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Comments on servicability and problem areas for future buyer

Comments on servicability and problem areas for future buyer

2005-09-08 by wisteriastudios

Hello,

I hope this isn't too far off topic but I can't seem to locate a better source for user 
information. If you know of a better place to look I would appreciate any links you may be 
able to provide.

I am now looking for a used Diskclavier. I have eyeballed them for years and am ready to 
take the plunge. However, the newest ones are slightly out of reach for my budget.

I want to buy a used one and would love to get everyones opinion on which model and 
what kind of maintenance problems I should be aware of.

I want to be able to record and playback and am looking for a Baby Grand size. I am a self 
taught hobbiest player but I do all my singer/songwriter composing on the accoustic 
piano. I am not expecting the greatest piano sound and feel from the piano I buy but I 
don't want to be disappointed by older technology or maintenance problems if I can help it 
(and with your help).

Thanks in advance.

Larry

Re: [disklavier] Comments on servicability and problem areas for future buyer

2005-09-08 by Robert Welcyng

Larry:

You are not off topic at all.  IMO, this Yahoo Group is the the best 
list for Disklavier.  You might also wish to join Yamaha's Disklavier 
Users Group (DUG).  Here's how:
----------------------------------------
To remove yourself from DUG or to resubscribe in the future, send one
of the following commands in an email message:

          subscribe dug your_email_address
    or
          unsubscribe dug your_email_address

Here are two example messages:

          subscribe dug jdoe@...

          unsubscribe dug jdoe@...

Send the subscribe or unsubscribe message to:

          dug-request@...

To send a message to all of the members of DUG, use the following
address:

          dug@...
--------------------------------------------

Be advised  that talk about buying, selling, and prices is not 
acceptable on Yamaha DUG, but is perfectly fine here.

I happen to own a Mark II DC3 Disklavier that I bought new ten years 
ago. I've never had any trouble with it that routine adjustments by a 
piano tech didn't correct.  I'm very happy with the instrument. In my 
case, recording and playing piano solo is all I ever wanted or expected. 
 Obviously there other buyers in the marketplace who are willing pay for 
the synthesizers, loudspeakers, and other gadgetry featured by Mark IIIs 
and Mark IVs.  Some of those people have upgraded and traded-in so that 
there surely are such used instruments to be found on the floors of 
dealers around the country.

BTW, if you buy a Yamaha DC series, you will not have to compromise on 
the quality of the sound or feel.

Before you buy (new or used), get a feel for the differing features of 
Mark IIs, IIIs, and IVs.  For information on the latest models, 
 www.yamaha.com will be somewhat of a help.  For the older models, 
you'll have to ask on the lists, or, better, visit with some dealers and 
ask about them.  Try out the instruments while you are there. Once you 
have digested the differences, decide which models meet your minimum needs.

Before you buy, get the serial number and check that it is supported by 
calling Yamaha. Don't even consider an unsupported gray market instrument.

 From the Yamaha  website, you can obtain the names of Yamaha-authorized 
dealers within any ZIP code.  Do that and call a number of dealers in 
your search for used Disklaviers. Realize that it is not a big deal to 
have a piano shipped across the country.

Contact piano technicians and inquire about Disklaviers that might be 
for sale by private parties.

Also check this site periodically: http://www.pianomart.com/

Use your best skills in bargaining with dealers.  Don't get in a hurry. 
When you have three or four instruments in your sights, let each dealer 
know what the competing offers are.  Don't be bashful about presenting 
your own offer.  Of course, dealers just love to have people come into 
the store ready to whip out their check book and buy at the first price 
mentioned. You needn't do that and you'll find that the best sales 
people will still work with you and tenaciously try to swing a deal.

If you get into a private party deal, hire a Yamaha-trained tech to 
check the condition of the instrument as a contingency to the sale.

Don't automatically assume that you cannot afford some instrument. I 
know of a Mark IIXG DC7 in prime condition that went  for $17K in a 
divorce sale!

Good luck!



wisteriastudios wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I hope this isn't too far off topic but I can't seem to locate a better source for user 
>information. If you know of a better place to look I would appreciate any links you may be 
>able to provide.
>
>I am now looking for a used Diskclavier. I have eyeballed them for years and am ready to 
>take the plunge. However, the newest ones are slightly out of reach for my budget.
>
>I want to buy a used one and would love to get everyones opinion on which model and 
>what kind of maintenance problems I should be aware of.
>
>I want to be able to record and playback and am looking for a Baby Grand size. I am a self 
>taught hobbiest player but I do all my singer/songwriter composing on the accoustic 
>piano. I am not expecting the greatest piano sound and feel from the piano I buy but I 
>don't want to be disappointed by older technology or maintenance problems if I can help it 
>(and with your help).
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Larry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
>To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
>disklavier-owner@...
>
>To reach our group's web site go to:
>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
>Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is:
>http://MuncyFamily.com 
>
>THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
>disklavier-unsubscribe@... 
>
>Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
>disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join 
> 
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

