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Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by Jared Jenkins

My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are having it delivered in  
the coming week.  Yay!!!!!  We used the archives on this group to  
help us decide to take the plunge.  Thank you for all the info you  
have shared with this list.

My question for the group is, does anyone have experience working  
with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files and MIDI files?  On  
the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can only download disks  
on a Windows machine.  Has anyone found a workaround for this (aside  
from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp to boot Windows XP  
on a macintosh).  Also if I download MIDI files or the files from the  
files section of the User Group can I just format a disk as Windows  
format and save the files to a floppy disk on an external USB drive  
and then use that disk in the piano?

Any help on making files on the Mac work with the piano would be very  
appreciated.

Thanks,
Jared

Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by jheitzeb1

I have a Macintosh and Mark IV and I can just format the floppy disk using my Mac and 
then copy midis to the floppy disk on external USB drive and then use the piano disk in my 
Disklavier Mark IV.   I would think that it would work for your Mark III as well.

You can also buy the already formatted IBM disks and just use those as well.

I haven't bought anything from Yamaha Pianosoft site yet and know that it was because of 
the same reason you specified.  Their download software is available I believe only for the 
Windows machines.   I usually buy my disks online from Discount Piano Software place in 
Idaho, they have pretty good pricing and a good selection of disks.  They also have some 
samples to listen to online and a rating system.

There are lots of midis online and a lot of the classsical stuff is pretty good.  Also a few 
good piano roll sites and ragtime sites.  I think you will be amazed at what you can find 
online in the way of midis.  

Hope this helps,
Joan


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Jared Jenkins <jaredj74@...> wrote:
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>
> My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are having it delivered in  
> the coming week.  Yay!!!!!  We used the archives on this group to  
> help us decide to take the plunge.  Thank you for all the info you  
> have shared with this list.
> 
> My question for the group is, does anyone have experience working  
> with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files and MIDI files?  On  
> the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can only download disks  
> on a Windows machine.  Has anyone found a workaround for this (aside  
> from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp to boot Windows XP  
> on a macintosh).  Also if I download MIDI files or the files from the  
> files section of the User Group can I just format a disk as Windows  
> format and save the files to a floppy disk on an external USB drive  
> and then use that disk in the piano?
> 
> Any help on making files on the Mac work with the piano would be very  
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jared
>

Re: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by Carol Beigel

Your best bet is to just buy a dedicated Windows
machine to use for your Disklavier stuff.  A used
laptop is just fine.  Even better is one that uses an
older operating system such as Windows 98 SE or older.
Windows XP with the NTSF format is pretty standard, but
the older versions of XP that use the FAT 32 format is
better.  Computers do different things, and the day of
one for everything is over.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared Jenkins" <jaredj74@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh


> My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are having it
delivered in
> the coming week.  Yay!!!!!  We used the archives on
this group to
> help us decide to take the plunge.  Thank you for all
the info you
> have shared with this list.
>
> My question for the group is, does anyone have
experience working
> with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files and
MIDI files?  On
> the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can
only download disks
> on a Windows machine.  Has anyone found a workaround
for this (aside
> from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp to
boot Windows XP
> on a macintosh).  Also if I download MIDI files or
the files from the
> files section of the User Group can I just format a
disk as Windows
> format and save the files to a floppy disk on an
external USB drive
> and then use that disk in the piano?
>
> Any help on making files on the Mac work with the
piano would be very
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jared
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:
disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
founder and moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
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your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the
problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
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>
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Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by jheitzeb1

What a ridiculous suggestion, to have a Mac user buy a Windows machine.

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> wrote:
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>
> Your best bet is to just buy a dedicated Windows
> machine to use for your Disklavier stuff.  A used
> laptop is just fine.  Even better is one that uses an
> older operating system such as Windows 98 SE or older.
> Windows XP with the NTSF format is pretty standard, but
> the older versions of XP that use the FAT 32 format is
> better.  Computers do different things, and the day of
> one for everything is over.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared Jenkins" <jaredj74@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:56 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh
> 
> 
> > My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are having it
> delivered in
> > the coming week.  Yay!!!!!  We used the archives on
> this group to
> > help us decide to take the plunge.  Thank you for all
> the info you
> > have shared with this list.
> >
> > My question for the group is, does anyone have
> experience working
> > with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files and
> MIDI files?  On
> > the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can
> only download disks
> > on a Windows machine.  Has anyone found a workaround
> for this (aside
> > from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp to
> boot Windows XP
> > on a macintosh).  Also if I download MIDI files or
> the files from the
> > files section of the User Group can I just format a
> disk as Windows
> > format and save the files to a floppy disk on an
> external USB drive
> > and then use that disk in the piano?
> >
> > Any help on making files on the Mac work with the
> piano would be very
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jared
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> founder and moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
> getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
> your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the
> problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> email to:
> > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
> >
> > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
> blank email to:
> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
> link:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by Carol Beigel

Perhaps ridiculous, but true.  Without a Windows
operating platform, and a FAT32 ability to format
floppy disks, you are dead in the water to be able to
use any of the Disklavier utilities that are free on
the website.  You will find out soon enough for
yourself.  Macs and Disklaviers are not ideally suited
to each other.  The new Mark IV Dislkaviers use a Lynux
platform.  You asked - we told you!  You really need a
PC to use the utilities on this website.

