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I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2004 midi files 
(pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi file, 
competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130 kB) spreadsheet 
since: "The disk space allotted for this community is not big enough 
for your file."

From: "jaygould2006" <jaygould2006@...>

> I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2004 midi files
> (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi file,
> competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130 kB) spreadsheet
> since: "The disk space allotted for this community is not big enough
> for your file."

The files section of the Yahoo Groups disklavier group is set by Yahoo to have a 
maximum storage size of 20MB. This limit was placed by Yahoo for all of the free 
Yahoo Groups several years ago and has yet to be increased. We know that is a 
ridiculous limit in this day of relatively cheap storage. A couple of folks had 
volunteered at one time to host a site where additional material could be 
stored. I'm not certain as to what became of the offer. We could place a link 
here to another site if this did come about.

I had spend many hours about 3 years ago organizing this Group's file section 
and 'trimmed' out material that was considered sub-standard material, multiple 
MIDI files of the same material, 'Little Susan's First Recital' (might be what 
someone was proud of at one time), <or> illegal (i.e., copyrighted material) 
that should have never been placed there in the first place.

I will go back over the next few days and take another look at files that 
potentially could be cleaned out to make room for additional material.

There are already two speadsheets in the files section. How is your 
better?



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "jaygould2006" <jaygould2006@...> 
wrote:

>
> I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2004 midi files 
> (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi file, 
> competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130 kB) spreadsheet 
> since: "The disk space allotted for this community is not big enough 
> for your file."
>

Of course I meant an Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2006 midi files (one single spreadsheet). It contains all (?) the 763 midi files.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "david962548" wrote:
>
> There are already two speadsheets in the files section. How is your
> better?
>
>
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "jaygould2006" jaygould2006@
> wrote:
> >
> > I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2004 midi files
> > (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi file,
> > competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130 kB) spreadsheet
> > since: "The disk space allotted for this community is not big enough
> > for your file."
> >
>

I think I probably have more than enough space to host
the list if need be, at www.carolrpt.com

Carol

----- Original Message -----
From: "jaygould2006" <jaygould2006@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: [disklavier] piano-e-competition


> I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and
2004 midi files
> (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi
file,
> competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130
kB) spreadsheet
> since: "The disk space allotted for this community is
not big enough
> for your file."
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Todd's family web site was completely updated
012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and
links to midi sites among many other things, The url
is:
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Carol, if that's no problem:  yes please.


I'll send the file to you by mail. The spreadsheet can be sorted in any
order (contestant/pianist-composer-composition-year-size). This one is
sorted by composer. The size refers to the enhanced standard midi files.

No doubt ther are omissions and errors the spreadsheet, but it is a good
start I think.

best regards,


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> wrote:

>
> I think I probably have more than enough space to host
> the list if need be, at www.carolrpt.com
>
> Carol
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jaygould2006" jaygould2006@...
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:04 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] piano-e-competition
>
>
> > I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and
> 2004 midi files
> > (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi
> file,
> > competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130
> kB) spreadsheet
> > since: "The disk space allotted for this community is
> not big enough
> > for your file."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> founder and moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > Todd's family web site was completely updated
> 012/22/03. It contains some fun disklavier content and
> links to midi sites among many other things, The url
> is:
> > http://MuncyFamily.com
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
> getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
> your email delivery option instead. That will fix the
> problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
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And thanks to Danny,  this time  the upload was successful.


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "jaygould2006" <jaygould2006@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Carol, if that's no problem: yes please.
>
>
> I'll send the file to you by mail. The spreadsheet can be sorted in
any
> order (contestant/pianist-composer-composition-year-size). This one is
> sorted by composer. The size refers to the enhanced standard midi
files.
>
> No doubt ther are omissions and errors the spreadsheet, but it is a
good

