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Has anyone here ever considered changing the disklavier group over to Google groups?  The feature set at Google is now on par with Yahoo and their interface is

I should mention that one of the biggest advantages of Google is that
the emails it sends are very unobtrusive.  They just have a couple of
lines at the bottom of the message, instead of Yahoo's enormous
advertising scaffolding.

On 3/21/07, Carl Youngblood <carl@...> wrote:
> Has anyone here ever considered changing the disklavier group over to Google
> groups?  The feature set at Google is now on par with Yahoo and their
> interface is a whole lot less annoying and more customizable, in my opinion.
>  You can also take all the current subscribers and paste them into the
> Google interface in one fell swoop, so the transition doesn't need to be
> difficult.
>
> What do you guys think about the idea?
>

I actually hadn t noticed this.  Are you sure that they changed their logo for Canadian Memorial Day but not US Memorial Day?  Can you point me to a reference

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Youngblood" <carl@...> 
wrote:

Carl-Would this change give us more room to post midi files? I 
believe we are quite "squeezed" on yahoo.

>
> I should mention that one of the biggest advantages of Google is 
that
> the emails it sends are very unobtrusive.  They just have a couple 
of
> lines at the bottom of the message, instead of Yahoo's enormous
> advertising scaffolding.
> 
> On 3/21/07, Carl Youngblood <carl@...> wrote:
> > Has anyone here ever considered changing the disklavier group 
over to Google
> > groups?  The feature set at Google is now on par with Yahoo and 
their
> > interface is a whole lot less annoying and more customizable, in 
my opinion.
> >  You can also take all the current subscribers and paste them 
into the
> > Google interface in one fell swoop, so the transition doesn't 
need to be

> > difficult.
> >
> > What do you guys think about the idea?
> >
>

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Mark <MarkGMID@...> wrote:

** Wow. I love Google but did not know that about Google. I would 
like to confirm this later since last year I thought Google posted 
4th of July. 

>
> Some of us may have objections to the Google world philosophy. 
They 
> refuse to recognize the good ole US of A with any semblance of 
honor or 
> respect. They refuse to note any of our national historical 
holidays 
> like Memorial or Veterans Day. They will make their Google mast 
head 
> green for Saint Patrick's Day and recognize Canadian Memorial Day 
but 
> take a very proactive anti-American position. Is this acceptable 
to DUG 
> members?
> 
> Mark in Idaho
> 
> Carl Youngblood wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone here ever considered changing the disklavier group 
over to 
> > Google groups?  The feature set at Google is now on par with 
Yahoo and 
> > their interface is a whole lot less annoying and more 
customizable, in 
> > my opinion.  You can also take all the current subscribers and 
paste 
> > them into the Google interface in one fell swoop, so the 
transition 

> > doesn't need to be difficult.
> >
> > What do you guys think about the idea?
> >
> >
>

Some of us may have objections to the Google world philosophy. They 
refuse to recognize the good ole US of A with any semblance of honor or 
respect. They refuse to note any of our national historical holidays 
like Memorial or Veterans Day. They will make their Google mast head 
green for Saint Patrick's Day and recognize Canadian Memorial Day but 
take a very proactive anti-American position. Is this acceptable to DUG 
members?

Mark in Idaho

Carl Youngblood wrote:

>
> Has anyone here ever considered changing the disklavier group over to 
> Google groups?  The feature set at Google is now on par with Yahoo and 
> their interface is a whole lot less annoying and more customizable, in 
> my opinion.  You can also take all the current subscribers and paste 
> them into the Google interface in one fell swoop, so the transition 
> doesn't need to be difficult.
>
> What do you guys think about the idea?
>
>

Now that you mention it, Google does post the 4th of the July.  I remember seeing fireworks on that day.  I don t think the other comment is accurate.

Google gives you 100MB.  I m not sure what Yahoo does, but you can fit quite a lot of midi in 100MB, especially if you upload them as compressed zip files.

Thanks Mark.  All things considered, I still think that Google is a better (and less annoying) alternative than Yahoo, but I appreciate the insight. There is

Why not setup another additional group on Google. You then have the storage  
capacity of both. I belong to several groups now so subscribing to one more is 
 no big deal. In fact if you do not subscribe to the PianoDisc group you are  
missing out on a lot of good relative information and free stuff. 
_http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PianoDiscUser/_ 
(http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PianoDiscUser/) 
Plus it will convince you even more that you made the best choice when you  
bought a disklavier.
However PianoDisc does offer some nice products that Yamaha does not have.  
Like "Creator" a new technology that brings superstar performers and their hit  
CDs to your piano and "CD Wireless" connects a CD changer to PianoDisc 
systems. 
PianoDisc disks are just as expensive as Yamaha but they typically have  
twice as many songs.
 
