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piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good

2009-02-16 by Dokhanchi

Hi,

I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.

However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how good they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She said that professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what the group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may not be as familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a digital piano.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good

2009-02-16 by Mark

Find a piano teacher who knows what she is talking about.

Mark in Idaho


Dokhanchi wrote:
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>
> Hi,
>
> I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better 
> choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I 
> followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I 
> bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still 
> enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.
>
> However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how good 
> they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as 
> the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She said that 
> professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what the 
> group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may not be as 
> familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a 
> digital piano.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond.
>
>

Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good

2009-02-16 by Carol Beigel

Piano teacher is WAY out of touch!  The piano is exactly the same with  
or without the Disklavier electronics.  Since the piano will probably  
still be around when your grandchildren can play it, you were wise to  
choose a product you can enjoy with or without someone in your family  
being able to play it.

Carol Beigel
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On Feb 15, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Mark wrote:

> Find a piano teacher who knows what she is talking about.
>
> Mark in Idaho
>
>
> Dokhanchi wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better
>> choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I
>> followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I
>> bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still
>> enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.
>>
>> However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how good
>> they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as
>> the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She said that
>> professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what  
>> the
>> group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may not be  
>> as
>> familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a
>> digital piano.
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to respond.
>>
>>
>
>
>
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piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good, perhaps the acoustic matter.

2009-02-16 by uripto uripto

The Piano Teacher was not completely wrong, if we consider the electronic parts inside the piano would take some spaces which are need for the air inside to vibrate perfectly. The heat dissipates from the electric current will also influence the quality of vibration. However, for my ears which are not too sensitive, those are not a big deal.
I appreciate all of those comments.
Thanks,
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--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Carol Beigel wrote:
From: Carol Beigel
Subject: Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:03 PM

Piano teacher is WAY out of touch! The piano is exactly the same with
or without the Disklavier electronics. Since the piano will probably
still be around when your grandchildren can play it, you were wise to
choose a product you can enjoy with or without someone in your family
being able to play it.

Carol Beigel

On Feb 15, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Mark wrote:

> Find a piano teacher who knows what she is talking about.
>
> Mark in Idaho
>
>
> Dokhanchi wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better
>> choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I
>> followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I
>> bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still
>> enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.
>>
>> However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how good
>> they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as
>> the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She said that
>> professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what
>> the
>> group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may not be
>> as
>> familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a
>> digital piano.
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to respond.
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good, perhaps the acoustic matter.

2009-02-16 by Mark

Interesting comment from uripto.

I would challenge anybody to discern the difference. The same minute 
differences could be attributed to changes in ambient temperature,  
humidity, or altitude as these all effect the transmission of sound 
waves. Also, the pianist wearing a long dress, the acoustics of the 
room, presence of others in the room, whether the pianist has soft or 
callused fingers (as someone who also plays a guitar or violin. ), the 
blood pressure or hydration of the listener as this could effect the ear 
membranes.

If I remember, tomorrow I will check my DK's temperature with my 
infrared surface thermometer.

The issue not noted is that it would be difficult for a professional to 
compare the difference between the two because each will have a slight 
different tune and voice. It would take a blind comparison with many 
DK's and non-DK's to do an accurate comparison.

When I have tried to request performers to record on a DK, it appears 
that some just have a bias against anything but a pure acoustic piano. 
They consider the DK a hybrid.

Mark in Idaho

uripto uripto wrote:
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>
> The Piano Teacher was not completely wrong, if we consider the 
> electronic parts inside the piano would take some spaces which are 
> need for the air inside to vibrate perfectly. The heat dissipates from 
> the electric current will also influence the quality of vibration. 
> However, for my ears which are not too sensitive, those are not a big 
> deal.
> I appreciate all of those comments.
> Thanks,
>
> --- On *Sun, 2/15/09, Carol Beigel /<thecarolb@...>/* wrote:
>
>     From: Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...>
>     Subject: Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good
>     To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>     Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:03 PM
>
>     Piano teacher is WAY out of touch! The piano is exactly the same with
>     or without the Disklavier electronics. Since the piano will probably
>     still be around when your grandchildren can play it, you were wise to
>     choose a product you can enjoy with or without someone in your family
>     being able to play it.
>
>     Carol Beigel
>
>     On Feb 15, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Mark wrote:
>
>     > Find a piano teacher who knows what she is talking about.
>     >
>     > Mark in Idaho
>     >
>     >
>     > Dokhanchi wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Hi,
>     >>
>     >> I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better
>     >> choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I
>     >> followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I
>     >> bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still
>     >> enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.
>     >>
>     >> However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how
>     good
>     >> they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as
>     >> the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She
>     said that
>     >> professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what
>     >> the
>     >> group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may
>     not be
>     >> as
>     >> familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a
>     >> digital piano.
>     >>
>     >> Thank you for taking the time to respond.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     >
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Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good, perhaps the acoustic matter.

