Re: [disklavier] Re: recording music for transcription
2005-03-26 by FRASER RUBENS
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2005-03-26 by FRASER RUBENS
2005-03-27 by PianoBench@aol.com
Good afternoon, everyone. In a message dated 3/26/05 9:05:38 AM, Fraser writes: > I am interested in recording music on my disklavier, to export it to a > music program, so that I can print it out after transposing it. > > has anyone any experience in this and how you do it? > You can record a Type 0 Standard MIDI File (which is the normal type) on your Disklavier, copy it to a floppy, and open it in any number of music programs on you computer. This is especially useful if you want to edit the performance, in which case, you need to use a sequencing program. If you want to turn it into notation for printing, you probably should use a notation program. However, you may need to edit the performance in a sequencer first, for a variety of reasons. The big issues are: (1) how does the notation program know which notes were played by which hand (2) how does the notation program know "where the beat is," especially if you did not record to a metronome. If you record to a metronome AND record one hand at a time to separate tracks, you may be able to get good results when you open the file in a music notation program, but you will probably have to set the program's quantization settings intelligently. If you need not record to a metronome and/or did not record the hands separately, the situation is much more complex. Below is info on this subject that I have posted in the past. Regards, PianoBench ************** This can definitely be done if you do the right steps in the right order. The crucial issue is reclocking the MIDI file. Any time a person makes a MIDI recording, they play to a metronome click WHETHER OR NOT they were listening to an audible metronome. If they did not listen to the metronome, the notes that they played will not line up to logical beats and barlines. Any music software program that is used to open the MIDI recordings will look at the metronome data, assume that it represents where the beats are, and will then transcribe the recorded notes accordingly. Obviously, the notation will be a mess because the defined beats in the MIDI file have no true relationship to the music as it was performed. It is important to note that the "quantization" feature that is available in many music programs will not be any help in straightening out this problem. When you use quantization, the notes get pushed and pulled to the nearest beats or sub-beats. If the beats of the MIDI file don't have any close relationship to the notes as they were played, quantization messes things up further. To understand reclocking, it easiest to think about the process in reverse. Suppose you knew what the arrangement should look like in music notation, and you used a music notation program to enter the notes manually, clicking them onto the staff with the mouse. Of course you would end up with a beautiful score, but its playback would be horribly mechanical and boring. If you wanted to make the playback sound just like a pianist's recording, you would have to do three things: (1) edit the note-on velocity of each note to match the way that it was played it, (2) add pedal information, and (3) add tempo changes every beat to reflect the human ebb and flow of the original recording. #3 would be challenging and time consuming, but it would be necessary. The result would be that your score would look square, boring, and mathematically perfect, but it would play with the tempo flexibility used by a performing artist. The purpose of reclocking the file is to achieve the same result: a score that is square, boring, and mathematically perfect but which plays with the original tempo flexibility imparted by the artist. When you reclock a file, you go through a process of telling a sequencing program where the true musical beats and barlines are in the MIDI file. This is done in different ways by different programs. I happen to use Digital Performer for the Macintosh. DP has a feature called "Adjust Beats." I set up DP to show me the recorded music in piano roll notation. In this graphic view, I see all of the notes laid out on a grid. When I turn on the adjust beats feature, I can drag the beat markers on the grid to the notes to which they musically apply. DP then moves the notes around to line up properly on the rigid grid AND DP creates a tempo map that preserves the tempo nuances of the original performance. When using this feature, I have to drag every beat marker to the correct note. I could do this another way in DP. The other way to do it is similar to the way that some of the Cakewalk sequencers do this (using a Cakewalk feature called "Fit Improvisation"). What you do is create a new track and set it to record. Then during the recording, you listen to the original performance and simultaneously tap a key on your MIDI keyboard. The idea is to record one note for every beat in the music and to record each note so that it coincides with the musical beats of the original performance. This new beat track enables the program to reorganize the MIDI data in the file, line things up properly, and compute a new tempo map. After this is done, the beat track is discarded. The second way of doing things is not as accurate, but it can be faster. Once you have reclocked the file, you can further quantize the notes in any program if you wish. Before importing the notes into a music notation program, I generally view the notes in piano roll view in my sequencer and select the notes that I deem to be left hand notes and cut-and-paste them into a separate track. Having the left- and right-hand notes in separate tracks will result in a cleaner transcription by the music notation program.