Carol

----- Original Message -----
From: "jheitzeb1" <jheitzeb1@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and
Macintosh


> What a ridiculous suggestion, to have a Mac user buy
a Windows machine.
>
> Joan
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel"
<thecarolb@...> wrote:
> >
> > Your best bet is to just buy a dedicated Windows
> > machine to use for your Disklavier stuff.  A used
> > laptop is just fine.  Even better is one that uses
an
> > older operating system such as Windows 98 SE or
older.
> > Windows XP with the NTSF format is pretty standard,
but
> > the older versions of XP that use the FAT 32 format
is
> > better.  Computers do different things, and the day
of
> > one for everything is over.
> >
> > Carol Beigel
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jared Jenkins" <jaredj74@...>
> > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:56 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and
Macintosh
> >
> >
> > > My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are
having it
> > delivered in
> > > the coming week.  Yay!!!!!  We used the archives
on
> > this group to
> > > help us decide to take the plunge.  Thank you for
all
> > the info you
> > > have shared with this list.
> > >
> > > My question for the group is, does anyone have
> > experience working
> > > with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files
and
> > MIDI files?  On
> > > the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can
> > only download disks
> > > on a Windows machine.  Has anyone found a
workaround
> > for this (aside
> > > from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp
to
> > boot Windows XP
> > > on a macintosh).  Also if I download MIDI files
or
> > the files from the
> > > files section of the User Group can I just format
a
> > disk as Windows
> > > format and save the files to a floppy disk on an
> > external USB drive
> > > and then use that disk in the piano?
> > >
> > > Any help on making files on the Mac work with the
> > piano would be very
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jared
> > >
> > >
> > > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> > disklavier@...
> > >
> > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the
group's
> > founder and moderator, send it to:
> > > disklavier-owner@...
> > >
> > > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> > >
> > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you
are
> > getting too much mail, go the the web site and
change
> > your email delivery option instead.  That will fix
the
> > problem, while maintaining your access to the
group.
> > If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> > email to:
> > > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
> > >
> > > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
> > blank email to:
> > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
> > link:
> > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:
disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
founder and moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the
problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>
> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
blank email to:
> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
link:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by Mike Kline

Not ridiculous at all.
Disklavier owners have quite an investment in their piano. Most of the existing computer software that assist owners in manipulating the music files are old DOS based, earlier Windows based or current Windows based programs.
Carol is one of the most competent and talented Disklavier technicians in this country and a tremendous asset to the community. What she says comes form experience and expertise that most of us will never have.
Carol is a true asset and everyone should keep her web site in mind whenever a question on Disklavier arises.at www.carolrpt.com
-Mike Kline-
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----- Original Message -----
From: jheitzeb1
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

What a ridiculous suggestion, to have a Mac user buy a Windows machine.

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" ..> wrote:
>
> Your best bet is to just buy a dedicated Windows
> machine to use for your Disklavier stuff. A used
> laptop is just fine. Even better is one that uses an
> older operating system such as Windows 98 SE or older.
> Windows XP with the NTSF format is pretty standard, but
> the older versions of XP that use the FAT 32 format is
> better. Computers do different things, and the day of
> one for everything is over.
>
> Carol Beigel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared Jenkins" .>;
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:56 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh
>
>
> > My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are having it
> delivered in
> > the coming week. Yay!!!!! We used the archives on
> this group to
> > help us decide to take the plunge. Thank you for all
> the info you
> >; have shared with this list.
> >
> > My question for the group is, does anyone have
> experience working
> > with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files and
> MIDI files? On
> > the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can
> only download disks
> > on a Windows machine. Has anyone found a workaround
> for this (aside
> > from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp to
> boot Windows XP
> > on a macintosh). Also if I download MIDI files or
> the files from the
> > files section of the User Group can I just format a
> disk as Windows
> > format and save the files to a floppy disk on an
> external USB drive
> > and then use that disk in the piano?
> >
> > Any help on making files on the Mac work with the
> piano would be very
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jared
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> founder and moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
> getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
> your email delivery option instead. That will fix the
> problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> email to:
> > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
> >
> > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a
> blank email to:
> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
> link:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings jheitzeb1,

I prefer to drive my vintage Mercedes everywhere but when I need to
dig a ditch, I drive the backhoe.

Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 9:03:03 AM, you wrote:
> What a ridiculous suggestion, to have a Mac user buy a Windows machine.

> Joan

-- 
Best regards,
Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
http://www.spencerserolls.com/MidiValve.htm
(707) 984-8356

Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by rb3232@gmail.com

Thats the best advice yet!
----- Original Message ----- 
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From: "Spencer_Lists" <lists@...>
To: "jheitzeb1" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh


> Greetings jheitzeb1,
>
> I prefer to drive my vintage Mercedes everywhere but when I need to
> dig a ditch, I drive the backhoe.
>
> Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 9:03:03 AM, you wrote:
>> What a ridiculous suggestion, to have a Mac user buy a Windows machine.
>
>> Joan
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Spencer_Lists Chase        mailto:lists@...
> 67550 Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville,  CA 95542    Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454    UPS only.
> Spencer@...
> http://www.spencerserolls.com
> http://www.spencerserolls.com/MidiValve.htm
> (707) 984-8356
>
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
> moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, 
> go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That 
> will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you 
> insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>
> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-06 by Buddhika Wije

I cant agree more.

We need one like her here in Australia.

BUDD

From: "Mike Kline"
Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
To:
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:37:42 -0400

Not ridiculous at all.�
Disklavier owners have quite an investment in their piano. Most of the existing computer software that assist owners in manipulating the music files�are old DOS based, earlier Windows based or current Windows based programs.
Carol is one of the most competent and talented Disklavier technicians in this country and a tremendous asset to the community.� What she says comes form experience and expertise that most of us will never have.
Carol is a true asset and everyone should keep her web site in mind whenever a question on Disklavier arises.at� www.carolrpt.com
-Mike Kline-
----- Original Message -----
From: jheitzeb1
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

What a ridiculous suggestion, to have a Mac user buy a Windows machine.