2009-02-16 by Carol Beigel

The electronic parts take up NO room where the "vibrations" are needed. All heat generating computer parts are located outside of the piano in boxes. Even the pedals are not compromised. The sound is generated from the soundboard which vibrates also in the case. There is absolutely NO difference in sound or payability!!!
Carol Beigel
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:33 PM
Subject: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good, perhaps the acoustic matter.

The Piano Teacher was not completely wrong, if we consider the electronic parts inside the piano would take some spaces which are need for the air inside to vibrate perfectly. The heat dissipates from the electric current will also influence the quality of vibration. However, for my ears which are not too sensitive, those are not a big deal.
I appreciate all of those comments.
Thanks,
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--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Carol Beigel wrote:
From: Carol Beigel
Subject: Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:03 PM

Piano teacher is WAY out of touch! The piano is exactly the same with
or without the Disklavier electronics. Since the piano will probably
still be around when your grandchildren can play it, you were wise to
choose a product you can enjoy with or without someone in your family
being able to play it.

Carol Beigel

On Feb 15, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Mark wrote:

> Find a piano teacher who knows what she is talking about.
>
> Mark in Idaho
>
>
> Dokhanchi wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better
>> choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I
>> followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I
>> bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still
>> enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.
>>
>> However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how good
>> they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as
>> the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She said that
>> professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what
>> the
>> group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may not be
>> as
>> familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a
>> digital piano.
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to respond.
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good

2009-02-17 by Phil Blah

Hey,

(no offence to those 'up to date' and tech compitent teachers out there!!)

But most music teachers don't have a clue about anything technical about pianos, most are happy to flog pianos that are not regulated or in good tune.
Many older teachers fear anything to do with technology... most still record students on blownout tape recorders etc.

That said, the Disklavier is just a NORMAL piano, except they have solenoids that press the standard key down from behind the key... Yamaha's whole concept and success with the Disklavier is to have a normal piano with their technology installed unintrusive etc.

So at the end of the day the key is hitting the string just like anyone else... its STILL a REAL string... not a recorded siumulaion etc.

Yes they have a few black boxes underneigh that run the whole system, but these are placed in specific places to avoid any slight change in sound...but if anyone was worried about a possible tone difference, then the bigger the Disklavier the more 'space' for the equpment so a C3+ I doubt would have ANY noticable difference..

The only reason 'professionals' can 'tell the difference' is because most Disklaviers are flogged to death in Hotel's and Resturants 10+ hours a day. Perhaps older Disklaviers had clunky systems, but the mark4 uses optic sensors so there are no ' micro switches' etc.

Anyway, good on you, hopfully your kids keep interested!

Cheers,

Philip



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From: Dokhanchi <;dokhanchi@...>
To: Disklavier
Sent: Monday, 16 February, 2009 1:16:22 PM
Subject: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good

Hi,

I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.

However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how good they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She said that professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what the group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may not be as familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a digital piano.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.


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Re[2]: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good

2009-02-17 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings Phil,

There are probably some differences in the sound of a Disklavier and
and identical piano without a Disclavier that could be measured by
sensitive instruments. There have actually been studies that show that
the body weight and sitting position of the pianist can effect the
sound of the piano. However, in blind testing, I would be willing to
bet than any piano teacher, or anyone else for that matter, could not
reliably tell which was the Disklavier. In addition, the differences
are probably completely irrelevant to the musicality of the instrument
and are probably of less influence than the perfection of the tuning
and voicing. The type of flooring under the piano might have more
influence on the tone than whether or not a Disklavier mechanism was
installed.

