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Kudos For DKV Browser

2007-12-15 by Tom Wheeler

Kevin,

DkvBrowser is a great addition to the Mark IV.   I have been wanting  
the search function ever since I have had the Mark IV.  The  
performance is outstanding, even on my large number of albums (more  
than 70 GB!). I had also been wanting the ability to update comments  
easily, as well as titles, and now we have it.

I see you have a Mac install now, and a web site and documentation at  
dkvbrowser.sourceforge.net.

What are your future plans for DkvBrowser?

Tom

Re: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser

2007-12-15 by Kevin Goroway

Tom, I'm glad you are enjoying it.  But please don't forget to thank your wife Nancy as well.  She has been a big help (and having access to such a large database has been a great testing tool!)

Future plans?  That's not so easy to answer.  I want it to be completely stable (which it isn't yet, since you can be dragging items when the piano sends it a command to refresh everything), and I plan to keep adding features as they are requested.  One that is already partially implemented is the ability to choose the repeat mode (off, all, one, random), but it's a little bit counter-intuitive the way it works, so I'm trying to come up with something that would make sense (on the PDA, you can only choose these things while something is playing, but in DKVBrowser it would always be in front of you but meaningless...)

Let me know what features you want added!

-Kevin
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----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:59:48 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser










  


    
            Kevin,



DkvBrowser is a great addition to the Mark IV.   I have been wanting  

the search function ever since I have had the Mark IV.  The  

performance is outstanding, even on my large number of albums (more  

than 70 GB!). I had also been wanting the ability to update comments  

easily, as well as titles, and now we have it.



I see you have a Mac install now, and a web site and documentation at  

dkvbrowser.sourcefo rge.net.



What are your future plans for DkvBrowser?



Tom



    
  

    
    




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Re: Kudos For DKV Browser

2007-12-15 by jheitzeb1

Kevin,  

Will be glad to test this on my Disklavier Mark IV with Macintoshes as well. 
 Appreciate all the work in getting this together.  A search feature and 
catalog option would be great.

Joan


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...> wrote:
>
> Tom, I'm glad you are enjoying it.  But please don't forget to thank your wife Nancy as 
well.  She has been a big help (and having access to such a large database has been a 
great testing tool!)
> 
> Future plans?  That's not so easy to answer.  I want it to be completely stable (which it 
isn't yet, since you can be dragging items when the piano sends it a command to refresh 
everything), and I plan to keep adding features as they are requested.  One that is already 
partially implemented is the ability to choose the repeat mode (off, all, one, random), but 
it's a little bit counter-intuitive the way it works, so I'm trying to come up with something 
that would make sense (on the PDA, you can only choose these things while something is 
playing, but in DKVBrowser it would always be in front of you but meaningless...)
> 
> Let me know what features you want added!
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:59:48 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser
> 
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>     
>             Kevin,
> 
> 
> 
> DkvBrowser is a great addition to the Mark IV.   I have been wanting  
> 
> the search function ever since I have had the Mark IV.  The  
> 
> performance is outstanding, even on my large number of albums (more  
> 
> than 70 GB!). I had also been wanting the ability to update comments  
> 
> easily, as well as titles, and now we have it.
> 
> 
> 
> I see you have a Mac install now, and a web site and documentation at  
> 
> dkvbrowser.sourcefo rge.net.
> 
> 
> 
> What are your future plans for DkvBrowser?
> 
> 
> 
> Tom
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Re: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser

2007-12-15 by Tom Wheeler

Hi Kevin,

I think that all of us who own Mark IV's are deeply indebted to you  
for creating something that Yamaha could not or would not.  The  
keyword search feature alone is of enormous value.  Imagine having a  
guest over to listen to your wonderful wirelessly controlled piano and  
they ask for a special song, for example,  by Frank Sinatra and you  
have to manually move through every album on your Mark IV one at a  
time on a little screen to find the song they have requested.  It's  
just impossible when your database of recordings on the Mark IV gets  
large.  Now that is no longer necessary using the DKV Browser.  Then  
too, it is so much easier to enter new titles and information in to  
the Mark IV's database using my laptop's keyboard than the little tiny  
keyboard on the PRC-1.