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" ..> wrote:
>
> Your best bet is to just buy a dedicated Windows
> machine to use for your Disklavier stuff. A used
> laptop is just fine. Even better is one that uses an
> older operating system such as Windows 98 SE or older.
> Windows XP with the NTSF format is pretty standard, but
> the older versions of XP that use the FAT 32 format is
> better. Computers do different things, and the day of
> one for everything is over.
>
> Carol Beigel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared Jenkins" .>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:56 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh
>
>
> > My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are having it
> delivered in
> > the coming week. Yay!!!!! We used the archives on
> this group to
> > help us decide to take the plunge. Thank you for all
> the info you
> > have shared with this list.
> >
> > My question for the group is, does anyone have
> experience working
> > with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files and
> MIDI files? On
> > the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can
> only download disks
> > on a Windows machine. Has anyone found a workaround
> for this (aside
> > from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp to
> boot Windows XP
> > on a macintosh). Also if I download MIDI files or
> the files from the
> > files section of the User Group can I just format a
> disk as Windows
> > format and save the files to a floppy disk on an
> external USB drive
> > and then use that disk in the piano?
> >
> > Any help on making files on the Mac work with the
> piano would be very
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jared
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> founder and moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
> getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
> your email delivery option instead. That will fix the
> problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> email to:
> > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
> >
> > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a
> blank email to:
> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
> link:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>



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Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by Gene Kennon

If you have an Intel Mac, bootcamp is free and will be incorporated in the next OS version. Online are many offers of official XP for under $100, much cheaper than buying a used PC (generally), though you\u2019ll still need to buy a diskette drive for about $39. Works fine for me (MacBook Pro owner), though we also have 2 PC variants (Dell laptop, Dell desktop, and Sony laptop) in the house.

Regards,
Gene


On 6/6/07 3:41 PM, "Buddhika Wije" wrote:





I cant agree more.

We need one like her here in Australia.

BUDD

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From: "Mike Kline"
Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
To:
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:37:42 -0400

Not ridiculous at all.

Disklavier owners have quite an investment in their piano. Most of the existing computer software that assist owners in manipulating the music files are old DOS based, earlier Windows based or current Windows based programs.

Carol is one of the most competent and talented Disklavier technicians in this country and a tremendous asset to the community. What she says comes form experience and expertise that most of us will never have.

Carol is a true asset and everyone should keep her web site in mind whenever a question on Disklavier arises.at www.carolrpt.com

-Mike Kline-



----- Original Message -----
From: jheitzeb1
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

What a ridiculous suggestion, to have a Mac user buy a Windows machine.

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" >
> Your best bet is to just buy a dedicated Windows
> machine to use for your Disklavier stuff. A used
> laptop is just fine. Even better is one that uses an
> older operating system such as Windows 98 SE or older.
> Windows XP with the NTSF format is pretty standard, but
> the older versions of XP that use the FAT 32 format is
> better. Computers do different things, and the day of
> one for everything is over.
>
> Carol Beigel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared Jenkins"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:56 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh
>
>
> > My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are having it
> delivered in
> > the coming week. Yay!!!!! We used the archives on
> this group to
> > help us decide to take the plunge. Thank you for all
> the info you
> > have shared with this list.
> >
> > My question for the group is, does anyone have
> experience working
> > with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files and
> MIDI files? On
> > the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can
> only download disks
> > on a Windows machine. Has anyone found a workaround
> for this (aside
> > from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp to
> boot Windows XP
> > on a macintosh). Also if I download MIDI files or
> the files from the
> > files section of the User Group can I just format a
> disk as Windows
> > format and save the files to a floppy disk on an
> external USB drive
> >; and then use that disk in the piano?
> >
> > Any help on making files on the Mac work with the
> piano would be very
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jared
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> founder and moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> >; To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
> getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
> your email delivery option instead. That will fix the
> problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> email to:
> > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
> >
> > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a
> blank email to:
> > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
> link:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>




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Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by Matthew Walworth

What is ridiculous is that Yamaha makes the Cadillac of pianos and  
requires the Volkswagon of computers to interact with it. Joan is  
absolutely correct that, while arguably necessary, the suggestion  
will strike any Mac user as ridiculous.

...matthew...
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Carol Beigel wrote:

> Perhaps ridiculous, but true.  Without a Windows
> operating platform, and a FAT32 ability to format
> floppy disks, you are dead in the water to be able to
> use any of the Disklavier utilities that are free on
> the website.  You will find out soon enough for
> yourself.  Macs and Disklaviers are not ideally suited
> to each other.  The new Mark IV Dislkaviers use a Lynux
> platform.  You asked - we told you!  You really need a
> PC to use the utilities on this website.
>
> Carol
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jheitzeb1" <jheitzeb1@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:03 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and
> Macintosh
>
>
>> What a ridiculous suggestion, to have a Mac user buy
> a Windows machine.
>>
>> Joan
>>
>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel"
> <thecarolb@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Your best bet is to just buy a dedicated Windows
>>> machine to use for your Disklavier stuff.  A used
>>> laptop is just fine.  Even better is one that uses
> an
>>> older operating system such as Windows 98 SE or
> older.
>>> Windows XP with the NTSF format is pretty standard,
> but
>>> the older versions of XP that use the FAT 32 format
> is
>>> better.  Computers do different things, and the day
> of
>>> one for everything is over.
>>>
>>> Carol Beigel
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jared Jenkins" <jaredj74@...>
>>> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:56 PM
>>> Subject: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and
> Macintosh
>>>
>>>
>>>> My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are
> having it
>>> delivered in
>>>> the coming week.  Yay!!!!!  We used the archives
> on
>>> this group to
>>>> help us decide to take the plunge.  Thank you for
> all
>>> the info you
>>>> have shared with this list.
>>>>
>>>> My question for the group is, does anyone have
>>> experience working
>>>> with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files
> and
>>> MIDI files?  On
>>>> the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can
>>> only download disks
>>>> on a Windows machine.  Has anyone found a
> workaround
>>> for this (aside
>>>> from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp
> to
>>> boot Windows XP
>>>> on a macintosh).  Also if I download MIDI files
> or
>>> the files from the
>>>> files section of the User Group can I just format
> a
>>> disk as Windows
>>>> format and save the files to a floppy disk on an
>>> external USB drive
>>>> and then use that disk in the piano?
>>>>
>>>> Any help on making files on the Mac work with the
>>> piano would be very
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jared
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To Post a message to the group, send it to:
>>> disklavier@...
>>>>
>>>> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the
> group's
>>> founder and moderator, send it to:
>>>> disklavier-owner@...
>>>>
>>>> To reach our group's web site go to:
>>>> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>>>>
>>>> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>>>> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you
> are
>>> getting too much mail, go the the web site and
> change
>>> your email delivery option instead.  That will fix
> the
>>> problem, while maintaining your access to the
> group.
>>> If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
>>> email to:
>>>> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>>>>
>>>> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
>>> blank email to:
>>>> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
>>> link:
>>>> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
>>
>> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> founder and moderator, send it to:
>> disklavier-owner@...
>>
>> To reach our group's web site go to:
>> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>>
>> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
> getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
> your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the
> problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> email to:
>> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>>
>> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
> blank email to:
>> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
> link:
>> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:    
> disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and  
> moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too  
> much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery  
> option instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your  
> access to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a  
> blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>
> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by Mark Fontana

