Disklavier

I'm a newbie and was wondering if anyone else is as frustrated as I 
am at the lack of Original Artist Music Software for the 
Disklaviers. Could someone explain what the problem is and why this 
cannot be rectified? Why can't any Artists make money off of 
Disklavier Software just as they would if they sold a record?

I am quite disappointed after purchasing my Disklavier that artists 
like Billy Joel, Elton John, etc. have PianoSoft titles out but 
performed by some other Pianist who naturally does not have ANY of 
their style and/or sound. This seems true of the majority of music 
available for purchase.

Does anyone know if it's possible to convert/format Commercial Music 
CD's to be able to play the actual piano parts on the Disklavier?

I understand there are PianoSoft and PianoSmart CD's available but 
this is also either very limited or using another "play along" 
pianist's performance with the actual commercial performance and not 
the real original artist.

The closest I have gotten so far to hearing pure artistry from my 
Disklavier has been from the "Gershwin plays Gershwin" Software that 
was actual Piano Rolls performed by him and converted to Disklavier 
Technology. There must be others???

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "pangaeapilot" 
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wrote:
> ......
> The closest I have gotten so far to hearing pure artistry from my 
> Disklavier has been from the "Gershwin plays Gershwin" Software
that 
> was actual Piano Rolls performed by him and converted to 
Disklavier 
> Technology. There must be others???


Conversion of piano rolls to MIDI files, which can be played on the 
Disklavier, is being undertaken by several people in a loosely 
organized cooperative effort.
I have a website with approximately 1000 piano rolls scanned so far, 
and more being added as I obtain more rolls to scan.
There are many excellent performances by some of the top piano roll 
artists of that era ( Charley Straight, Zez Confrey, Roy Bargy, 
Jimmy Blythe, J. Russel Robinson, etc.) available for free download.

My site is at:

   http://www.trachtman.org/rollscans/

Due to U.S. copyright restrictions, only songs from 1922 and earlier 
are available for public download from my site.

My piano roll MIDI site is similar to Terry Smythe's site at:
   http://members.shaw.ca/smythe/rebirth.htm
which also has a few thousand piano rolls converted to MIDI files.

I hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Warren Trachtman

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Hi,
I am not exactly a newboy, but I am astonished that
someone hasn't recorded the great repertoire for the
instrument in complete volumes. Eg Where can I find
the Well Tempered Clavier in its entirety, or the
Chopin Waltzes, Nocturnes, Polonaises, indeed all of
the great works of this composer in complete volumes.
I am gladly willing to pay for these.
Can anyone help me please????
Brent Egan
--- pangaeapilot <PangaeaPilot@...> wrote:


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I'm a newbie and was wondering if anyone else is as
frustrated as I 
am at the lack of Original Artist Music Software for
the 
Disklaviers. Could someone explain what the problem is
and why this 
cannot be rectified? Why can't any Artists make money
off of 
Disklavier Software just as they would if they sold a
record?

I am quite disappointed after purchasing my Disklavier
that artists 
like Billy Joel, Elton John, etc. have PianoSoft
titles out but 
performed by some other Pianist who naturally does not
have ANY of 
their style and/or sound. This seems true of the
majority of music 
available for purchase.

Does anyone know if it's possible to convert/format
Commercial Music 
CD's to be able to play the actual piano parts on the
Disklavier?

I understand there are PianoSoft and PianoSmart CD's
available but 
this is also either very limited or using another
"play along" 
pianist's performance with the actual commercial
performance and not 
the real original artist.

The closest I have gotten so far to hearing pure
artistry from my 
Disklavier has been from the "Gershwin plays Gershwin"
Software that 
was actual Piano Rolls performed by him and converted
to Disklavier 
Technology. There must be others???




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012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content
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Good morning, everyone.

On Jul 16, 2005, at 5:34 AM, Brent wrote:

> Hi,
> I am not exactly a newboy, but I am astonished that
> someone hasn't recorded the great repertoire for the
> instrument in complete volumes. Eg Where can I find
> the Well Tempered Clavier in its entirety, or the
> Chopin Waltzes, Nocturnes, Polonaises, indeed all of
> the great works of this composer in complete volumes.
> I am gladly willing to pay for these.
> Can anyone help me please????

Although it doesn't contain either complete volumes (such as what you  
have listed) nor corrected (i.e. perfect) performances, the  
International Piano-e-Competition (www.piano-e-competition.com) web  
site does include an enormous library of high quality classical  
recordings from both the 2002 and 2004 performances. The recordings  
were made on a Disklavier Pro. In the case of certain pieces, you can  
actually find multiple recordings of the same work.

It is a little hard to find the recordings by navigating from the  
home page. Better places to start are:

2002
http://www.piano-e-competition.com/finalists.htm

2004
http://www.piano-e-competition.com/2004Contestants.htm

Regards,
PianoBench

I share your concern for original artist material.  I wonder if the artists themselves know what a lasting legacy such recordings could be for them.  I have found other reproducing piano rolls with original artist recordings and they are simply wonderful!  Scott Joplin, Josef Hofmann, Pederewski,  Adam Caroll, Sergie Rachmaninoff, Arthur Rubinstein, and others.  
 