Here is a thought for you.  When the Mark IV came out in the U.S. in  
late 2004, the TRC-100 tablet remote was a part of the package.  You  
could not buy the Mark IV without the TRC-100.  I took one look at the  
TRC-100 and thought, wow, this is a full-fledged Hitachi tablet  
computer and Yamaha can do all sorts of great things with it.  In  
fact, Yamaha has in the three years since introducing the Mark IV done  
absolutely nothing with the tablet remote to add to its original  
capabilities, which are actually substantially less than those  
provided by the PRC-1 pocket remote.  This lovely tablet remote with  
all sorts of card slots is totally wasted on the Mark IV! I wonder if  
there is any way to get DKV browser to run on the TRC-100?  If so,  
then one could dispense altogether with hauling a laptop into the  
vicinity of the Mark IV in order to run DKV browser and the TRC-100  
would finally get the utility that it cries out for.

The only other new feature that I would truly love but which you  
probably cannot add would be the ability to move some of my software  
from the internal HD of my Mark IV to the USB hard drive I have  
attached to the external USB drive that I have attached to the Mark  
IV.  Yamaha has never allowed this and they refuse to offer a larger  
internal HD for the Mark IV.  As a result I am stuck with the software  
I have because my internal HD is full.

I do again want to thank you for the time and effort that you have  
invested in DKV Browser.  It fills a real need for Mark IV owners.  My  
wife Nancy has enjoyed working with you on the Browser project and it  
has gotten her (for the first time) really involved with the Mark IV.

Tom
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On Dec 15, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Kevin Goroway wrote:

> Tom, I'm glad you are enjoying it.  But please don't forget to thank  
> your wife Nancy as well.  She has been a big help (and having access  
> to such a large database has been a great testing tool!)
>
> Future plans?  That's not so easy to answer.  I want it to be  
> completely stable (which it isn't yet, since you can be dragging  
> items when the piano sends it a command to refresh everything), and  
> I plan to keep adding features as they are requested.  One that is  
> already partially implemented is the ability to choose the repeat  
> mode (off, all, one, random), but it's a little bit counter- 
> intuitive the way it works, so I'm trying to come up with something  
> that would make sense (on the PDA, you can only choose these things  
> while something is playing, but in DKVBrowser it would always be in  
> front of you but meaningless...)
>
> Let me know what features you want added!
>
> -Kevin
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Kudos For DKV Browser

2007-12-15 by Kevin Goroway

Can you be more specific with your reference to a "catalog option?"  What are you looking for?

Thanks.
-Kevin
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----- Original Message ----
From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:02:18 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Kudos For DKV Browser










  


    
            Kevin,  



Will be glad to test this on my Disklavier Mark IV with Macintoshes as well. 

 Appreciate all the work in getting this together.  A search feature and 

catalog option would be great.



Joan



--- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@.. .> wrote:

>

> Tom, I'm glad you are enjoying it.  But please don't forget to thank your wife Nancy as 

well.  She has been a big help (and having access to such a large database has been a 

great testing tool!)

> 

> Future plans?  That's not so easy to answer.  I want it to be completely stable (which it 

isn't yet, since you can be dragging items when the piano sends it a command to refresh 

everything), and I plan to keep adding features as they are requested.  One that is already 

partially implemented is the ability to choose the repeat mode (off, all, one, random), but 

it's a little bit counter-intuitive the way it works, so I'm trying to come up with something 

that would make sense (on the PDA, you can only choose these things while something is 

playing, but in DKVBrowser it would always be in front of you but meaningless. ..)

> 

> Let me know what features you want added!

> 

> -Kevin

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@. ..>

> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com

> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:59:48 PM

> Subject: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

>     

>             Kevin,

> 

> 

> 

> DkvBrowser is a great addition to the Mark IV.   I have been wanting  

> 

> the search function ever since I have had the Mark IV.  The  

> 

> performance is outstanding, even on my large number of albums (more  

> 

> than 70 GB!). I had also been wanting the ability to update comments  

> 

> easily, as well as titles, and now we have it.

> 

> 

> 

> I see you have a Mac install now, and a web site and documentation at  

> 

> dkvbrowser.sourcefo rge.net.

> 

> 

> 

> What are your future plans for DkvBrowser?

> 

> 

> 

> Tom

> 

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Re: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser

2007-12-15 by Kevin Goroway

Tom,

Thanks for your kind words.  It is appreciated.

It's funny that you mention how useless the tablet is.  I agree with you completely.  So much so that I already began the research to find out if I can get DKVBrowser running on it.  There is incredibly little information out there on this hitachi tablet, but I did find out what version of Linux it runs.  I have not yet found a way to get at the operating system, but I haven't given up hope.