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Matthew Walworth wrote:

> What is ridiculous is that Yamaha makes the Cadillac of pianos and  
> requires the Volkswagon of computers to interact with it. Joan is  
> absolutely correct that, while arguably necessary, the suggestion  
> will strike any Mac user as ridiculous.


Maybe I'm confused here, but I don't think Yamaha is forcing anyone to
use a PC.  They don't provide much in the way of tools to enhance the
Disklavier from EITHER platform, do they? The existing Windows tools
mentioned on this forum like Root-A-Ripper and dkvutils were written by
fellow Disklavier owners or enthusiasts, and most of them are fairly
old.  The Giebler utilities for Disklavier are SO old (early 1990s) that
the 8 MHz Mac Classic (running System 6 or System 7) was the current
model of Macintosh at the time!

One could obviate the need for a Windows PC by writing (or making it
worth someone's time to write) some Mac software to perform the same
functions as these PC utilities.  I have to believe that formatting DOS
floppies and reading and writing them via low-level disk access must be
possible on a Mac, although you might need to run the app as a
privileged user to do it.  Linux users can access DOS diskettes (even
without mounting them) using a set of command-line utilities called
"mtools" - perhaps this could be ported to the Mac platform, if it
hasn't been already?  This would give Mac users the ability to format
and transfer files to and from Disklavier floppies.  Command line
utilities to convert to and from ESEQ format would be fairly
straightforward to write.  The CD encoding software MID2PianoCD could be
ported fairly readily by someone familiar with Mac GUI programming.

I'm willing to help with this effort, but I don't have a Mac available
for development yet, and it's not my primary day-to-day platform.  But
as Vista appears to be the most obnoxious and bloated version of Windows
yet, I'm giving serious consideration to joining the Mac camp within the
next year or two when Microsoft begins forcing people to upgrade from
XP.  I should probably buy a Mac mini to play with in the meantime...

Mark Fontana

Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by Gene Kennon

For Mac users or those that want to be, 1) both iTunes (free) and
SoundConverter will convert from midi to WAV (CD), 2)  for a $39 drive, Macs
can read PC diskettes/files (midi), 3) the Disklavier will format diskettes
in the proper format, 4) Bootcamp (free from Apple) will
write/transfer/format files to the diskettes, 5) mtool is available in the
public domain and on Mac download forums, and 6) ESEQ conversion for Mac is
available at http://download.goo.ne.jp/software/category/mac/art/music/midi/

However, a good low-level programmer could make one app, or convert the
existing group PC utilites, and obviate the above options.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On 6/6/07 10:52 PM, "Mark Fontana" <mfontana@...> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Matthew Walworth wrote:
> 
>> > What is ridiculous is that Yamaha makes the Cadillac of pianos and
>> > requires the Volkswagon of computers to interact with it. Joan is
>> > absolutely correct that, while arguably necessary, the suggestion
>> > will strike any Mac user as ridiculous.
> 
> Maybe I'm confused here, but I don't think Yamaha is forcing anyone to
> use a PC.  They don't provide much in the way of tools to enhance the
> Disklavier from EITHER platform, do they? The existing Windows tools
> mentioned on this forum like Root-A-Ripper and dkvutils were written by
> fellow Disklavier owners or enthusiasts, and most of them are fairly
> old.  The Giebler utilities for Disklavier are SO old (early 1990s) that
> the 8 MHz Mac Classic (running System 6 or System 7) was the current
> model of Macintosh at the time!
> 
> One could obviate the need for a Windows PC by writing (or making it
> worth someone's time to write) some Mac software to perform the same
> functions as these PC utilities.  I have to believe that formatting DOS
> floppies and reading and writing them via low-level disk access must be
> possible on a Mac, although you might need to run the app as a
> privileged user to do it.  Linux users can access DOS diskettes (even
> without mounting them) using a set of command-line utilities called
> "mtools" - perhaps this could be ported to the Mac platform, if it
> hasn't been already?  This would give Mac users the ability to format
> and transfer files to and from Disklavier floppies.  Command line
> utilities to convert to and from ESEQ format would be fairly
> straightforward to write.  The CD encoding software MID2PianoCD could be
> ported fairly readily by someone familiar with Mac GUI programming.
> 
> I'm willing to help with this effort, but I don't have a Mac available
> for development yet, and it's not my primary day-to-day platform.  But
> as Vista appears to be the most obnoxious and bloated version of Windows
> yet, I'm giving serious consideration to joining the Mac camp within the
> next year or two when Microsoft begins forcing people to upgrade from
> XP.  I should probably buy a Mac mini to play with in the meantime...
> 
> Mark Fontana
> 
>  
>

Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by jheitzeb1

Thanks, Gene for great link to midi software for Mac.  I didn't mean to start a PC/Mac war, 
but just felt that it might not be necessary to purchase a PC to transfer midi files to a PC 
formatted disk for use with a disklavier.   

I am assuming the Mark III reads midi files as does the Mark IV.   I have found a program 
for the Mac that allows me to edit the filenames of midis on my Mac, as well as convert 
midis from SMF 0 or SMF 1.  This software is Midiswing and works on the newer OS X Mac 
system.   Editting title of song using the Midiswing software can sometimes be easier than 
doing it on the pda or tablet available on the Mark IV.  

