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Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

2009-12-01 by qv308

Well, I asked about this some months ago, and while group members offered suggestions nothing worked, and Yamaha tech support was no better.

The problem:  Virtual PRC will not start under Snow Leopard, Apples latest version of the OS X software, currently version 10.6.2. I understand that Virtual PRC is a java application.  OS X downloads its own version of java with OS X software updates -- you don't go to the java website to get the latest version.

Has anyone had any luck with Virtual PRC and Snow Leopard?  I can get to the "Start" menu on the browser, then a window opens showing a download occurring, and then nothing happens.  Under earlier versions of OS X at that point in the procedure, after the download window, the virtual representation of the PRC remote would open up on the desktop and I would be in business.

I can still communicate with the Disklavier, for example, sending midi files to the PC sharing folder.

Help appreciated.  Steve

Re: [disklavier] Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

2009-12-01 by Kevin Goroway

So, this might not be the answer that you want, but it might help debug the problem.

What's happening behind the covers when you try to run the virtual prc is as follows:

The piano figures out it's own ip address and creates a file on the piano containing that ip address, and some command line arguments to a java program (including the ip address) to get launched on your computer.  The process and technology that makes this happen relies on php, and jnlp, which allows the browser to then fetch that created file and ultimately launch the virtual prc.  But none of that matters. :-)  With a tiny bit of effort you can download the jar file of the entire virtual prc manually, and launch it by hand whenever you want if you simply give it the correct arguments (none of which ever change except for the ip address, which might not change if you have configured your network that way...)

Here's what should work for you:
1) In a browser, type in the following URL:  http://dkvnnnnnn/prc/prc100.jar  (where dkvnnnxxx is your piano's name, OR ITS IP ADDRESS)

Your browser should download the file (potentially asking you where to save it if your browser is configured that way).  You now have the entire virtual prc program...everything else, all of the magic that used to be in place for automatically finding your piano and launching it with the correct arguments is stripped away.  So, how does that help?

2) Browse to the location of the jar file on your drive, and do the following:

java -jar prc100.jar -h=dkvnnnxxx -p=3191 webremote -w=31910   (where dkvnnnxxx is your piano's name, OR ITS IP ADDRESS)

At that point, it should work...If it doesn't there's an incompatibility between your java and this jar (it will most likely boil down to a 64bit JVM on Snow Leapard versus a required 32 jvm).  If it does work, you can forget it, and use it this way (you can probably create a shortcut to it, or whatever those are called on the Mac).  If it does work, but you want the old ability back, you have at least narrowed it down to a jnlp problem most likely...

-Kevin




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Subject: [disklavier] Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

  
Well, I asked about this some months ago, and while group members offered suggestions nothing worked, and Yamaha tech support was no better.

The problem:  Virtual PRC will not start under Snow Leopard, Apples latest version of the OS X software, currently version 10.6.2. I understand that Virtual PRC is a java application.  OS X downloads its own version of java with OS X software updates -- you don't go to the java website to get the latest version.

Has anyone had any luck with Virtual PRC and Snow Leopard?  I can get to the "Start" menu on the browser, then a window opens showing a download occurring, and then nothing happens.  Under earlier versions of OS X at that point in the procedure, after the download window, the virtual representation of the PRC remote would open up on the desktop and I would be in business.

I can still communicate with the Disklavier, for example, sending midi files to the PC sharing folder.

Help appreciated.  Steve

Re: Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

2009-12-01 by Joan

I am running virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard.

Try downloading the PRC using a different browser and instructions I gave in earlier posting on this question.

Joan


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "qv308" <stevme@...> wrote:
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> Well, I asked about this some months ago, and while group members offered suggestions nothing worked, and Yamaha tech support was no better.
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> The problem:  Virtual PRC will not start under Snow Leopard, Apples latest version of the OS X software, currently version 10.6.2. I understand that Virtual PRC is a java application.  OS X downloads its own version of java with OS X software updates -- you don't go to the java website to get the latest version.
> 
> Has anyone had any luck with Virtual PRC and Snow Leopard?  I can get to the "Start" menu on the browser, then a window opens showing a download occurring, and then nothing happens.  Under earlier versions of OS X at that point in the procedure, after the download window, the virtual representation of the PRC remote would open up on the desktop and I would be in business.
> 
> I can still communicate with the Disklavier, for example, sending midi files to the PC sharing folder.
> 
> Help appreciated.  Steve
>

Re: Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

2009-12-02 by geoba75

Virtual PRC only works with Safari -- it won't work with Firefox.

Open the Network folder in accordance with the instructions and then open the DKV folder and the DNA folder.  Drag and drop the VirtualPRC.html icon over to the Safari icon on the docking bar.  You should then see the logon screen for Virtual PRC, and it should work from there.

