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Newbie question

2010-04-07 by bty449552

I have a U1 disklavier mk III with a floppy disk drive. I am finding all sort of applications for it. I have now found some midi files for piano trios. I have downloaded them hoping that the disklavier can play the piano part, leaving myself to play the cello part and my daughter to play the violin part. 

However whilst listening to midi file through headphones and therefore through the synthesiser, I can hear all 3 parts, with the violin being played by the piano, if switch to playback through the piano I can only get the violin part played.

Can anyone help me with how I can choose through just the disklavier menu system to have the piano part played back through the piano? Or do I have to edit the file using a software package?

I now see that I will have to possibly covert the file to a different type before I can even start to re-assign he tracks to different instruments and control the overall volume. Can anyone give me a blow by blow checklist please?

Re: [disklavier] Newbie question

2010-04-07 by athomik

You'll probably find that the violin part is on track 1. You need to re-assign the piano part to track 1. Details are on page 38 in the advances owner's manual. Be aware that you may have to change the file format to SMF format 0 as the piano can't edit format 1 SMF songs.

If you haven't got the manual, you can find it here: http://www.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/result.php?div_code=piano


athomik

On Apr 7 2010, bty449552 wrote:

>I have a U1 disklavier mk III with a floppy disk drive. I am finding all sort of applications for it. I have now found some midi files for piano trios. I have downloaded them hoping that the disklavier can play the piano part, leaving myself to play the cello part and my daughter to play the violin part.
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>However whilst listening to midi file through headphones and therefore through the synthesiser, I can hear all 3 parts, with the violin being played by the piano, if switch to playback through the piano I can only get the violin part played.
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>Can anyone help me with how I can choose through just the disklavier menu system to have the piano part played back through the piano? Or do I have to edit the file using a software package?
>
>I now see that I will have to possibly covert the file to a different type before I can even start to re-assign he tracks to different instruments and control the overall volume. Can anyone give me a blow by blow checklist please?
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Re: Newbie question

2010-04-07 by bty449552

If I turn the file into a SMF type 0 file, won't all 3 parts ie the piano, violin and cello tracks be on the one track?

Re: [disklavier] Re: Newbie question

2010-04-07 by JORGE FERNANDEZ

It is a good idea that you read the great amount of information on the subject in the archived messages of this forum inside yahoo),

Try first to read all the material on this site:

http://www.carolrpt.com/MIDItools.htm

You will find many answers there.

Regards..
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If I turn the file into a SMF type 0 file, won't all 3 parts ie the piano, violin and cello tracks be on the one track?




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Re: [disklavier] Re: Newbie question

2010-04-08 by athomik

They will be on the same track, but on different MIDI channels.

athomik

On Apr 7 2010, bty449552 wrote:

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>If I turn the file into a SMF type 0 file, won't all 3 parts ie the piano, violin and cello tracks be on the one track?
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Re: [disklavier] Re: Newbie question

2010-04-08 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings athomik,

i was sent the file and it is a type 0. piano was split on channels 3
and 4 and violin and cello were on tracks 1 and 2. i think that there
is a lot of confusion between tracks and channels because of the
stupid way they are displayed in cakewalk's track view. cakewalk is
probably responsible for more confusion in this regard than any other
source of obfuscation. 

Thursday, April 8, 2010, 1:35:05 AM, you wrote: >   
> They will be on the same track, but on different MIDI channels.

> athomik

> On Apr 7 2010, bty449552 wrote: 

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>>If I turn the file into a SMF type 0 file, won't all 3 parts ie the piano, violin and cello tracks be on the one track?
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Re: [disklavier] Newbie question

2010-04-08 by George F. Litterst

Good morning, everyone.

The Disklavier has a split personality: It is a piano and a tone generator. Accordingly, no matter whether you are playing a file from floppy disk, USB flash drive (on a newer Disklavier), internal memory, or external MIDI, there is the issue of telling the piano which tracks are the piano tracks.

When playing the file from floppy, USB flash drive, or internal memory, the Disklavier looks for a special Yamaha "sequencer-specific meta event" in the MIDI file itself and uses that message to determine which one or two tracks should be played by the piano itself. All other tracks are played by the tone generator. If that special MIDI message does not exist in the file, the piano makes a decision based on a default setting in the piano.

To edit that default setting on a Mark III or Mark IIXG (or a Disklavier with a DSR1):

--Press Function

--Move the cursor to MIDI Setup and press Enter

--With the cursor on PianoPart, press Enter

--Press the Right Arrow button 2 times to get to the next page

--On the next page, make settings for Import File L= and R=

The settings that you make for L(eft) and R(ight) determine which channel(s) of MIDI data will be played by the piano itself and are therefore cancelable by the L and R buttons during playback.

A great choice to make is to set L to Prg(all). With that setting, the Disklavier will look at all of the data in the file and play all of the notes that appear to be assigned to a "piano group" voice. In most cases, this will be your best choice. (In a few rare cases, you may find that the piano also plays a track that has an epiano or harpsichord voice).

In the case of your file with the string parts, if those parts have a MIDI program number correctly assigned to them indicating that they should be played with a string voice, the piano will correctly play those notes with the tone generator.

Regards,
PianoBench





On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:45 AM, bty449552 wrote:

I have a U1 disklavier mk III with a floppy disk drive. I am finding all sort of applications for it. I have now found some midi files for piano trios. I have downloaded them hoping that the disklavier can play the piano part, leaving myself to play the cello part and my daughter to play the violin part.

However whilst listening to midi file through headphones and therefore through the synthesiser, I can hear all 3 parts, with the violin being played by the piano, if switch to playback through the piano I can only get the violin part played.

Can anyone help me with how I can choose through just the disklavier menu system to have the piano part played back through the piano? Or do I have to edit the file using a software package?

I now see that I will have to possibly covert the file to a different type before I can even start to re-assign he tracks to different instruments and control the overall volume. Can anyone give me a blow by blow checklist please?


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