I do have a very old PC that I used to use when converting midis for an old piano using 
Pianodisc format using Giebler software.  But as it was not connected to internet, I had to 
transfer the midis from Mac via CD's to the old PC and then convert to correct format for 
the the Piano using pianodisc floppies.  It was a pain and now find the direct transfer via 
Mac option on Disklavier IV "To/From PC" wirelessly a nice feature.  

I plan to try the direct connection of Disklavier Mark IV  via ethernet cable  to my Mac 
Portable with "sharing internet" enabled on that Mac to see if I can access the streaming 
radio midis.  Not sure if this feature will be viable and will be dependent on monthly 
service fee.   

The Giebler software however old it is, was still an easy program to use in making midis 
useable by the pianodisc systems and I found it invaluable when I owned a piano with 
pianodisc format.  

Joan


.--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Gene Kennon <gkennon@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> For Mac users or those that want to be, 1) both iTunes (free) and
> SoundConverter will convert from midi to WAV (CD), 2)  for a $39 drive, Macs
> can read PC diskettes/files (midi), 3) the Disklavier will format diskettes
> in the proper format, 4) Bootcamp (free from Apple) will
> write/transfer/format files to the diskettes, 5) mtool is available in the
> public domain and on Mac download forums, and 6) ESEQ conversion for Mac is
> available at http://download.goo.ne.jp/software/category/mac/art/music/midi/
> 
> However, a good low-level programmer could make one app, or convert the
> existing group PC utilites, and obviate the above options.
> 
> 
> On 6/6/07 10:52 PM, "Mark Fontana" <mfontana@...> wrote:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Matthew Walworth wrote:
> > 
> >> > What is ridiculous is that Yamaha makes the Cadillac of pianos and
> >> > requires the Volkswagon of computers to interact with it. Joan is
> >> > absolutely correct that, while arguably necessary, the suggestion
> >> > will strike any Mac user as ridiculous.
> > 
> > Maybe I'm confused here, but I don't think Yamaha is forcing anyone to
> > use a PC.  They don't provide much in the way of tools to enhance the
> > Disklavier from EITHER platform, do they? The existing Windows tools
> > mentioned on this forum like Root-A-Ripper and dkvutils were written by
> > fellow Disklavier owners or enthusiasts, and most of them are fairly
> > old.  The Giebler utilities for Disklavier are SO old (early 1990s) that
> > the 8 MHz Mac Classic (running System 6 or System 7) was the current
> > model of Macintosh at the time!
> > 
> > One could obviate the need for a Windows PC by writing (or making it
> > worth someone's time to write) some Mac software to perform the same
> > functions as these PC utilities.  I have to believe that formatting DOS
> > floppies and reading and writing them via low-level disk access must be
> > possible on a Mac, although you might need to run the app as a
> > privileged user to do it.  Linux users can access DOS diskettes (even
> > without mounting them) using a set of command-line utilities called
> > "mtools" - perhaps this could be ported to the Mac platform, if it
> > hasn't been already?  This would give Mac users the ability to format
> > and transfer files to and from Disklavier floppies.  Command line
> > utilities to convert to and from ESEQ format would be fairly
> > straightforward to write.  The CD encoding software MID2PianoCD could be
> > ported fairly readily by someone familiar with Mac GUI programming.
> > 
> > I'm willing to help with this effort, but I don't have a Mac available
> > for development yet, and it's not my primary day-to-day platform.  But
> > as Vista appears to be the most obnoxious and bloated version of Windows
> > yet, I'm giving serious consideration to joining the Mac camp within the
> > next year or two when Microsoft begins forcing people to upgrade from
> > XP.  I should probably buy a Mac mini to play with in the meantime...
> > 
> > Mark Fontana
> > 
> >  
> >
>

Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by jheitzeb1

The site you mentioned seems to be in Japanese.  Will have to have my son who speaks 
and writes Japanese fluently to direct me to the right software to use for the ESEQ 
conversion.  Luckily I have that asset available.

Joan


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Gene Kennon <gkennon@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> For Mac users or those that want to be, 1) both iTunes (free) and
> SoundConverter will convert from midi to WAV (CD), 2)  for a $39 drive, Macs
> can read PC diskettes/files (midi), 3) the Disklavier will format diskettes
> in the proper format, 4) Bootcamp (free from Apple) will
> write/transfer/format files to the diskettes, 5) mtool is available in the
> public domain and on Mac download forums, and 6) ESEQ conversion for Mac is
> available at http://download.goo.ne.jp/software/category/mac/art/music/midi/
> 
> However, a good low-level programmer could make one app, or convert the
> existing group PC utilites, and obviate the above options.
> 
> 
> On 6/6/07 10:52 PM, "Mark Fontana" <mfontana@...> wrote:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Matthew Walworth wrote:
> > 
> >> > What is ridiculous is that Yamaha makes the Cadillac of pianos and
> >> > requires the Volkswagon of computers to interact with it. Joan is
> >> > absolutely correct that, while arguably necessary, the suggestion
> >> > will strike any Mac user as ridiculous.
> > 
> > Maybe I'm confused here, but I don't think Yamaha is forcing anyone to
> > use a PC.  They don't provide much in the way of tools to enhance the
> > Disklavier from EITHER platform, do they? The existing Windows tools
> > mentioned on this forum like Root-A-Ripper and dkvutils were written by
> > fellow Disklavier owners or enthusiasts, and most of them are fairly
> > old.  The Giebler utilities for Disklavier are SO old (early 1990s) that
> > the 8 MHz Mac Classic (running System 6 or System 7) was the current
> > model of Macintosh at the time!
> > 
> > One could obviate the need for a Windows PC by writing (or making it
> > worth someone's time to write) some Mac software to perform the same
> > functions as these PC utilities.  I have to believe that formatting DOS
> > floppies and reading and writing them via low-level disk access must be
> > possible on a Mac, although you might need to run the app as a
> > privileged user to do it.  Linux users can access DOS diskettes (even
> > without mounting them) using a set of command-line utilities called
> > "mtools" - perhaps this could be ported to the Mac platform, if it
> > hasn't been already?  This would give Mac users the ability to format
> > and transfer files to and from Disklavier floppies.  Command line
> > utilities to convert to and from ESEQ format would be fairly
> > straightforward to write.  The CD encoding software MID2PianoCD could be
> > ported fairly readily by someone familiar with Mac GUI programming.
> > 
> > I'm willing to help with this effort, but I don't have a Mac available
> > for development yet, and it's not my primary day-to-day platform.  But
> > as Vista appears to be the most obnoxious and bloated version of Windows
> > yet, I'm giving serious consideration to joining the Mac camp within the
> > next year or two when Microsoft begins forcing people to upgrade from
> > XP.  I should probably buy a Mac mini to play with in the meantime...
> > 
> > Mark Fontana
> > 
> >  
> >
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by Gene Kennon