> start I think.
>
> best regards,
>
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" thecarolb@ wrote:
> >
> > I think I probably have more than enough space to host
> > the list if need be, at www.carolrpt.com
> >
> > Carol
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jaygould2006" jaygould2006@
> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:04 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] piano-e-competition
> >
> >
> > > I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and
> > 2004 midi files
> > > (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi
> > file,
> > > competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130
> > kB) spreadsheet
> > > since: "The disk space allotted for this community is
> > not big enough
> > > for your file."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> > disklavier@
> > >
> > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> > founder and moderator, send it to:
> > > disklavier-owner@
> > >
> > > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> > >
> > > Todd's family web site was completely updated
> > 012/22/03. It contains some fun disklavier content and
> > links to midi sites among many other things, The url
> > is:
> > > http://MuncyFamily.com
> > >
> > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
> > getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
> > your email delivery option instead. That will fix the
> > problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> > If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> > email to:
> > > disklavier-unsubscribe@
> > >
> > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

Thank you for the list - very helpful.  I wonder if you might also post 
the specific URLs of the competitions - I always seem to have difficulty 
in finding all of the years.  Thank you!

-=mark=-

jaygould2006 wrote:

> I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2004 midi files 
> (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi file, 
> competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130 kB) spreadsheet 
> since: "The disk space allotted for this community is not big enough 
> for your file."
> [snip]
>
>
>
>

Hi

Just have a look around this site. Choose a contestant and scroll 
down for the zip files.

http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/contestants_2006.asp

The other site is:

http://www.piano-e-competition.com/finalists.htm

Midi Magic




--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Theta Sigma <thetasig@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the list - very helpful.  I wonder if you might also 
post 
> the specific URLs of the competitions - I always seem to have 
difficulty 
> in finding all of the years.  Thank you!
> 
> -=mark=-
> 
> jaygould2006 wrote:
> > I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2004 midi 
files 
> > (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi file, 
> > competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130 kB) 
spreadsheet 
> > since: "The disk space allotted for this community is not big 
enough 

> > for your file."
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

In addition:

2002 files: http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/midi_2002.asp
2004 files: http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/midi_2004.asp

2006 files: http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/participants_2006.asp (audition round included), and http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/contestants_2006.asp (recital and Schubert round only).

best regards,

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "david962548" wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Just have a look around this site. Choose a contestant and scroll
> down for the zip files.
>
> http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/contestants_2006.asp
>
> The other site is:
>
> http://www.piano-e-competition.com/finalists.htm
>
> Midi Magic
>
>
>
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Theta Sigma thetasig@ wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the list - very helpful. I wonder if you might also
> post
> > the specific URLs of the competitions - I always seem to have
> difficulty
> > in finding all of the years. Thank you!
> >
> > -=mark=-
> >
> > jaygould2006 wrote:
> > > I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2004 midi
> files
> > > (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi file,
> > > competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130 kB)
> spreadsheet
> > > since: "The disk space allotted for this community is not big
> enough
> > > for your file."
> > > [snip]
> > >
>; > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Good afternoon, everyone.

The Piano-e-Competition website has had quite a facelift and there  
has been an additional convenience added in the last couple of days.

The best way to find all of the MIDI files from all 3 competitions  
and to get many of your technical questions answered, is go to the  
home page:

http://www.piano-e-competition.com/

Click on the link in the lower right corner that says, "Learn about  
these MIDI formats and how to download the zip files. . ." This will  
take you to:

http://www.piano-e-competition.com/midiinstructions.asp

The main part of this page describes the various available file  
formats. On the left side are links to the MIDI files of all three  
competitions. You will need to probe the individual contestant  
listings of each competition in order to find the MIDI files. The  
links attached to individual pieces are for normal, Type 0 Standard  
MIDI files, playable on a Mark II or later Disklavier.

The contestant listings for 2004 and 2006 also include single  
downloads for all pieces played by individual contestants. The  
groupings are by file type:

--E-SEQ
Playable on any Disklavier.

--Enhanced Standard MIDI File
Type 0 SMFs playable on Mark II and later Disklaviers. This is the  
preferred choice if you have a Mark II or later Disklavier which is  
not a Pro.

--XP SMFs
These Type 0 SMFs contain the high resolution data that is recognized  
by the Disklavier Pro (any vintage). Although they are playable on  
any Disklavier that supports SMFs, the additional, high resolution  
data is only used by the Pro.