Re: Comments on servicability and problem areas for future buyer

2005-09-08 by rednebmb

Larry - I am not sure how hard have negotiated with the dealer, but 
I found you can drive a pretty good deal on a new model if you find 
a piano on the floor that a dealer is looking to move.  I bought my 
MX85 upright about 6 years ago and found I was able to obtain a much 
better price by shopping several dealers.  While one dealer had to 
order the particular finish I wanted, another had it on the floor 
and was willing to negotiate much more.  Also know that a very high 
percentage of pianos are sold in the month of December (which is 
when I bought mine.)  You might do better 'off-season.'
Good Luck.
Brian

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Robert Welcyng <rwelcyng@a...> 
wrote:
> Larry:
> 
> You are not off topic at all.  IMO, this Yahoo Group is the the 
best 
> list for Disklavier.  You might also wish to join Yamaha's 
Disklavier 
> Users Group (DUG).  Here's how:
> ----------------------------------------
> To remove yourself from DUG or to resubscribe in the future, send 
one
> of the following commands in an email message:
> 
>           subscribe dug your_email_address
>     or
>           unsubscribe dug your_email_address
> 
> Here are two example messages:
> 
>           subscribe dug jdoe@a...
> 
>           unsubscribe dug jdoe@a...
> 
> Send the subscribe or unsubscribe message to:
> 
>           dug-request@n...
> 
> To send a message to all of the members of DUG, use the following
> address:
> 
>           dug@n...
> --------------------------------------------
> 
> Be advised  that talk about buying, selling, and prices is not 
> acceptable on Yamaha DUG, but is perfectly fine here.
> 
> I happen to own a Mark II DC3 Disklavier that I bought new ten 
years 
> ago. I've never had any trouble with it that routine adjustments 
by a 
> piano tech didn't correct.  I'm very happy with the instrument. In 
my 
> case, recording and playing piano solo is all I ever wanted or 
expected. 
>  Obviously there other buyers in the marketplace who are willing 
pay for 
> the synthesizers, loudspeakers, and other gadgetry featured by 
Mark IIIs 
> and Mark IVs.  Some of those people have upgraded and traded-in so 
that 
> there surely are such used instruments to be found on the floors 
of 
> dealers around the country.
> 
> BTW, if you buy a Yamaha DC series, you will not have to 
compromise on 
> the quality of the sound or feel.
> 
> Before you buy (new or used), get a feel for the differing 
features of 
> Mark IIs, IIIs, and IVs.  For information on the latest models, 
>  www.yamaha.com will be somewhat of a help.  For the older models, 
> you'll have to ask on the lists, or, better, visit with some 
dealers and 
> ask about them.  Try out the instruments while you are there. Once 
you 
> have digested the differences, decide which models meet your 
minimum needs.
> 
> Before you buy, get the serial number and check that it is 
supported by 
> calling Yamaha. Don't even consider an unsupported gray market 
instrument.
> 
>  From the Yamaha  website, you can obtain the names of Yamaha-
authorized 
> dealers within any ZIP code.  Do that and call a number of dealers 
in 
> your search for used Disklaviers. Realize that it is not a big 
deal to 
> have a piano shipped across the country.
> 
> Contact piano technicians and inquire about Disklaviers that might 
be 
> for sale by private parties.
> 
> Also check this site periodically: http://www.pianomart.com/
> 
> Use your best skills in bargaining with dealers.  Don't get in a 
hurry. 
> When you have three or four instruments in your sights, let each 
dealer 
> know what the competing offers are.  Don't be bashful about 
presenting 
> your own offer.  Of course, dealers just love to have people come 
into 
> the store ready to whip out their check book and buy at the first 
price 
> mentioned. You needn't do that and you'll find that the best sales 
> people will still work with you and tenaciously try to swing a 
deal.
> 
> If you get into a private party deal, hire a Yamaha-trained tech 
to 
> check the condition of the instrument as a contingency to the sale.
> 
> Don't automatically assume that you cannot afford some instrument. 
I 
> know of a Mark IIXG DC7 in prime condition that went  for $17K in 
a 
> divorce sale!
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> 
> wisteriastudios wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >I hope this isn't too far off topic but I can't seem to locate a 
better source for user 
> >information. If you know of a better place to look I would 
appreciate any links you may be 
> >able to provide.
> >
> >I am now looking for a used Diskclavier. I have eyeballed them 
for years and am ready to 
> >take the plunge. However, the newest ones are slightly out of 
reach for my budget.
> >
> >I want to buy a used one and would love to get everyones opinion 
on which model and 
> >what kind of maintenance problems I should be aware of.
> >
> >I want to be able to record and playback and am looking for a 
Baby Grand size. I am a self 
> >taught hobbiest player but I do all my singer/songwriter 
composing on the accoustic 
> >piano. I am not expecting the greatest piano sound and feel from 
the piano I buy but I 
> >don't want to be disappointed by older technology or maintenance 
problems if I can help it 
> >(and with your help).
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@Y...
> >
> >To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
moderator, send it to:
> >disklavier-owner@Y...
> >
> >To reach our group's web site go to:
> >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> >Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It 
contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among 
many other things, The url is:
> >http://MuncyFamily.com 
> >
> >THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> >If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option 
instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access 
to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank 
email to:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> >disklavier-unsubscribe@y... 
> >
> >Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> >disklavier-subscribe@e... or give them this link:
> >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join 
> > 
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> -- 
> Robert Welcyng
> Anchorage, Alaska

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