You\u2019re welcome, Joan. I\u2019ve had a dual use (PC/Mac) home (and businesses) for years and, while highly opinionated, avoid the wars and just seek the solutions ... Much as most would prefer in our elected officials.

Thanks for the pointer on Midiswing. I have a Mark III DC3A, but don\u2019t know if it reads midi as does the Mark IV. Carol and others can better respond to that. I do wish the III had some wireless capability that I could use with Apple\u2019s Airport Express (which I pipe music from the Mac to the built-in Bose system throughout the house and patio.

On another note to others regarding sound reduction, I bought upper and lower foam baffles from www.edwardsstringcovers.com which are extremely effective. The piano sits in a 24\u2019 foyer with marble floors.

Gene


On 6/7/07 8:04 AM, "jheitzeb1" wrote:

Show quoted textHide quoted text




Thanks, Gene for great link to midi software for Mac. I didn't mean to start a PC/Mac war,
but just felt that it might not be necessary to purchase a PC to transfer midi files to a PC
formatted disk for use with a disklavier.

I am assuming the Mark III reads midi files as does the Mark IV. I have found a program
for the Mac that allows me to edit the filenames of midis on my Mac, as well as convert
midis from SMF 0 or SMF 1. This software is Midiswing and works on the newer OS X Mac
system. Editting title of song using the Midiswing software can sometimes be easier than
doing it on the pda or tablet available on the Mark IV.

I do have a very old PC that I used to use when converting midis for an old piano using
Pianodisc format using Giebler software. But as it was not connected to internet, I had to
transfer the midis from Mac via CD's to the old PC and then convert to correct format for
the the Piano using pianodisc floppies. It was a pain and now find the direct transfer via
Mac option on Disklavier IV "To/From PC" wirelessly a nice feature.

I plan to try the direct connection of Disklavier Mark IV via ethernet cable to my Mac
Portable with "sharing internet" enabled on that Mac to see if I can access the streaming
radio midis. Not sure if this feature will be viable and will be dependent on monthly
service fee.

The Giebler software however old it is, was still an easy program to use in making midis
useable by the pianodisc systems and I found it invaluable when I owned a piano with
pianodisc format.

Joan

.--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com , Gene Kennon wrote:
>
> For Mac users or those that want to be, 1) both iTunes (free) and
> SoundConverter will convert from midi to WAV (CD), 2) for a $39 drive, Macs
> can read PC diskettes/files (midi), 3) the Disklavier will format diskettes
> in the proper format, 4) Bootcamp (free from Apple) will
> write/transfer/format files to the diskettes, 5) mtool is available in the
> public domain and on Mac download forums, and 6) ESEQ conversion for Mac is
> available at
http://download.goo.ne.jp/software/category/mac/art/music/midi/
>
> However, a good low-level programmer could make one app, or convert the
> existing group PC utilites, and obviate the above options.
>
>
> On 6/6/07 10:52 PM, "Mark Fontana" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
>; >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Matthew Walworth wrote:
> >
> >> > What is ridiculous is that Yamaha makes the Cadillac of pianos and
> >> > requires the Volkswagon of computers to interact with it. Joan is
> >> > absolutely correct that, while arguably necessary, the suggestion
> >> > will strike any Mac user as ridiculous.
> >
> > Maybe I'm confused here, but I don't think Yamaha is forcing anyone to
> > use a PC. They don't provide much in the way of tools to enhance the
> > Disklavier from EITHER platform, do they? The existing Windows tools
> > mentioned on this forum like Root-A-Ripper and dkvutils were written by
> > fellow Disklavier owners or enthusiasts, and most of them are fairly
> > old. The Giebler utilities for Disklavier are SO old (early 1990s) that
> > the 8 MHz Mac Classic (running System 6 or System 7) was the current
> > model of Macintosh at the time!
> >
> > One could obviate the need for a Windows PC by writing (or making it
> > worth someone's time to write) some Mac software to perform the same
> > functions as these PC utilities. I have to believe that formatting DOS
> > floppies and reading and writing them via low-level disk access must be
> > possible on a Mac, although you might need to run the app as a
> > privileged user to do it. Linux users can access DOS diskettes (even
> > without mounting them) using a set of command-line utilities called
> > "mtools" - perhaps this could be ported to the Mac platform, if it
> > hasn't been already? This would give Mac users the ability to format
> > and transfer files to and from Disklavier floppies. Command line
> > utilities to convert to and from ESEQ format would be fairly
> > straightforward to write. The CD encoding software MID2PianoCD could be
> > ported fairly readily by someone familiar with Mac GUI programming.
> >
> > I'm willing to help with this effort, but I don't have a Mac available
> > for development yet, and it's not my primary day-to-day platform. But
> > as Vista appears to be the most obnoxious and bloated version of Windows
> > yet, I'm giving serious consideration to joining the Mac camp within the
> > next year or two when Microsoft begins forcing people to upgrade from
> > XP. I should probably buy a Mac mini to play with in the meantime...
> >
> > Mark Fontana
> >
> >
> >
>









Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by Matthew Walworth

There is no way that I know of for someone with a non-intel mac to  
purchase downloadable pianosoft titles and make a useable disk out  
them. I'd love to know if someone has figured out how.