Regards,
PianoBench

On Sep 11, 2006, at 4:22 AM, david962548 wrote:

> Hi
>
> Just have a look around this site. Choose a contestant and scroll
> down for the zip files.
>
> http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/contestants_2006.asp
>
> The other site is:
>
> http://www.piano-e-competition.com/finalists.htm
>
> Midi Magic
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Theta Sigma <thetasig@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the list - very helpful. I wonder if you might also
> post
> > the specific URLs of the competitions - I always seem to have
> difficulty
> > in finding all of the years. Thank you!
> >
> > -=mark=-
> >
> > jaygould2006 wrote:
> > > I've made a Excel spreadsheet of the 2002, 2004 and 2004 midi
> files
> > > (pianist/contestant, composer, composition, name midi file,
> > > competition year, size). But I can't upload the (130 kB)
> spreadsheet
> > > since: "The disk space allotted for this community is not big
> enough
> > > for your file."
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

Greetings david962548,

So, how do we get the ? improved spreadsheet?  I have a program that
will insert the data from a properly constructed spreadsheet (actually
tabbed text output from excel) into the MIDI files as keyworded text.
It also inserts a composite of title performer and composer into the
first track name. I also have a program that will format the title
performer and composer information so that it displays reasonably in
VanBascos Karaoke player. If I can get a full set of the files
together (very slowly downloading them all now) and a complete
spreadsheet, I can mark up the text in all the files or at least make
the tabbed text file so that others can do so with their files. It is
necessary to have an exact match in the spreadsheet to the file name.

-- 
Best regards,
Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
http://www.spencerserolls.com/MidiValve.htm
(707) 984-8356

Good evening, everyone.

On Sep 11, 2006, at 8:51 PM, ISKI1@... wrote:

> If you download the files from the website the titles and composer  
> are displayed correctly on a disklavier and Vanbasco player.
I have not used the P-e-C files with VanBasco. However, I can tell  
you that the embedded title information consists of piece name and  
performer name--or as much of those names as can fit within a 32- 
character limitation. There is no embedded composer information.

Regards,
PianoBench

Sorry!
You are right only the midi file name, title and performer are  displayed . 
The composer is not displayed.

Greetings George,

I see that there is text that displays in VB but I really want to
format the files so that they display all the information (including
composer and full title) in my MIDI playlist player. It may not happen
soon, but I do want to have the ability to search by any field and
select the piece I want to listen to. I can also make an excel sheet
with embedded hyperlinks to the files and can also do the same with an
access DB. It should be possible to do all this if the information in
the excel sheet is correct and matches the file names. I seem to be
about 200 files short of what is in the spreadsheet. Does anyone have
a complete set for comparison?

 --  Best regards, Spencer_Lists Chase
mailto:lists@... 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA
95542    Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com
http://www.spencerserolls.com/MidiValve.htm (707) 984-8356

Greetings ISKI1,


Monday, September 11, 2006, 6:24:26 PM, you wrote:  > Sorry! >   >
You are right only the midi file name, title and performer are  >
displayed . The composer is not displayed.

I have made the excel sheet compatible with my titling program and am
adding keyword text and track names to all the files that I
downloaded. I also have a program that will retitle the files with a
windowz long filename taken from the first track name. This will give
a composite name with title, composer and performer, as long as the
limit that you specify. Very long names can be made which will include
all information. This makes it easier to select files in Van Bascos
and to find files in folders easily.

If anyone is interested, I'll make a stripped version of the titling
program for use with the comp files only. It is a little confusing to
use as it is now because I use it for all sorts of special purposes.
The rename as track program is simple to use as it is but requires
that a track name be present in the file so the titling program needs
to be run first.

-- 
Best regards,
Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
Spencer@spencerserolls.com
http://www.spencerserolls.com
http://www.spencerserolls.com/MidiValve.htm
(707) 984-8356

----- Original Message -----

From: George F. Litterst

To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:59 PM

Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: piano-e-competition

Good evening, everyone.

On Sep 11, 2006, at 8:51 PM, ISKI1@... wrote:

> If you download the files from the website the titles and composer
> are displayed correctly on a disklavier and Vanbasco player.
I have not used the P-e-C files with VanBasco. However, I can tell
you that the embedded title information consists of piece name and
performer name--or as much of those names as can fit within a 32-
character limitation. There is no embedded composer information.

Regards,
PianoBench

Good morning, everyone.

On Sep 12, 2006, at 1:53 AM, Richard Kerr wrote:

>
> Not very useful without the composer.