Monday, February 16, 2009, 5:10:56 PM, you wrote:
> Hey,

> (no offence to those 'up to date' and tech compitent teachers out there!!)

> But most music teachers don't have a clue about anything technical
> about pianos, most are happy to flog pianos that are not regulated or in good tune.
> Many older teachers fear anything to do with technology... most
> still record students on blownout tape recorders etc. 

> That said, the Disklavier is just a NORMAL piano, except they have
> solenoids that press the standard key down from behind the key...
> Yamaha's whole concept and success with the Disklavier is to have a
> normal piano with their technology installed unintrusive etc.

> So at the end of the day the key is hitting the string just like
> anyone else... its STILL a REAL string... not a recorded siumulaion etc.

> Yes they have a few black boxes underneigh that run the whole
> system, but these are placed in specific places to avoid any slight
> change in sound...but if anyone was worried about a possible tone
> difference, then the bigger the Disklavier the more 'space' for the
> equpment so a C3+ I doubt would have ANY noticable difference..

> The only reason 'professionals' can 'tell the difference' is
> because most Disklaviers are flogged to death in Hotel's and
> Resturants 10+ hours a day. Perhaps older Disklaviers had clunky
> systems, but the mark4 uses optic sensors so there are no ' micro switches' etc.

> Anyway, good on you, hopfully your kids keep interested!

> Cheers,

> Philip



> From: Dokhanchi <dokhanchi@...>
> To: Disklavier <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, 16 February, 2009 1:16:22 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good


> Hi,

> I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better
> choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I
> followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I
> bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still
> enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.

> However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how
> good they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as
> good as the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She
> said that professionals can always tell the difference. I was
> wondering what the group thought of this statement. I have a hunch
> that she may not be as familiar with these new disklaviers and
> thinks that we had bought a digital piano.

> Thank you for taking the time to respond.

> Make Yahoo!7 your homepage and win a trip to the Quiksilver Pro. Find out more.
> 

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Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good

2009-02-17 by Dokhanchi

Thanks everyone for the responses. I do not have the Mark IV. I have the Mark III-B version and have added a laptop with a wireless Internet access and vanBascos's software. I call it my ghetto mark IV.  :)
 
I am not a musician but a music lover and I love my Disklavier Piano. I'm getting a lot more use out of it than my kids. My favorite CD is the Celeste Tavera on PianoSoft Plus Audio .

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Phil Blah <phil.blah@...> wrote:
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From: Phil Blah <phil.blah@...>
Subject: Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:10 PM








Hey,

(no offence to those 'up to date' and tech compitent teachers out there!!)

But most music teachers don't have a clue about anything technical about pianos, most are happy to flog pianos that are not regulated or in good tune.
Many older teachers fear anything to do with technology.. . most still record students on blownout tape recorders etc. 

That said, the Disklavier is just a NORMAL piano, except they have solenoids that press the standard key down from behind the key... Yamaha's whole concept and success with the Disklavier is to have a normal piano with their technology installed unintrusive etc.

So at the end of the day the key is hitting the string just like anyone else... its STILL a REAL string... not a recorded siumulaion etc.

Yes they have a few black boxes underneigh that run the whole system, but these are placed in specific places to avoid any slight change in sound...but if anyone was worried about a possible tone difference, then the bigger the Disklavier the more 'space' for the equpment so a C3+ I doubt would have ANY noticable difference..

The only reason 'professionals' can 'tell the difference' is because most Disklaviers are flogged to death in Hotel's and Resturants 10+ hours a day. Perhaps older Disklaviers had clunky systems, but the mark4 uses optic sensors so there are no ' micro switches' etc.

Anyway, good on you, hopfully your kids keep interested!

Cheers,

Philip







From: Dokhanchi <dokhanchi@yahoo. com>
To: Disklavier <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Monday, 16 February, 2009 1:16:22 PM
Subject: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good



Hi,

I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.

However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how good they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She said that professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what the group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may not be as familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a digital piano.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.



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Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good, perhaps the acoustic matter.

