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Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-17 by samsheleby

I have a home network set up and want to connect the Mark IV to the 
router via wireless. Has anyone done this? If so could you please tell 
me how you did it. What hardware did you buy to connect to the piano.
I appreciate any help. You can write me at samsheleby@... if you 
don't want to post to the site. Thanks! Sam

Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-18 by jheitzeb1

If you are using a Macintosh computer and already have an airport extreme network in your 
home you can use an airport express station plugged into a wall socket near your disklavier 
to access the Mark IV wirelessly.  Search by message 6228 for my step by step instructions 
on how to do this for Mac.

Joan


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "samsheleby" <samsheleby@...> wrote:
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> I have a home network set up and want to connect the Mark IV to the 
> router via wireless. Has anyone done this? If so could you please tell 
> me how you did it. What hardware did you buy to connect to the piano.
> I appreciate any help. You can write me at samsheleby@... if you 
> don't want to post to the site. Thanks! Sam
>

Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-18 by dogfart64

I've also connected my Mark IV to my home wireless network via an 
Airport Express access point, which is plugged in to the same surge 
protector as my piano.  There are occassional issues, such as inability 
of the handheld PDA device to connect to the piano.  I believe both the 
home wireless and the PDA operate on 2.4GHz, so momentarily unplugging 
the Airport Express usually resolves this.  I also sometimes 
get "illegal IP address" messages when trying to connect.  These are 
resolved by shutting down the wireless network or the piano or both and 
re-booting.  Overall, though, I'm very pleased with the performance of 
the system via wireless network.  

Jim Q.

Re: [disklavier] Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-18 by Kevin Goroway

Unfortunately, only the MarkIV has a network port on it that allows these features...

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Subject: [disklavier] Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

Should I be able to follow these same steps to wirelessly connect my iMac to my Mark III disklavier?

Thanks,
Joel



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Re: [disklavier] Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-18 by ISKI1@aol.com

You can however connect a laptop or other PC to the piano with a midi cable  
and then put the laptop on the wireless network.This will give your Mark  III 
may of the same features as the Mark IV.
 
You can also connect the PC to the piano with a wireless Midi cable and  
connect the PC to the wireless network that has an Internet connection. If the  
network has an Internet connection you can play midi's from the  Internet.



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Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-19 by joel@janicejoel.com


Thanks all for the advice. One quick follow-up:

Does this mean I can connect my Mark III disklavier to an Airport Express, which will then talk wirelessly to my mac (which has Airport), allowing me to play midi\u2019s from my computer and the internet?

Sorry for the obsessive questioning here. My computer skills are pretty basic.

Thanks again,
Joel

Re: [disklavier] Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-19 by ISKI1@aol.com

Joel
The Mark III does not have a wireless or Ethernet connection like the  Mark 
IV.
The Mark III only has a midi port and an audio input and output.
 
 
You can however connect a laptop or other PC to the piano with a midi cable  
and then put the laptop on the wireless network. This will give your Mark  III 
many of the same features as the Mark IV. You cannot connect to  Disklavier 
Radio.
I think all the songs on Disklavier Radio can be downloaded anyway.
 
_http://www.etcetera.co.uk/products/YAM102.shtml_ 
(http://www.etcetera.co.uk/products/YAM102.shtml) 
 
_http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UM1EX/_ 
(http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UM1EX/) 
 
_http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/index.php?action=ProductDetail&product_id=1013
803_ 
(http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/index.php?action=ProductDetail&product_id=1013803) 
 
Item # 170178712140 on ebay
 
Mac or windows Driver for cable
_http://www.yamahasynth.com/download/midi_driver.html
_ (http://www.yamahasynth.com/download/midi_driver.html) 

You can also connect the PC to the piano with a wireless Midi cable and  
connect the PC to the wireless network that has a Internet connection. If the  
network has a Internet connection you can play midi's from the Internet.

_http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MidAir-main.html_ 
(http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MidAir-main.html) 
 
_http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/PressReleaseDetail/0,,CNTID
%253D64732%2526CTID%253D560003%2526CNTYP%253DNEWS,00.html_ 
(http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/PressReleaseDetail/0,,CNTID%3D64732%26CTID%3D5
60003%26CNTYP%3DNEWS,00.html) 
 
( I have not tried either of these)
 
There are several midi and Yamaha ESEQ file players available for Windows  
but I am not sure what is available for MAC.
 