...matthew...
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Jun 6, 2007, at 11:52 PM, Mark Fontana wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Matthew Walworth wrote:
>
>> What is ridiculous is that Yamaha makes the Cadillac of pianos and
>> requires the Volkswagon of computers to interact with it. Joan is
>> absolutely correct that, while arguably necessary, the suggestion
>> will strike any Mac user as ridiculous.
>
>
> Maybe I'm confused here, but I don't think Yamaha is forcing anyone to
> use a PC.  They don't provide much in the way of tools to enhance the
> Disklavier from EITHER platform, do they? The existing Windows tools
> mentioned on this forum like Root-A-Ripper and dkvutils were  
> written by
> fellow Disklavier owners or enthusiasts, and most of them are fairly
> old.  The Giebler utilities for Disklavier are SO old (early 1990s)  
> that
> the 8 MHz Mac Classic (running System 6 or System 7) was the current
> model of Macintosh at the time!
>
> One could obviate the need for a Windows PC by writing (or making it
> worth someone's time to write) some Mac software to perform the same
> functions as these PC utilities.  I have to believe that formatting  
> DOS
> floppies and reading and writing them via low-level disk access  
> must be
> possible on a Mac, although you might need to run the app as a
> privileged user to do it.  Linux users can access DOS diskettes (even
> without mounting them) using a set of command-line utilities called
> "mtools" - perhaps this could be ported to the Mac platform, if it
> hasn't been already?  This would give Mac users the ability to format
> and transfer files to and from Disklavier floppies.  Command line
> utilities to convert to and from ESEQ format would be fairly
> straightforward to write.  The CD encoding software MID2PianoCD  
> could be
> ported fairly readily by someone familiar with Mac GUI programming.
>
> I'm willing to help with this effort, but I don't have a Mac available
> for development yet, and it's not my primary day-to-day platform.  But
> as Vista appears to be the most obnoxious and bloated version of  
> Windows
> yet, I'm giving serious consideration to joining the Mac camp  
> within the
> next year or two when Microsoft begins forcing people to upgrade from
> XP.  I should probably buy a Mac mini to play with in the meantime...
>
> Mark Fontana
>
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Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by ISKI1@aol.com

Gene
As discussed earlier I also have a Mark III. I have thousands of Midi files  
and Yamaha files and I found it overwhelming to organize that many floppy 
disks.  I bought a used laptop that I keep connected to the piano with a midi to  
usb cable.
The laptop is connected to my wireless home network so my piano then has  
complete access to the Internet. If I find a midi file anywhere on the Internet  
I can play it immediately on the piano. If I like how it sounds I save it to 
my  harddrive.
I use both VanBassco player and Yamplayer to build play lists with my  
favorite songs from either Yamaha disks or my collection of midis. So if I don't  
like a song on a disk I don't have to listen to it. I can also select random  
play. The big advantage to these players with regard to your problem of the  
piano being too load is that they have a volume control that lets you reduce the  
volume lower than the Mark III volume control.
If I have a party I can load enough songs to last the evening and I can set  
the volume to a low enough level that you can have a conversation.
Also if you have karaoke midi files the lyrics are displayed on the screen.  
Great for Christmas parties or children songs.
 
I also have some older PG. Music that has their own midi players that I can  
play the piano directly from the PC.
I also have PG music Power tracks and Cakewalk on this laptop and can mix  my 
own MP3 or Wav files with midi files.
So for about $400 I have a lot of the features that a Mark IV has and  
several that are not available on the Mark IV.
 
So after reading about all the issues described in the emails over the last  
few days it seems like this is a very inexpensive solution. Glad now that I 
did  not pay the extra $10,000 for the Mark IV.
However if someone can tell me how to play my library of PianoSoft Smart  
disks and matching CD's from my laptop I would be a very happy camper.
 
 
Alan
 



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Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by Gene Kennon

Very useful info. Thanks, Alan!
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On 6/7/07 11:43 AM, "ISKI1@..." <ISKI1@...> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> Gene
> As discussed earlier I also have a Mark III. I have thousands of Midi files
> and Yamaha files and I found it overwhelming to organize that many floppy
> disks. I bought a used laptop that I keep connected to the piano with a midi
> to usb cable.
> The laptop is connected to my wireless home network so my piano then has
> complete access to the Internet. If I find a midi file anywhere on the
> Internet I can play it immediately on the piano. If I like how it sounds I
> save it to my harddrive.
> I use both VanBassco player and Yamplayer to build play lists with my favorite
> songs from either Yamaha disks or my collection of midis. So if I don't like a
> song on a disk I don't have to listen to it. I can also select random play.
> The big advantage to these players with regard to your problem of the piano
> being too load is that they have a volume control that lets you reduce the
> volume lower than the Mark III volume control.
> If I have a party I can load enough songs to last the evening and I can set
> the volume to a low enough level that you can have a conversation.
> Also if you have karaoke midi files the lyrics are displayed on the screen.
> Great for Christmas parties or children songs.
>  
> I also have some older PG. Music that has their own midi players that I can
> play the piano directly from the PC.
> I also have PG music Power tracks and Cakewalk on this laptop and can mix my
> own MP3 or Wav files with midi files.
> So for about $400 I have a lot of the features that a Mark IV has and several
> that are not available on the Mark IV.
>  
> So after reading about all the issues described in the emails over the last
> few days it seems like this is a very inexpensive solution. Glad now that I
> did not pay the extra $10,000 for the Mark IV.
> However if someone can tell me how to play my library of PianoSoft Smart disks
> and matching CD's from my laptop I would be a very happy camper.
>  
>  
> Alan
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .
>  
>

RE: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-07 by Dan O'Connor

There is software to rip the PD to midi on the computer. I have a few PD and they play as files on my laptop.

Cheers.

Dan

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ISKI1@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:43 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

Gene

As discussed earlier I also have a Mark III. I have thousands of Midi files and Yamaha files and I found it overwhelming to organize that many floppy disks. I bought a used laptop that I keep connected to the piano with a midi to usb cable.