2009-02-17 by athomik

A DGC1-B is exactly the same as a GC1-B. They are produced on the same production line to the same specs. Disklaviers are just ordinary pianos which get pulled off the production line to get the electronics fitted. As far as the piano side is concerned, there is absolutely no difference.

athomik

On Feb 16 2009, Carol Beigel wrote:

>The electronic parts take up NO room where the "vibrations" are needed. All heat generating computer parts are located outside of the piano in boxes. Even the pedals are not compromised. The sound is generated from the soundboard which vibrates also in the case. There is absolutely NO difference in sound or payability!!!
>
>Carol Beigel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: uripto uripto
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:33 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good, perhaps the acoustic matter.
>
>
> The Piano Teacher was not completely wrong, if we consider the electronic parts inside the piano would take some spaces which are need for the air inside to vibrate perfectly. The heat dissipates from the electric current will also influence the quality of vibration. However, for my ears which are not too sensitive, those are not a big deal.
> I appreciate all of those comments.
> Thanks,
>
> --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Carol Beigel wrote:
>
> From: Carol Beigel
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:03 PM
>
>
> Piano teacher is WAY out of touch! The piano is exactly the same with
> or without the Disklavier electronics. Since the piano will probably
> still be around when your grandchildren can play it, you were wise to
> choose a product you can enjoy with or without someone in your family
> being able to play it.
>
> Carol Beigel
>
> On Feb 15, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Mark wrote:
>
> > Find a piano teacher who knows what she is talking about.
> >
> > Mark in Idaho
> >
> >
> > Dokhanchi wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano was a better
> >> choice over the same version without the Disklavier. You see I
> >> followed the more expensive, better product rule. Kidding aside, I
> >> bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I could still
> >> enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.
> >>
> >> However, the new piano teacher told me today that no matter how good
> >> they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still not as good as
> >> the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model. She said that
> >> professionals can always tell the difference. I was wondering what
> >> the
> >> group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that she may not be
> >> as
> >> familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we had bought a
> >> digital piano.
> >>
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Re: piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good, perhaps the acoustic matter.

2009-02-17 by jheitzeb1

I agree with Carol.

Joan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> wrote:
>
> The electronic parts take up NO room where the "vibrations" are
needed.  All heat generating computer parts are located outside of the
piano in boxes.  Even the pedals are not compromised.  The sound is
generated from the soundboard which vibrates also in the case.  There
is absolutely NO difference in sound or payability!!!
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: uripto uripto 
>   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:33 PM
>   Subject: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as good,
perhaps the acoustic matter.
> 
> 
>         The Piano Teacher was not completely wrong, if we consider
the electronic parts inside the piano would take some spaces which are
need for the air inside to vibrate perfectly. The heat dissipates from
the electric current will also influence the quality of vibration.
However, for my ears which are not too sensitive, those are not a big
deal.
>         I appreciate all of those comments.
>         Thanks,
> 
>         --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...> wrote:
> 
>           From: Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...>
>           Subject: Re: [disklavier] piano teacher says DGC1-B not as
good
>           To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>           Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:03 PM
> 
> 
>           Piano teacher is WAY out of touch! The piano is exactly
the same with 
>           or without the Disklavier electronics. Since the piano
will probably 
>           still be around when your grandchildren can play it, you
were wise to 
>           choose a product you can enjoy with or without someone in
your family 
>           being able to play it.
> 
>           Carol Beigel
> 
>           On Feb 15, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Mark wrote:
> 
>           > Find a piano teacher who knows what she is talking about.
>           >
>           > Mark in Idaho
>           >
>           >
>           > Dokhanchi wrote:
>           >>
>           >> Hi,
>           >>
>           >> I bought a DGC1-B for my kids thinking that this piano
was a better
>           >> choice over the same version without the Disklavier.
You see I
>           >> followed the more expensive, better product rule.
Kidding aside, I
>           >> bought this piano so if my spoiled kids quit playing I
could still
>           >> enjoy the piano by playing midi performances by others.
>           >>
>           >> However, the new piano teacher told me today that no
matter how good
>           >> they construct these new Disklaviers, they are still
not as good as
>           >> the ones with out. I guess in this case the GC-1 model.
She said that
>           >> professionals can always tell the difference. I was
wondering what 
>           >> the
>           >> group thought of this statement. I have a hunch that
she may not be 
>           >> as
>           >> familiar with these new disklaviers and thinks that we
had bought a
>           >> digital piano.
>           >>
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