Moving software off to the usb drive is unlikely, for now.  That problem, mostly, is that the piano rebuilds the database for the usb drive every time you turn it on...that means you would lose all information (names, comments, ratings, etc) every time...probably not what you want.  I'm quite certain that the internal 80gig drive can be replaced with a much bigger drive.  It's a standard hard drive that would just need to be mounted in another computer and copied.  People do this with their TiVo's all the time.  It's not for the faint of heart, though...and Disklaviers are a lot more expensive than TiVos. :-)

The biggest issue you have is that you are storing full audio CDs on your piano.  I know it's incredibly convenient, but you might be better off keeping a rack of CDs near the piano, and just putting them in when you want to sync to the piano.  It stores the CDs uncompressed, which makes no sense at all, and they are MASSIVE compared to Midi files.  For example, I think Yamaha touts that the internal hard drive could hold every single title they have available in their entire catalog... Hopefully they will add the ability to store CDs in a compressed format in the future (I'm not holding my breath.)

I think it's time Nancy started playing piano. :-)

-Kevin
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----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:20:18 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser










  


    
            Hi Kevin,


I think that all of us who own Mark IV's are deeply indebted to you for creating something that Yamaha could not or would not.  The keyword search feature alone is of enormous value.  Imagine having a guest over to listen to your wonderful wirelessly controlled piano and they ask for a special song, for example,  by Frank Sinatra and you have to manually move through every album on your Mark IV one at a time on a little screen to find the song they have requested.  It's just impossible when your database of recordings on the Mark IV gets large.  Now that is no longer necessary using the DKV Browser.  Then too, it is so much easier to enter new titles and information in to the Mark IV's database using my laptop's keyboard than the little tiny keyboard on the PRC-1.


Here is a thought for you.  When the Mark IV came out in the U.S. in late 2004, the TRC-100 tablet remote was a part of the package.  You could not buy the Mark IV without the TRC-100.  I took one look at the TRC-100 and thought, wow, this is a full-fledged Hitachi tablet computer and Yamaha can do all sorts of great things with it.  In fact, Yamaha has in the three years since introducing the Mark IV done absolutely nothing with the tablet remote to add to its original capabilities, which are actually substantially less than those provided by the PRC-1 pocket remote.  This lovely tablet remote with all sorts of card slots is totally wasted on the Mark IV! I wonder if there is any way to get DKV browser to run on the TRC-100?  If so, then one could dispense altogether with hauling a laptop into the vicinity of the Mark IV in order to run DKV browser and the TRC-100 would finally get the utility that it cries out for.  


The only other new feature that I would truly love but which you probably cannot add would be the ability to move some of my software from the internal HD of my Mark IV to the USB hard drive I have attached to the external USB drive that I have attached to the Mark IV.  Yamaha has never allowed this and they refuse to offer a larger internal HD for the Mark IV.  As a result I am stuck with the software I have because my internal HD is full. 


I do again want to thank you for the time and effort that you have invested in DKV Browser.  It fills a real need for Mark IV owners.  My wife Nancy has enjoyed working with you on the Browser project and it has gotten her (for the first time) really involved with the Mark IV.  


Tom
           
On Dec 15, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Kevin Goroway wrote:

Tom, I'm glad you are enjoying it.  But please don't forget to thank your wife Nancy as well.  She has been a big help (and having access to such a large database has been a great testing tool!)

Future plans?  That's not so easy to answer.  I want it to be completely stable (which it isn't yet, since you can be dragging items when the piano sends it a command to refresh everything), and I plan to keep adding features as they are requested.  One that is already partially implemented is the ability to choose the repeat mode (off, all, one, random), but it's a little bit counter-intuitive the way it works, so I'm trying to come up with something that would make sense (on the PDA, you can only choose these things while something is playing, but in DKVBrowser it would always be in front of you but meaningless. ..)

Let me know what features you want added!

-Kevin








    
  

    
    




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Re: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser

2007-12-16 by moviemakerpro@aol.com

Kevin,

Thanks for contributing your dkvBrowserMac to the world of Disklavier enthusiasts! I just downloaded it and love the simple search and play functionality. I'd love to have some of the new features of the 0.36 release (mainly renaming songs). Can you help me get it going on my PPC Mac? Or is there a compiled version of it out there?

I can't thank you enough for your efforts here.

Thanks- Jeff
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Sent: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser


















  



    

            



Tom,

Thanks for your kind words.? It is appreciated.

It's funny that you mention how useless the tablet is.? I agree with you completely.? So much so that I already began the research to find out if I can get DKVBrowser running on it.? There is incredibly little information out there on this hitachi tablet, but I did find out what version of Linux it runs.? I have not yet found a way to get at the operating system, but I haven't given up hope.