Either way there is a lot of knowledge shared on both  sites.



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I agree with the comment about Yahoo 'looking the other way' and 
allowing pedophile oriented content. Here is the article about Google. 
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52947
There are other articles that parallel this report.

Mark in Idaho

Carl Youngblood wrote:

>
> I actually hadn't noticed this.  Are you sure that they changed their 
> logo for Canadian Memorial Day but not US Memorial Day?  Can you point 
> me to a reference corroborating this?  Is Yahoo any better?  They have 
> done a lot of annoying things in the past, including looking the other 
> way when they knew that their forums were being used for predatory 
> advances on minors.
>
> I think Google is a tremendous innovator and has a much nobler 
> attitude than many other US industry leaders.  They are doing a lot of 
> humanitarian work in the world as well.  And they understand that they 
> will have more success if they don't annoy their customers with crass 
> pop-up ads and huge banners all over the place, like Yahoo has done 
> and in some ways continues to do.
>
> On 3/21/07, *Mark* <MarkGMID@... 
> <mailto:MarkGMID@...>> wrote:
>
>     Some of us may have objections to the Google world philosophy. They
>     refuse to recognize the good ole US of A with any semblance of
>     honor or
>     respect. They refuse to note any of our national historical holidays
>     like Memorial or Veterans Day. They will make their Google mast head
>     green for Saint Patrick's Day and recognize Canadian Memorial Day but
>     take a very proactive anti-American position. Is this acceptable
>     to DUG
>     members?
>
>     Mark in Idaho
>
>
>
>     Carl Youngblood wrote:
>     >
>     > Has anyone here ever considered changing the disklavier group
>     over to
>     > Google groups? The feature set at Google is now on par with Yahoo
>     and
>     > their interface is a whole lot less annoying and more
>     customizable, in
>     > my opinion. You can also take all the current subscribers and paste
>     > them into the Google interface in one fell swoop, so the transition
>     > doesn't need to be difficult.
>     >
>     > What do you guys think about the idea?
>     >
>     >
>
>
>

Hi,
 
A proactive, anti-American position?  I don't understand this  objection to 
Google at all.  Here is a link that shows all the special  holiday logos that 
Google has put out since 1999.  
 
_http://www.google.com/holidaylogos.html_ 
(http://www.google.com/holidaylogos.html) 
 
I see a Canada Day, but no Canadian Memorial Day, and they haven't done  that 
in a few years.  They seem to put the United States Independence day,  
however, every year.
 
Sorry for the rant, but there may be many objections to moving or  
supplementing with Google, though this is not one of them.  
 
Gene
 

Some  of us may have objections to the Google world philosophy. They 
refuse to  recognize the good ole US of A with any semblance of honor or 
respect.  They refuse to note any of our national historical holidays 
like Memorial  or Veterans Day. They will make their Google mast head 
green for Saint  Patrick's Day and recognize Canadian Memorial Day but 
take a very  proactive anti-American position. Is this acceptable to DUG  
members?

Mark in Idaho

Carl Youngblood  wrote:
>
> Has anyone here ever considered changing the disklavier  group over to 
> Google groups? The feature set at Google is now on par  with Yahoo and 
> their interface is a whole lot less annoying and more  customizable, in 
> my opinion. You can also take all the current  subscribers and paste 
> them into the Google interface in one fell  swoop, so the transition 
> doesn't need to be  difficult.
>
> What do you guys think about the  idea?
>
> 







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Wow!.  The article that you referred to highlights attacks by Ann Coulter:
Coulter exposes liberals' 'Godless religion'  and a series of articles about  Christian ads, anti-deLay, pro Clinton etc articles.  Google took a position saying their funny icons might be construed as disrespectful of days like Memorial or Veteran Day.  Do we really want to get into political discussions about Disklaviers?  (I like the way there is "agreement" that Yahoo looks the other way in allowing pedophile content on its site!  which is worse, political positions pro or con on issues relating to the exercise of free speech  or  positions that  seem to encourage child abuse!)