I determined the title information that was embedded into the P-e-C  
MIDI files.

Basically, we added 2 types of MIDI messages: (1) a Yamaha System  
Exclusive message that Yamaha instruments recognize and display and  
(2) a Sequence Name Meta Event that many sequencers, keyboards, and  
other devices recognize.

In the case of #2, we were limited to 32 characters. In the case of  
Mark III and earlier Disklaviers, we were also limited to 32  
characters (i.e. two lines of 16 characters each).

With these limitations in mind, I constructed title information  
consisting of piece name and artist name. In the case of #1, I put as  
much into the 32-character allotment as I could; in the case of #2, I  
essentially did the same thing except that I formatted it so that  
piece name information appears on the first line and artist name  
appears on the second line.

In some cases, the information was so crowded that I could not  
separate words with spaces and therefore separated words by their  
initial capital letters.

Since the competition is all about the young artists, I thought it  
important to associate the performer names with each MIDI file and  
therefore gave preference to the artists instead of to the composers.

The Mark IV, of course, can show even longer piece names. However,  
the data is just in a long, System Exclusive string. The information  
is not organized by categories (such as piece name, composer name,  
date of composition, artist, etc.). In addition, you cannot see the  
complete string at one time on the Mark IV Pocket Remote; it scrolls  
by horizontally. I could have lengthened the Yamaha SysEx message and  
included the composer name after the 32nd character, but the string  
would have looked awkward. Also, adding that information would not  
have assisted the objective of many Disklavier owners to have a  
database that was searchable by piece, composer, artist, etc.

Regards,
PianoBench

I guess everyone has there own preferences but I would think the  competition 
is about the performer and not the composer.
If you are just interested in classical pieces and don't want to sort  
through several compositions of the same composer and title I would  recommend the 
following website.
_http://www.piano-midi.de/_ (http://www.piano-midi.de/) 
 
If you have a Mark IV or a PC connected to your piano the page has a nice  
lay out for choosing any composer or title you want.
 
Here are a few other nice websites.
 
_http://www.bachcentral.com/midiindexcomplete.html_ 
(http://www.bachcentral.com/midiindexcomplete.html) 
 
_http://hometown.aol.com/drlubetsky/index.html?f=fs_ 
(http://hometown.aol.com/drlubetsky/index.html?f=fs) 
 
_http://www.jacksirulnikoff.com/#midi_ (http://www.jacksirulnikoff.com/#midi) 
 
_http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/4234/enter.html_ 
(http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/4234/enter.html) 
 
 
Enjoy

Anyone even slightly serious about classical music is interested in the composition, the performer, the composer, the key in which it is written, and many other details which cannot be adequately displayed due to limitations in the dispay device itself, the MIDI file standards, and software. Knowing immediately what is being played and by whom is the very minimum of information most serious listeners need in order to fully enjoy the music. Flailing around on the Internet is not useful. This information should be embedded in the MIDI file and be fully displayable, along with other details. Most of us are knowledgable about classical music Internet resources and how to employ them, but this is not a viable alternative to having the information displayed while the piece is being played, or when one is trying to attempting to locate such a piece from thousands of others. I have resorted to the PC and an external database for this purpose, but this is not ideal arrangement. One does not take along a PC to a piano recital or a symphony concert to learn the full name of the composition to be performed, by whom it was composed, and by whom is will be performed.. This is all written down in the program handed you by the usher. The MIDI file is, or should be, the technological substitute for the written program and provide the same essential information, to be read easily on a sofa twenty feet away from the display. Anything less than that diminishes the quality of the experience of listening. Hopefully, Yamaha understands this, and over time, will address it adequately. As it stands now, what we have is as primitive as a Model T Ford!

----- Original Message -----

From: ISKI1@...

To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:46 AM

Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: piano-e-competition

I guess everyone has there own preferences but I would think the competition is about the performer and not the composer.

If you are just interested in classical pieces and don't want to sort through several compositions of the same composer and title I would recommend the following website.

http://www.piano-midi.de/

If you have a Mark IV or a PC connected to your piano the page has a nice lay out for choosing any composer or title you want.

