
> 
> 
> There is another solution - you can patch the Giebler .exe files
> so
> that they are able to run on faster CPUs.  The patch fixes a bug
> in
> Turbo Pascal (which the Giebler programs were apparently written
> in).
> 
> Download the TPPATCH utility from
>    http://dp70.dyndns.org/tmp/tppatch.zip
> 
> Extract tppatch.exe from the ZIP file.  Then process each of the
> .exe
> files in the Giebler package by doing:
> 
>    tppatch ydm.exe
>    tppatch domsmf.exe
> 
> etc.
> 
> (This does modify the files, so make sure you have your original
> Giebler
> disks available just in case anything goes wrong.)
> 
> I know the tppatch utility runs OK under DOS and Windows 95/98/ME
> and I've used it successfully.
> 
> It is trickier to run under NT/2000/XP.  There, you need to do:
> 
>    debug tppatch ydm.exe
>    (you're now at a '-' prompt)
>    g
>    q
>    (you're now back at the normal prompt)
> 
> for each file.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Mark Fontana
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> To reach our group's web site go to:
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> 
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It
> contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites
> among many other things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com
> 
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Re: USING GIEBLER UNDER XP

2003-11-11 by midi_magic2000

Hi Sheldon

it would be nice of yamaha to provide a file reader program for their 
eseq formatted diskettes which can be used inside of xp or dos to 
read 
any yamaha formatted diskettes, but i doubt that will happen any time 
soon

All I can say is watch this space.......coming soon.


Midi Magic



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Sheldon Deluty" <mdshd@e...> 
wrote:
> to the best of my limited understanding, giebler does not work 
under windows
> xp because the processor runs too fast
> 
> but there is a shareware program available called CPU KILLER
> 
> the website is:  http://www.cpukiller.com/products/cpukiller/
> 
> this program allows you to manually and controllably slow your CPU 
speed
> down to whatever speed you desire, which appears to allow Giebler 
and other
> DOS based programs and old games to run on new machines, even those 
with xp
> installed as the OS
> 
> it is trial and error as to how slow you have to make the processor 
run, but
> i can tell you that giebler works at 200 mhz (i did not try faster, 
yet)
> 
> when you are done, you simply close the CPU killer program and your 
computer
> ramps back up to "expressway speed" or reboot the computer
> 
> unlike the patch program kindly offered to me by jason stein, this 
program
> does not need to change the actual exe files for them to work
> 
> unfortunately, the problem remains that double density diskettes in 
a 1.4 HD
> xp floppy drive are somewhat quixotic in their performance
> 
> some diskettes can be read and some cannot, even with the slowing 
of the
> processor
> 
> i do not know if there is a program out their to make the 
performance of dd
> diskettes more predictable in modern machines
> 
> it would be nice of yamaha to provide a file reader program for 
their eseq
> formatted diskettes which can be used inside of xp or dos to read
> any yamaha formatted diskettes, but i doubt that will happen any 
time soon
> 
> i hope this CPU killer programs helps some of the xp crowd out 
there who
> still want to use the giebler program
> 
> as giebler allows for yamaha formatting of dd diskettes outside of 
the

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> disklavier, i believe it still has some utility to some users
> 
> thank you for your time
> 
> sheldon deluty