I too would love to have some of our contemporary performers record for Disklavier.  Perhaps a music publisher could make this happen but I fear there might not be enough money in the venture to make it worth their while.  In comparison to the tens of millions of potential buyers for conventional CD's, Disklavier owners probably number in the thousands.
 
Perhaps we, as Disklavier owners, could approach a performer (or their agent) and inquire about the possibilities?
 
Regards,
 
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: pangaeapilot <PangaeaPilot@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:28:31 -0000
Subject: [disklavier] Original Artist Music Software


I'm a newbie and was wondering if anyone else is as frustrated as I 
am at the lack of Original Artist Music Software for the 
Disklaviers. Could someone explain what the problem is and why this 
cannot be rectified? Why can't any Artists make money off of 
Disklavier Software just as they would if they sold a record?

I am quite disappointed after purchasing my Disklavier that artists 
like Billy Joel, Elton John, etc. have PianoSoft titles out but 
performed by some other Pianist who naturally does not have ANY of 
their style and/or sound. This seems true of the majority of music 
available for purchase.

Does anyone know if it's possible to convert/format Commercial Music 
CD's to be able to play the actual piano parts on the Disklavier?

I understand there are PianoSoft and PianoSmart CD's available but 
this is also either very limited or using another "play along" 
pianist's performance with the actual commercial performance and not 
the real original artist.

The closest I have gotten so far to hearing pure artistry from my 
Disklavier has been from the "Gershwin plays Gershwin" Software that 
was actual Piano Rolls performed by him and converted to Disklavier 
Technology. There must be others???




To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...

To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send 
it to:
disklavier-owner@...

To reach our group's web site go to:
http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier

Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains some fun 
disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is:
http://MuncyFamily.com 

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On 18 Jul 2005 at 14:21, n9544c@... wrote:

> 
> I share your concern for original artist material. I wonder if the 
> artists themselves know what a lasting legacy such recordings could 

Hi,

This is interesting.  I am sure I read somewhere that Elton John 
either owns or at least uses a disclavier during some of his 
performances so it may be that the files already exist and only need 
marketing.



> be for them. I have found otherreproducing piano rolls 
> withoriginalartist recordings and they are simply wonderful! Scott 
> Joplin,Josef Hofmann, Pederewski, Adam Caroll, Sergie Rachmaninoff, 

> Arthur Rubinstein, and others. 
> 
> I too would love to have some of our contemporary performers 
> recordfor Disklavier. Perhaps a music publisher could make this 
> happen but I fear there might not be enough money in the venture to 

> make it worth their while. In comparison to the tens of millions of 

> potential buyers for conventional CD's, Disklavier owners probably 
> number in the thousands.
> 
> Perhaps we, as Disklavier owners, could approach a performer (or 
> their agent) and inquire about the possibilities?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pangaeapilot <PangaeaPilot@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:28:31 -0000
> Subject: [disklavier] Original Artist Music Software
> 
> I'm a newbie and was wondering if anyone else is as frustrated as I 

> am at the lack of Original Artist Music Software for the 
> Disklaviers. Could someone explain what the problem is and why this 

> cannot be rectified? Why can't any Artists make money off of 
> Disklavier Software just as they would if they sold a record?
> 
> I am quite disappointed after purchasing my Disklavier that artists 

> like Billy Joel, Elton John, etc. have PianoSoft titles out but 
> performed by some other Pianist who naturally does not have ANY of 
> their style and/or sound. This seems true of the majority of music 
> available for purchase.
> 
> Does anyone know if it's possible to convert/format Commercial 
Music 
> CD's to be able to play the actual piano parts on the Disklavier?
> 
> I understand there are PianoSoft and PianoSmart CD's available but 
> this is also either very limited or using another "play along" 
> pianist's performance with the actual commercial performance and 
not 
> the real original artist.
> 
> The closest I have gotten so far to hearing pure artistry from my 
> Disklavier has been from the "Gershwin plays Gershwin" Software 
that 
> was actual Piano Rolls performed by him and converted to Disklavier 

> Technology. There must be others???
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   
disklavier@...
> 
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
moderator, send 
> it to:
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> 
> To reach our group's web site go to:
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> 
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It 
contains some fun 
> disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, 
The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com 
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> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It 
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other 
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> http://MuncyFamily.com 
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Keith

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Keith Barrett
email <barrettpianos.co.uk>
Amateur radio callsign gw4nby
Bridgend, South Wales

Hi I'm Robert,

Wayne Stahnke Has wonderful software in the E-seq
format that plays on your disklavier. He has all of
Rachmanivaoff"s Ampeco rolls trasfered and are
wonderful. The software is called Live Performence and
I sell them or you can look at the whole library at
www.computerklavier.com and purchase form them. 

Best wishes, 

Robert Turner

 



		
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