Here are a few other nice websites.

http://www.bachcentral.com/midiindexcomplete.html

http://hometown.aol.com/drlubetsky/index.html?f=fs

http://www.jacksirulnikoff.com/#midi

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/4234/enter.html

Enjoy

Good afternoon, everyone.

Regarding the issues mentioned by Richard below:

iTunes has intriguing possibilities. When you import an audio song  
file from CD, it checks an Internet-based database for cataloguing  
information. You can accept or reject what it finds (or even update  
the database on the Internet yourself), or you can enter any of the  
cataloging data yourself directly into iTunes. There are many fields  
that cover the crucial areas of composer, title, album, performer,  
date, etc.

Unforutnately, the online database does not apply to MIDI files.  
However, you can catalog and access your MIDI files within iTunes  
very conveniently. On a Windows computer, you can even play the MIDI  
files on your Disklavier using a MIDI connection. Also, you can use  
iTunes to play PianoSoft Plus Audio CDs (assuming that you turn off  
the Sound Enhancer feature of iTunes and make the appropriate audio  
cable connections to the piano).

There are basically just 6 problems:

(1) Copy Protection
Although most MIDI files are unprotected, Yamaha-published files are  
delivered on protected media that cannot be read on your computer  
without breaking the protection (and then only on a Windows computer).

(2) Smart PianoSoft
You cannot coordinate the synchronized MIDI/CD playback of Smart  
PianoSoft recordings (i.e. MIDI recordings that synchronize with  
commercial audio recordings).

(3) Ideal Piano Playback
Ideally, piano MIDI files should be played by the Disklavier itself  
from an internal drive. Playback is more accurate in that situation.  
When the Disklavier receives MIDI data over a MIDI cable, the data is  
received serially (i.e. one event at a time) and that serial  
transmission microscopically changes the timing of MIDI events. For  
most people, however, this is unnoticeable.

(4) Lyrics
iTunes does not display MIDI lyrics on playback.

(5) MIDI Adjustments
iTunes does not give you the opportunity to adjust MIDI channels or  
other MIDI parameters.

(6) Playback of MIDI Data on a Macintosh
Remarkably, you used to be able to use iTunes to play back MIDI files  
on externally connected MIDI devices (such as a Disklavier) under OS  
9, but this feature was removed in OS X. However, you can do this on  
Windows if you know how.

To playback MIDI files from iTunes using a Disklavier connected to a  
Windows computer:

--Connect an appropriate MIDI interface and MIDI cables or USB cable  
between your computer and Disklavier, install any necessary MIDI  
drivers on the computer, and set up the Disklavier appropriately.

--Use the QuickTime control panel to designate "General MIDI" as the  
"Default MIDI Synthesizer" (instead of "QuickTime Music  
Synthesizer"). You can find this setting under the Audio tab.

--Set your system-wide MIDI output default to the MIDI connection  
that sends MIDI data to your Disklavier. The exact way that you do  
this varies slightly with various flavors of Windows:

Windows 98
Start:Settings:Control Panel:Multimedia
click the Multimedia tab in the Multimedia Properties window
choose Single Instrument
under Single Instrument, make your selection for the desired choice  
for MIDI output

Windows ME and Windows 2000
Start:Settings:Control Panel:Sounds and Multimedia Properties
click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Multimedia Properties window
under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
for MIDI output

Windows XP
Start:Control Panel
(1) if the next window is set to Categories View, click Sounds,  
Speech, and Audio Devices
then click Sounds and Audio Devices
click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties window
under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
for MIDI output

or

(2) if the next window is set to Classic View, click Sounds and Audio  
Devices
click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties window
under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired choice  
for MIDI output

Regards,
PianoBench

On Sep 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard Kerr wrote:

>
> I am highly appreciative and grateful for the efforts of those of  
> you who have taken the time to improve the visual presentation of  
> information relevant to composer, composition, performer, etc of  
> the pieces we play on our Disklaviers. Despite these noble and  
> welcome efforts, the limitations of visual display devices chosen  
> by Yamaha, the general looseness of MIDI standards, and the absence  
> of any significant interest by the computing industry in compiling  
> responsive software, leaves those of us who are serious about  
> cataloging, sorting, and selectively playing thousands of MIDI  
> files, to our own miserable devises. The result is a hodgepodge of  
> personal computer approaches for displaying musical composition and  
> performance information and for playing pieces that at best, is a  
> gross compromise.
>
> What is needed is a consortium of Yamaha, computing industry, and  
> MIDI standards representatives to address this issue by analyzing  
> and defining user needs and packing technology in a way that is  
> fully responsive, rather than the half-heatred approach we are  
> forced to contend with today. Frankly, I don't hold out much  
> expectation for that to occur. So until that utopian day arrives,  
> we are stuck with the PC and the necessity of cobbling up our own  
> software solutions to meet individual cataloging needs. The very  
> fact that this discussion is occurring should serve as adequate  
> notice to Yamaha that it should take the lead in pursuing this  
> matter of defining and responding to user needs fully. One would  
> think Yamaha would recognize that these severe limitations impede  
> the sale of their instruments. Alas, I love Yamaha and its  
> wonderful pianos, and I'll be eternally grateful for what they have  
> done to bring the Disklavier to its current high state of wonder.  
> Nevertheless, when it comes to displaying relevant information  
> fully, I only have hope for far more, with very little expectation  
> that such hope will be realized. I wonder if Yamaha has ever asked  
> users what they need?
>
> Richard H. Kerr
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George F. Litterst
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: piano-e-competition
>
> Good morning, everyone.
>
> On Sep 12, 2006, at 1:53 AM, Richard Kerr wrote:
>
> >
> > Not very useful without the composer.
>
> I determined the title information that was embedded into the P-e-C
> MIDI files.
>
> Basically, we added 2 types of MIDI messages: (1) a Yamaha System
> Exclusive message that Yamaha instruments recognize and display and
> (2) a Sequence Name Meta Event that many sequencers, keyboards, and
> other devices recognize.
>
> In the case of #2, we were limited to 32 characters. In the case of
> Mark III and earlier Disklaviers, we were also limited to 32
> characters (i.e. two lines of 16 characters each).
>
> With these limitations in mind, I constructed title information
> consisting of piece name and artist name. In the case of #1, I put as
> much into the 32-character allotment as I could; in the case of #2, I
> essentially did the same thing except that I formatted it so that
> piece name information appears on the first line and artist name
> appears on the second line.
>
> In some cases, the information was so crowded that I could not
> separate words with spaces and therefore separated words by their
> initial capital letters.
>
> Since the competition is all about the young artists, I thought it
> important to associate the performer names with each MIDI file and
> therefore gave preference to the artists instead of to the composers.
>
> The Mark IV, of course, can show even longer piece names. However,
> the data is just in a long, System Exclusive string. The information
> is not organized by categories (such as piece name, composer name,
> date of composition, artist, etc.). In addition, you cannot see the
> complete string at one time on the Mark IV Pocket Remote; it scrolls
> by horizontally. I could have lengthened the Yamaha SysEx message and
> included the composer name after the 32nd character, but the string
> would have looked awkward. Also, adding that information would not
> have assisted the objective of many Disklavier owners to have a
> database that was searchable by piece, composer, artist, etc.
>
> Regards,
> PianoBench
>
>
>

Hi

The speadsheet is not mine but I belive it is in the files section.  
I have not checked the midi files but the Eseq files are already 
titled. Best to check first befor you over write the files.

Dave



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Spencer_Lists <lists@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings david962548,
> 
> So, how do we get the ? improved spreadsheet?  I have a program 
that
> will insert the data from a properly constructed spreadsheet 
(actually
> tabbed text output from excel) into the MIDI files as keyworded 
text.
> It also inserts a composite of title performer and composer into 
the
> first track name. I also have a program that will format the title
> performer and composer information so that it displays reasonably 
in
> VanBascos Karaoke player. If I can get a full set of the files
> together (very slowly downloading them all now) and a complete
> spreadsheet, I can mark up the text in all the files or at least 
make
> the tabbed text file so that others can do so with their files. It 
is
> necessary to have an exact match in the spreadsheet to the file 
name.

> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
> 67550 Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
> Spencer@...
> http://www.spencerserolls.com
> http://www.spencerserolls.com/MidiValve.htm
> (707) 984-8356
>

Hi

"(1) Copy Protection
Although most MIDI files are unprotected, Yamaha-published files are 
delivered on protected media that cannot be read on your computer  
without breaking the protection (and then only on a Windows 
computer).