I would suggest that you decide which site can work best for delivering midi music and disklavier material and go with that site if possible--and leave the discussion of free speech issues/pedophile support off the web page for disklaviers.  Sounds like there are benefits to both sites from a disklavier only point of view that make more sense to discuss.

John in Chicago




 (----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark 
  To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [disklavier] Changing to Google Groups?


  I agree with the comment about Yahoo 'looking the other way' and 
  allowing pedophile oriented content. Here is the article about Google. 
  http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52947
  There are other articles that parallel this report.

  Mark in Idaho

  Carl Youngblood wrote:

  >
  > I actually hadn't noticed this. Are you sure that they changed their 
  > logo for Canadian Memorial Day but not US Memorial Day? Can you point 
  > me to a reference corroborating this? Is Yahoo any better? They have 
  > done a lot of annoying things in the past, including looking the other 
  > way when they knew that their forums were being used for predatory 
  > advances on minors.
  >
  > I think Google is a tremendous innovator and has a much nobler 
  > attitude than many other US industry leaders. They are doing a lot of 
  > humanitarian work in the world as well. And they understand that they 
  > will have more success if they don't annoy their customers with crass 
  > pop-up ads and huge banners all over the place, like Yahoo has done 
  > and in some ways continues to do.
  >
  > On 3/21/07, *Mark* <MarkGMID@... 
  > <mailto:MarkGMID@cableone.net>> wrote:
  >
  > Some of us may have objections to the Google world philosophy. They
  > refuse to recognize the good ole US of A with any semblance of
  > honor or
  > respect. They refuse to note any of our national historical holidays
  > like Memorial or Veterans Day. They will make their Google mast head
  > green for Saint Patrick's Day and recognize Canadian Memorial Day but
  > take a very proactive anti-American position. Is this acceptable
  > to DUG
  > members?
  >
  > Mark in Idaho
  >
  >
  >
  > Carl Youngblood wrote:
  > >
  > > Has anyone here ever considered changing the disklavier group
  > over to
  > > Google groups? The feature set at Google is now on par with Yahoo
  > and
  > > their interface is a whole lot less annoying and more
  > customizable, in
  > > my opinion. You can also take all the current subscribers and paste
  > > them into the Google interface in one fell swoop, so the transition
  > > doesn't need to be difficult.
  > >
  > > What do you guys think about the idea?
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  >

Totaly agree. Enjoy your DKV! ... -- Saludos Jorge Fernández ... ___,,,^..^,,,__/----oOO---(_)---OOo--- Totaly agree. Enjoy your DKV! 2007/3/21, John Rank 

Mark wrote:
> Some of us may have objections to the Google world philosophy. They 
> refuse to recognize the good ole US of A with any semblance of honor or 
> respect. They refuse to note any of our national historical holidays 
> like Memorial or Veterans Day. They will make their Google mast head 
> green for Saint Patrick's Day and recognize Canadian Memorial Day but 
> take a very proactive anti-American position. Is this acceptable to DUG 
> members?
>
> Mark in Idaho
>   

http://www.google.com/holidaylogos.html
http://www.google.com/holidaylogos05.html (etc, back to 99

I can identify 47 directly US targeted special logos, and I think I've
been quite conservative, out of a total of 146 commemorative (excluding
the doodle series they do almost every year for "Happy Holidays" (i.e.,
Christmas for those that think the world revolves around Christianity).
Given that the rest of the logos are celebrating the births of major
scientists or artists, it seems like Google have a very strong USA bias
(which is what you would expect for a US multinational company).

From what I know (and I am probably wrong), Canada day has far more in
common a celebration such as  July 4th or St. Patrick's Day than
Veterans day.  In any case, why should Google risk upsetting a major
part of their user base by doing that anyway - when these events
essentially celebrate wars that were (and are) still questionable in
their motives.

Quite frankly I don't see what any of this has to do with DUG members
though. There are members of this forum all around the world, Yamaha is
a Japanese company and not American, and whether Google recognises US
Memorial or Veterans days is simply not relevant to the discussions.

Regardless, I really despise what Yahoo have done to their email groups,
and will welcome any move away from the system - it is *horrible* to
reply to emails now (no doubt this is the plan - get everyone onto the
web forums and it gets much easier to track your movements using cookies
installed by adverts).


James (in Gloucestershire, UK)