I bought a used Dell laptop that I just leave next to the piano all the  
time. So for $450 I have connected my piano to the Internet and can play an  
unlimited number of songs from the harddrive. I setup playlists on the  PC. So if I 
want to hear Christmas music I select that list or if I am in the  mood for 
Jazz I select that list. I can also play them randomly with the shuffle  
feature on the player.
 
_http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm_ 
(http://www.carolrpt.com/softwaredwnld.htm) 
VanBassco -Juke Box program to generate play lists on  a computer. Free.
Yamplayer -Jukebox program that will play native Eseq  (.fil) files
 
Good Luck
Alan (http://www.yamahasynth.com/download/midi_driver.html) 



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Re: [disklavier] Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-19 by Mark Fontana

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 joel@... wrote:

> Does this mean I can connect my Mark III disklavier to an Airport Express,
> which will then talk wirelessly to my mac (which has Airport), allowing me
> to play midi¹s from my computer and the internet?


I think that actually would work, if your Disklavier is equipped with
"ANALOG MIDI IN" RCA jacks.  You'd connect the audio output of the
Airport Express to these jacks, then play CDs (or more likely, ripped
versions of them) from your Mac to the piano over the wireless link.  
That could be pretty slick.

To play arbitrary MIDI files or ESEQ files from Yamaha floppies, you
would need to encode them into "analog MIDI" format for transmission
over the audio link.  I'm not aware of any Mac tools to do this
conversion, but MID2PianoCD for Windows can (maybe you could run it in
Parallels or other Windows emulation software?):

  http://dp70.dyndns.org/mid2pianocd/

Mark Fontana

Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-20 by Cheetham

I found that after connecting by cable to my router and linking my 
computer to the Mk IV  - after disconnecting, my computer started 
finding the Mk IV wirelessly. I don't remember doing anything special 
except connecting to the new wireless device which starts with DKV... 
and is unprotected.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "dogfart64" <quigleyjim@...> wrote:
>
> I've also connected my Mark IV to my home wireless network via an 
> Airport Express access point, which is plugged in to the same surge 
> protector as my piano.  There are occassional issues, such as 
inability 
> of the handheld PDA device to connect to the piano.  I believe both 
the 
> home wireless and the PDA operate on 2.4GHz, so momentarily 
unplugging 
> the Airport Express usually resolves this.  I also sometimes 
> get "illegal IP address" messages when trying to connect.  These 
are 
> resolved by shutting down the wireless network or the piano or both 
and 
> re-booting.  Overall, though, I'm very pleased with the performance 
of 
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> the system via wireless network.  
> 
> Jim Q.
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Connecting MarkIV to a Home Network via Wireless

2007-12-20 by Kevin Goroway

That's unrelated.

Every MarkIV disklavier has a wireless network to talk to the PDA and tablet interface.  Any nearby computer with a wireless card can join this network (it's wide open), and, indeed, it's SSID starts with DKV...

However, that wireless network has no relationship with the To/From PC folder, and you won't be able to use the Internet Radio features of the Disklavier if that is your only connection to the piano.

Here's a quick summary.

The MarkIV always has a wireless network (but it's not meant for the end user to ever use [although DKVBrowser lives here])

The MarkIV also has an ethernet port which is meant to have a wired connection to a router or switch and a path to the internet.  It is this port that makes the To/From Piano share available, and it is this port that is used to talk to the internet for the Radio feature to work.  To add a whole lot to the confusion, it is pretty simple to connect a wireless access point to this port on the piano making the To/From Piano and Radio features work wirelessly, but it is increasingly difficult to know which "wireless" connection to the piano people are talking about...

-Kevin
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            I found that after connecting by cable to my router and linking my 

computer to the Mk IV  - after disconnecting, my computer started 

finding the Mk IV wirelessly. I don't remember doing anything special 

except connecting to the new wireless device which starts with DKV... 

and is unprotected.



--- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, "dogfart64" <quigleyjim@ ...> wrote:

>

> I've also connected my Mark IV to my home wireless network via an 

> Airport Express access point, which is plugged in to the same surge 

> protector as my piano.  There are occassional issues, such as 

inability 

> of the handheld PDA device to connect to the piano.  I believe both 

the 

> home wireless and the PDA operate on 2.4GHz, so momentarily 

unplugging 

> the Airport Express usually resolves this.  I also sometimes 

> get "illegal IP address" messages when trying to connect.  These 

are 

> resolved by shutting down the wireless network or the piano or both 

and 

> re-booting.  Overall, though, I'm very pleased with the performance 

of 

> the system via wireless network.  

> 

> Jim Q.

>





    
  

    
    




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