I must correct you there, Yamaha's Copy Protection can be 
unprotected by an Atari, DOS, Win95/98 Win 2000/XP or any other OS 
that can do a HEX read/write to the disk.
I was making backup copies of my disks Bill Gates was still in 
nappies !!!

Midi Magic 





--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" 
<PianoBench@...> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon, everyone.
> 
> Regarding the issues mentioned by Richard below:
> 
> iTunes has intriguing possibilities. When you import an audio 
song  
> file from CD, it checks an Internet-based database for 
cataloguing  
> information. You can accept or reject what it finds (or even 
update  
> the database on the Internet yourself), or you can enter any of 
the  
> cataloging data yourself directly into iTunes. There are many 
fields  
> that cover the crucial areas of composer, title, album, 
performer,  
> date, etc.
> 
> Unforutnately, the online database does not apply to MIDI files.  
> However, you can catalog and access your MIDI files within iTunes  
> very conveniently. On a Windows computer, you can even play the 
MIDI  
> files on your Disklavier using a MIDI connection. Also, you can 
use  
> iTunes to play PianoSoft Plus Audio CDs (assuming that you turn 
off  
> the Sound Enhancer feature of iTunes and make the appropriate 
audio  
> cable connections to the piano).
> 
> There are basically just 6 problems:
> 
> (1) Copy Protection
> Although most MIDI files are unprotected, Yamaha-published files 
are  
> delivered on protected media that cannot be read on your computer  
> without breaking the protection (and then only on a Windows 
computer).
> 
> (2) Smart PianoSoft
> You cannot coordinate the synchronized MIDI/CD playback of Smart  
> PianoSoft recordings (i.e. MIDI recordings that synchronize with  
> commercial audio recordings).
> 
> (3) Ideal Piano Playback
> Ideally, piano MIDI files should be played by the Disklavier 
itself  
> from an internal drive. Playback is more accurate in that 
situation.  
> When the Disklavier receives MIDI data over a MIDI cable, the data 
is  
> received serially (i.e. one event at a time) and that serial  
> transmission microscopically changes the timing of MIDI events. 
For  
> most people, however, this is unnoticeable.
> 
> (4) Lyrics
> iTunes does not display MIDI lyrics on playback.
> 
> (5) MIDI Adjustments
> iTunes does not give you the opportunity to adjust MIDI channels 
or  
> other MIDI parameters.
> 
> (6) Playback of MIDI Data on a Macintosh
> Remarkably, you used to be able to use iTunes to play back MIDI 
files  
> on externally connected MIDI devices (such as a Disklavier) under 
OS  
> 9, but this feature was removed in OS X. However, you can do this 
on  
> Windows if you know how.
> 
> To playback MIDI files from iTunes using a Disklavier connected to 
a  
> Windows computer:
> 
> --Connect an appropriate MIDI interface and MIDI cables or USB 
cable  
> between your computer and Disklavier, install any necessary MIDI  
> drivers on the computer, and set up the Disklavier appropriately.
> 
> --Use the QuickTime control panel to designate "General MIDI" as 
the  
> "Default MIDI Synthesizer" (instead of "QuickTime Music  
> Synthesizer"). You can find this setting under the Audio tab.
> 
> --Set your system-wide MIDI output default to the MIDI connection  
> that sends MIDI data to your Disklavier. The exact way that you 
do  
> this varies slightly with various flavors of Windows:
> 
> Windows 98
> Start:Settings:Control Panel:Multimedia
> click the Multimedia tab in the Multimedia Properties window
> choose Single Instrument
> under Single Instrument, make your selection for the desired 
choice  
> for MIDI output
> 
> Windows ME and Windows 2000
> Start:Settings:Control Panel:Sounds and Multimedia Properties
> click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Multimedia Properties window
> under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired 
choice  
> for MIDI output
> 
> Windows XP
> Start:Control Panel
> (1) if the next window is set to Categories View, click Sounds,  
> Speech, and Audio Devices
> then click Sounds and Audio Devices
> click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties 
window
> under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired 
choice  
> for MIDI output
> 
> or
> 
> (2) if the next window is set to Classic View, click Sounds and 
Audio  
> Devices
> click the Audio tab in the Sounds and Audio Devices Properties 
window
> under MIDI Music Playback, make your selection for the desired 
choice  
> for MIDI output
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard Kerr wrote:
> 
> >
> > I am highly appreciative and grateful for the efforts of those 
of  
> > you who have taken the time to improve the visual presentation 
of  
> > information relevant to composer, composition, performer, etc 
of  
> > the pieces we play on our Disklaviers. Despite these noble and  
> > welcome efforts, the limitations of visual display devices 
chosen  
> > by Yamaha, the general looseness of MIDI standards, and the 
absence  
> > of any significant interest by the computing industry in 
compiling  
> > responsive software, leaves those of us who are serious about  
> > cataloging, sorting, and selectively playing thousands of MIDI  
> > files, to our own miserable devises. The result is a hodgepodge 
of  
> > personal computer approaches for displaying musical composition 
and  
> > performance information and for playing pieces that at best, is 
a  
> > gross compromise.
> >
> > What is needed is a consortium of Yamaha, computing industry, 
and  
> > MIDI standards representatives to address this issue by 
analyzing  
> > and defining user needs and packing technology in a way that is  
> > fully responsive, rather than the half-heatred approach we are  
> > forced to contend with today. Frankly, I don't hold out much  
> > expectation for that to occur. So until that utopian day 
arrives,  
> > we are stuck with the PC and the necessity of cobbling up our 
own  
> > software solutions to meet individual cataloging needs. The 
very  
> > fact that this discussion is occurring should serve as adequate  
> > notice to Yamaha that it should take the lead in pursuing this  
> > matter of defining and responding to user needs fully. One 
would  
> > think Yamaha would recognize that these severe limitations 
impede  
> > the sale of their instruments. Alas, I love Yamaha and its  
> > wonderful pianos, and I'll be eternally grateful for what they 
have  
> > done to bring the Disklavier to its current high state of 
wonder.  
> > Nevertheless, when it comes to displaying relevant information  
> > fully, I only have hope for far more, with very little 
expectation  
> > that such hope will be realized. I wonder if Yamaha has ever 
asked  
> > users what they need?
> >
> > Richard H. Kerr
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: George F. Litterst
> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: piano-e-competition
> >
> > Good morning, everyone.
> >
> > On Sep 12, 2006, at 1:53 AM, Richard Kerr wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Not very useful without the composer.
> >
> > I determined the title information that was embedded into the P-
e-C
> > MIDI files.
> >
> > Basically, we added 2 types of MIDI messages: (1) a Yamaha System
> > Exclusive message that Yamaha instruments recognize and display 
and
> > (2) a Sequence Name Meta Event that many sequencers, keyboards, 
and
> > other devices recognize.
> >
> > In the case of #2, we were limited to 32 characters. In the case 
of
> > Mark III and earlier Disklaviers, we were also limited to 32
> > characters (i.e. two lines of 16 characters each).
> >
> > With these limitations in mind, I constructed title information
> > consisting of piece name and artist name. In the case of #1, I 
put as
> > much into the 32-character allotment as I could; in the case of 
#2, I
> > essentially did the same thing except that I formatted it so that
> > piece name information appears on the first line and artist name
> > appears on the second line.
> >
> > In some cases, the information was so crowded that I could not
> > separate words with spaces and therefore separated words by their
> > initial capital letters.
> >
> > Since the competition is all about the young artists, I thought 
it
> > important to associate the performer names with each MIDI file 
and
> > therefore gave preference to the artists instead of to the 
composers.
> >
> > The Mark IV, of course, can show even longer piece names. 
However,
> > the data is just in a long, System Exclusive string. The 
information
> > is not organized by categories (such as piece name, composer 
name,
> > date of composition, artist, etc.). In addition, you cannot see 
the
> > complete string at one time on the Mark IV Pocket Remote; it 
scrolls
> > by horizontally. I could have lengthened the Yamaha SysEx 
message and
> > included the composer name after the 32nd character, but the 
string
> > would have looked awkward. Also, adding that information would 
not

> > have assisted the objective of many Disklavier owners to have a
> > database that was searchable by piece, composer, artist, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> > PianoBench
> >
> >
> >
>