Moving software off to the usb drive is unlikely, for now.? That problem, mostly, is that the piano rebuilds the database for the usb drive every time you turn it on...that means you would lose all information (names,
 comments, ratings, etc) every time...probably not what you want.? I'm quite certain that the internal 80gig drive can be replaced with a much bigger drive.? It's a standard hard drive that would just need to be mounted in another computer and copied.? People do this with their TiVo's all the time.? It's not for the faint of heart, though...and Disklaviers are a lot more expensive than TiVos. :-)

The biggest issue you have is that you are storing full audio CDs on your piano.? I know it's incredibly convenient, but you might be better off keeping a rack of CDs near the piano, and just putting them in when you want to sync to the piano.? It stores the CDs uncompressed, which makes no sense at all, and they are MASSIVE compared to Midi files.? For example, I think Yamaha touts that the internal hard drive could hold every single title they have available in their entire catalog... Hopefully they will add the
 ability to store CDs in a compressed format in the future (I'm not holding my breath.)

I think it's time Nancy started playing piano. :-)

-Kevin



----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:20:18 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Kudos For DKV Browser










    

            
Hi Kevin,




I think that all of us who own Mark IV's are deeply indebted to you for creating something that Yamaha could not or would not. ?The keyword search feature alone is of enormous value. ?Imagine having a guest over to listen to your wonderful wirelessly controlled piano and they ask for a special song, for example, ?by Frank Sinatra and you have to manually move through every album on your Mark IV one at a time on a little screen to find the song they have requested. ?It's just impossible when your database of recordings on the Mark IV gets large. ?Now that is no longer necessary using the DKV Browser. ?Then too, it is so much easier to enter new titles and information in to the Mark IV's database using my laptop's keyboard than the little tiny keyboard on the PRC-1.




Here is a thought for
 you. ?When the Mark IV came out in the U.S. in late 2004, the TRC-100 tablet remote was a part of the package. ?You could not buy the Mark IV without the TRC-100. ?I took one look at the TRC-100 and thought, wow, this is a full-fledged Hitachi tablet computer and Yamaha can do all sorts of great things with it. ?In fact, Yamaha has in the three years since introducing the Mark IV done absolutely nothing with the tablet remote to add to its original capabilities, which are actually substantially less than those provided by the PRC-1 pocket remote. ?This lovely tablet remote with all sorts of card slots is totally wasted on the Mark IV! I wonder if there is any way to get DKV browser to run on the TRC-100? ?If so, then one could dispense altogether with hauling a laptop into the vicinity of the Mark IV in order to run DKV browser and the TRC-100 would finally get the utility that it cries out for. ?




The only other new feature that I would truly love but which you probably cannot add would be the ability to move some of my software from the internal HD of my Mark IV to the USB hard drive I have attached to the external USB drive that I have attached to the Mark IV. ?Yamaha has never allowed this and they refuse to offer a larger internal HD for the Mark IV. ?As a result I am stuck with the software I have because my internal HD is full.?




I do again want to thank you for the time and effort that you have invested in DKV Browser. ?It fills a real need for Mark IV owners. ?My wife Nancy has enjoyed working with you on the Browser project and it has gotten her (for the first time) really involved with the Mark IV. ?




Tom

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On Dec 15, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Kevin Goroway wrote:





Tom, I'm glad you are enjoying it.? But please don't forget to thank your wife Nancy as well.? She has been a big help (and having access to such a large database has been a great testing tool!)

Future plans?? That's not so easy to answer.? I want it to be completely stable (which it isn't yet, since you can be dragging items when the piano sends it a command to refresh everything), and I
 plan to keep adding features as they are requested.? One that is already partially implemented is the ability to choose the repeat mode (off, all, one, random), but it's a little bit counter-intuitive the way it works, so I'm trying to come up with something that would make sense (on the PDA, you can only choose these things while something is playing, but in DKVBrowser it would always be in front of you but meaningless. ..)

Let me know what features you want added!

-Kevin









    
  









      

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Re: Kudos For DKV Browser

2007-12-17 by jheitzeb1

By catalog option, I just mean that I would like to print out an index of all the songs I've 
loaded on the hard drive.

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...> wrote:
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> Can you be more specific with your reference to a "catalog option?"  What are you 
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> 
> Thanks.
> -Kevin
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: jheitzeb1 <jheitzeb1@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:02:18 AM
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> > ----- Original Message ----
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> > From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@ ..>
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> > To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
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