The laptop is connected to my wireless home network so my piano then has complete access to the Internet. If I find a midi file anywhere on the Internet I can play it immediately on the piano. If I like how it sounds I save it to my harddrive.

I use both VanBassco player and Yamplayer to build play lists with my favorite songs from either Yamaha disks or my collection of midis. So if I don't like a song on a disk I don't have to listen to it. I can also select random play. The big advantage to these players with regard to your problem of the piano being too load is that they have a volume control that lets you reduce the volume lower than the Mark III volume control.

If I have a party I can load enough songs to last the evening and I can set the volume to a low enough level that you can have a conversation.

Also if you have karaoke midi files the lyrics are displayed on the screen. Great for Christmas parties or children songs.

I also have some older PG. Music that has their own midi players that I can play the piano directly from the PC.

I also have PG music Power tracks and Cakewalk on this laptop and can mix my own MP3 or Wav files with midi files.

So for about $400 I have a lot of the features that a Mark IV has and several that are not available on the Mark IV.

So after reading about all the issues described in the emails over the last few days it seems like this is a very inexpensive solution. Glad now that I did not pay the extra $10,000 for the Mark IV.

However if someone can tell me how to play my library of PianoSoft Smart disks and matching CD's from my laptop I would be a very happy camper.

Alan



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Re[2]: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-08 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings Dan,


Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:30:04 PM, you wrote:
> There is software to rip the PD to midi on the computer.  I have a
> few PD and they play as files on my laptop.
>  
> Cheers.
>  
> Dan

Is it possible to get MIDI out while playing various CDs floppies etc?
If so the MIDI could be recorded for playback from the computer.

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Re: [disklavier] Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-08 by jaredj74@mac.com

Thank you all so much for all this information. I see that this group has many people with ALOT more knowledge about working with MIDI files than I. I have found all the suggestions to be very helpful.

As some have mentioned, buying a PC would be the easiest solution, but I just can't bear the thought of bringing a PC into my all Mac house...so until i get an intelMac, I'm going to try just putting the midi files onto a Windows formatted floppy and playing them that way. I purchased a floppy drive and a bunch of floppies today and the Piano is being delivered in the morning. We can't wait to try it out!

Thanks again for all your suggestions and insight!

I am glad to be a part of this group.

Jared



On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:29 PM, JORGE FERNANDEZ wrote:


This was the original message from Jared.


I just hope after all our discussions he is not more confused than before.


In this spirit. The bottom line is that there are plenty of ways he can hook hid DKV to a Mac (with or without a PC or Ethernet)


Nevertheless, there is one issue that has not been solved for Jared.


Has the pianosoft online store a "download manager" for the Mac? comparable to the one we use for the PC


You need this one if you want to buy downloadable diskettes.

(I have used this on my PC, just once or twice)


2007/6/5, Jared Jenkins <jaredj74@mac.com>:

My wife and I just purchased a DU1A and are having it delivered in
the coming week. Yay!!!!! We used the archives on this group to
help us decide to take the plunge. Thank you for all the info you
have shared with this list.

My question for the group is, does anyone have experience working
with a Macintosh computer and the Pianosoft files and MIDI files? On
the Yamaha Pianosoft site it appears that you can only download disks
on a Windows machine. Has anyone found a workaround for this (aside
from using a program like Parallels or Boot Camp to boot Windows XP
on a macintosh). Also if I download MIDI files or the files from the
files section of the User Group can I just format a disk as Windows
format and save the files to a floppy disk on an external USB drive
and then use that disk in the piano?

Any help on making files on the Mac work with the piano would be very
appreciated.

Thanks,
Jared




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RE: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-11 by Joseph Slomka Jr

Can you tell me where to get this software?
Thanks
Joe

Dan O'Connor wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
There is software to rip the PD to midi on the computer. I have a few PD and they play as files on my laptop.
Cheers.
Dan
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ISKI1@...
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:43 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh
Gene
As discussed earlier I also have a Mark III. I have thousands of Midi files and Yamaha files and I found it overwhelming to organize that many floppy disks. I bought a used laptop that I keep connected to the piano with a midi to usb cable.
The laptop is connected to my wireless home network so my piano then has complete access to the Internet. If I find a midi file anywhere on the Internet I can play it immediately on the piano. If I like how it sounds I save it to my harddrive.
I use both VanBassco player and Yamplayer to build play lists with my favorite songs from either Yamaha disks or my collection of midis. So if I don't like a song on a disk I don't have to listen to it. I can also select random play. The big advantage to these players with regard to your problem of the piano being too load is that they have a volume control that lets you reduce the volume lower than the Mark III volume control.
If I have a party I can load enough songs to last the evening and I can set the volume to a low enough level that you can have a conversation.
Also if you have karaoke midi files the lyrics are displayed on the screen. Great for Christmas parties or children songs.
I also have some older PG. Music that has their own midi players that I can play the piano directly from the PC.
I also have PG music Power tracks and Cakewalk on this laptop and can mix my own MP3 or Wav files with midi files.
So for about $400 I have a lot of the features that a Mark IV has and several that are not available on the Mark IV.
So after reading about all the issues described in the emails over the last few days it seems like this is a very inexpensive solution. Glad now that I did not pay the extra $10,000 for the Mark IV.
However if someone can tell me how to play my library of PianoSoft Smart disks and matching CD's from my laptop I would be a very happy camper.
Alan


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Re: [disklavier] Re: Disklavier Mark III and Macintosh

2007-06-20 by Mark Fontana

I'm confused... I don't think either product linked to below is
applicable.  It sounds as if Dan just ripped a CD to an audio file (such
as MP3 format) and played that (WITHOUT converting it to a MIDI file).

Mark
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Carl Youngblood wrote:

> http://www.parallels.com/
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
> 
> On 6/11/07, Joseph Slomka Jr <mus4utoo@...> wrote:
> > 
> >   Can you tell me where to get this software?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> > 
> > *Dan O'Connor <dano77vette@...>* wrote:
> > 
> >   There is software to rip the PD to midi on the computer.  I have a few
> > PD and they play as files on my laptop.
> >  Cheers.
> >  Dan

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