George 

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Joan" <jheitzeb1@...> wrote:
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> I am running virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard.
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> Try downloading the PRC using a different browser and instructions I gave in earlier posting on this question.
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> Joan
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> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "qv308" <stevme@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I asked about this some months ago, and while group members offered suggestions nothing worked, and Yamaha tech support was no better.
> > 
> > The problem:  Virtual PRC will not start under Snow Leopard, Apples latest version of the OS X software, currently version 10.6.2. I understand that Virtual PRC is a java application.  OS X downloads its own version of java with OS X software updates -- you don't go to the java website to get the latest version.
> > 
> > Has anyone had any luck with Virtual PRC and Snow Leopard?  I can get to the "Start" menu on the browser, then a window opens showing a download occurring, and then nothing happens.  Under earlier versions of OS X at that point in the procedure, after the download window, the virtual representation of the PRC remote would open up on the desktop and I would be in business.
> > 
> > I can still communicate with the Disklavier, for example, sending midi files to the PC sharing folder.
> > 
> > Help appreciated.  Steve
> >
>

Re: Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

2009-12-06 by qv308

Success!

Thanks for all the moral support.

As it turns out, today, December 6, 2009, I was able to download, using Software Update, a new version of Java! This is "Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 1, Version 1.0", which I installed (this involves a reboot).

I clicked on the icon for the Disklavier in the Finder window, double clicked on "DNA", then right clicked on virtualprc.html and chose Safari to open the page (not Firefox, my default browser).  As before, a script ran and nothing happened, except that a file "prcstart.php.jnlp" was created.  You can find this file on your disk using Spotlight (CMND-spacebar).  I doubled clicked on this and the Virtual PRC program started up, complete with the Virtual representation of the PRC.  I tested it, and the disklavier started right up.

Again, my OS X version is 10.6.2 and I am communicating with the Disklavier using the wireless, Airport system.

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Steve

Re: Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

2009-12-06 by Joan

Glad you had success!
Joan


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> Success!
> 
> Thanks for all the moral support.
> 
> As it turns out, today, December 6, 2009, I was able to download, using Software Update, a new version of Java! This is "Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 1, Version 1.0", which I installed (this involves a reboot).
> 
> I clicked on the icon for the Disklavier in the Finder window, double clicked on "DNA", then right clicked on virtualprc.html and chose Safari to open the page (not Firefox, my default browser).  As before, a script ran and nothing happened, except that a file "prcstart.php.jnlp" was created.  You can find this file on your disk using Spotlight (CMND-spacebar).  I doubled clicked on this and the Virtual PRC program started up, complete with the Virtual representation of the PRC.  I tested it, and the disklavier started right up.
> 
> Again, my OS X version is 10.6.2 and I am communicating with the Disklavier using the wireless, Airport system.
> 
> Thanks for all the suggestions.  Steve
>

Re: Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

2009-12-08 by Neal Polan

The mac desktop prc worked for me as well. Thank you.

Is there a way to have a icon that launches this virtual remote Interface
other then the virtualprc.html?  To open virtualprc.html creates a virtual
prc window and then a download window before the actual virtual prc
Interface remote shows.

Take Care
Neal

Re: Virtual PRC and Mac Snow Leopard -- Not!

2011-07-25 by steelydane

I know this is an old thread... but I'm having this problem accessing Virtual PRC on Snow Leopard where signing in: root/prcstart just gets this login error and never moves beyond it. 
Any advice?
Yes, I work at Yamaha, but I'm so busy at work that I never think to ask anybody in Service. 

Mac OS 10.6.8
Safari 5.0.5
Firefox 3.6.19
Java for Mac OSX update 5

Thanks

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Joan" <jheitzeb1@...> wrote:
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> Glad you had success!
> Joan
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> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "qv308" <stevme@> wrote:
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> > Success!
> > 
> > Thanks for all the moral support.
> > 
> > As it turns out, today, December 6, 2009, I was able to download, using Software Update, a new version of Java! This is "Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 1, Version 1.0", which I installed (this involves a reboot).
> > 
> > I clicked on the icon for the Disklavier in the Finder window, double clicked on "DNA", then right clicked on virtualprc.html and chose Safari to open the page (not Firefox, my default browser).  As before, a script ran and nothing happened, except that a file "prcstart.php.jnlp" was created.  You can find this file on your disk using Spotlight (CMND-spacebar).  I doubled clicked on this and the Virtual PRC program started up, complete with the Virtual representation of the PRC.  I tested it, and the disklavier started right up.
> > 
> > Again, my OS X version is 10.6.2 and I am communicating with the Disklavier using the wireless, Airport system.
> > 
> > Thanks for all the suggestions.  Steve
> >
>

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