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what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

2010-07-06 by varipapa

I use an Apple AirPort Extreme which is very easy to set up and works great with the Mark 4. It is a dual band 2.4/5 GHz a/b/g + n device and works well with pretty much any WiFi device.

http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "marksletters2" <marksletters2@...> wrote:
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> does anyone use these...i have a mark 4...and i am new here. thank you, mark

Re: [disklavier] Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

2010-07-06 by Jack Brennen

For another option, you could use the TRENDnet TEW-647GA
gaming adapter.  I have two of these in my house, one for
my TV and one for my Disklavier, both of which use wired
Ethernet only.  The one on the Disklavier is tucked right
up under the piano; it's small enough to fit and after
initial setup, you never have to touch it again.  Once in
a blue moon, the adapter will "wedge" and stop carrying
traffic, but you just power cycle the adapter and you're
back up in two minutes.



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> I use an Apple AirPort Extreme which is very easy to set up and works great with the Mark 4. It is a dual band 2.4/5 GHz a/b/g + n device and works well with pretty much any WiFi device.
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> http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/
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> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "marksletters2" <marksletters2@...> wrote:
>> does anyone use these...i have a mark 4...and i am new here. thank you, mark
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Re: [disklavier] Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

2010-07-07 by mark wilson

at the apple store they tell me the airport is a wireless transmitter....
 
a BRIDGE is a wireless reciever 
 
how do you connect the airport to the i/o unit of your mark 4?
 
thank you....mark

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From: varipapa <robert@varipapa.com>
Subject: [disklavier] Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 9:56 AM


  



I use an Apple AirPort Extreme which is very easy to set up and works great with the Mark 4. It is a dual band 2.4/5 GHz a/b/g + n device and works well with pretty much any WiFi device.

http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "marksletters2" <marksletters2@...> wrote:
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> does anyone use these...i have a mark 4...and i am new here. thank you, mark

Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

2010-07-07 by varipapa

The Airport Extreme is a wireless router/bridge all in one. Just connect your cable modem or other 'internet' box to the WAN port.

There are 4 LAN ports too, one of which can be used to connect the Mark 4.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, mark wilson <marksletters2@...> wrote:
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> at the apple store they tell me the airport is a wireless transmitter....
> a BRIDGE is a wireless reciever 
> 
> how do you connect the airport to the i/o unit of your mark 4?

Re: [disklavier] Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

2010-07-08 by George F. Litterst

Good morning, everyone.

I think that the conversation has become confused. The question is really this:

What device do many Mark IV owners connect to the ethernet port of their Disklavier to that the Disklavier can connect wirelessly from that point to a wi-fi router (such as the Airport Extreme). The device is question is known as a wireless bridge because it wireless bridges the distance that would normally be connected with a cable. The Airport Extreme is not a wireless bridge.

It is true that the Disklavier has a wi-fi feature, but its purpose is to connect to the PRC-100 or to the tablet controller. Therefore, if you want wireless connectivity to your local area network, you need a wireless bridge.

I have one such device that was made by Buffalo. However, Buffalo was sued over this product, and I don't believe that it is available in this country any more. 

It would be interesting to know what other people use. I know some have reported success using an Apple Airport Express. I was never able to get mine to work in this capacity.

Regards,
PianoBench

www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com
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On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:09 AM, varipapa wrote:

> The Airport Extreme is a wireless router/bridge all in one. Just connect your cable modem or other 'internet' box to the WAN port.
> 
> There are 4 LAN ports too, one of which can be used to connect the Mark 4.
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, mark wilson <marksletters2@...> wrote:
> >
> > at the apple store they tell me the airport is a wireless transmitter....
> > a BRIDGE is a wireless reciever 
> > 
> > how do you connect the airport to the i/o unit of your mark 4?.
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Re: [disklavier] Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

2010-07-08 by George Kong

Good Morning George,

I've been following this subject in the group discussion and agree that 
the conversation is moving in and out (like most conversations) of the 
primary question at hand.  To answer your question the following is what I'm 
using:

1.  On the PC side, I have a basic wireless router (D-Link) set up (i.e. cable 
modem connected to the wireless router and desktop PC).  My home wireless setup 
is also WPA-PSK secured (i.e. requiring additional security settings and 
passcodes be set on any other wireless devices connected to my wireless home 
network).

2.  On the Disklavier side (I have a Mark IV and Ver. 4.0 system software), I 
have an ethernet LAN cable connected between the LAN port from the Disklavier IO 
Center and a Pelican Wireless Gaming Adapter.  The Pelican unit provides the 
wireless connectivity between the Disklavier and my home network/web.  The 
Pelican wireless adapter is primarily aimed at X-Box users/gamers who wants to 
connect their X-Boxes wirelessly to the internet so they can play games with 
others across the web.  Despite the name, the Pelican unit is a wireless network 
adapter and access point.   One needs to perform an initial setup and 
configure the Pelican unit to connect to the home wireless network first 
prior to making the LAN connection to the Disklavier.  On the Disklavier side, 
the System Network setup is set to DHCP.  


The overall set up is fairly simple and it works well for me.  I used it 
successfully for downloading and upgrading the system software and using the 
Disklavier Radio and IDC application.  Our Disklavier is normally powered off 
when not in use.  Ocassionally I have to "reboot" the Pelican unit (unplug the 
power for a few seconds) and reset the System Network settings to re-establish 
the wireless connections.

 BTW - I also have 50 ft length ethernet LAN cable just in case (LOL).  One note 
- I personally do not like the adapters that uses the regular home AC outlet 
ports to make LAN connections between devices.  I'm sure they are designed 
correctly but I'm not comfortable with them.

Best Regards,
George Kong   




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From: George F. Litterst <PianoBench@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 8:12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best 
with disklaviers ??

  
Good morning, everyone. 

I think that the conversation has become confused. The question is really this:

What device do many Mark IV owners connect to the ethernet port of their 
Disklavier to that the Disklavier can connect wirelessly from that point to a 
wi-fi router (such as the Airport Extreme). The device is question is known as a 
wireless bridge because it wireless bridges the distance that would normally be 
connected with a cable. The Airport Extreme is not a wireless bridge.

It is true that the Disklavier has a wi-fi feature, but its purpose is to 
connect to the PRC-100 or to the tablet controller. Therefore, if you want 
wireless connectivity to your local area network, you need a wireless bridge.

I have one such device that was made by Buffalo. However, Buffalo was sued over 
this product, and I don't believe that it is available in this country any 
more. 

It would be interesting to know what other people use. I know some have reported 
success using an Apple Airport Express. I was never able to get mine to work in 
this capacity.

Regards,
PianoBench


www.georgelitterst. com 
www.timewarptech. com
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On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:09 AM, varipapa wrote:

  
>The Airport Extreme is a wireless router/bridge all in one. Just connect your 
>cable modem or other 'internet' box to the WAN port.
>
>There are 4 LAN ports too, one of which can be used to connect the Mark 4.
>
>--- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, mark wilson <marksletters2@ ...> wrote:
>>
>> at the apple store they tell me the airport is a wireless transmitter. ...
>> a BRIDGE is a wireless reciever 
>> 
>> how do you connect the airport to the i/o unit of your mark 4?.

RE: [disklavier] Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

2010-07-08 by Jeff Kovitz

I just use  a Dlink dir615 wireless router in my house - the piano is plugged into the network (ergo the router) - and I can access it no problem with the Iphone/Ipad app.
I use a netbook that talks to the internal wifi to use DKVBrowser. Both work just perfectly.
DKVBrowser is the best solution for managing the music and making playlists, copying, renaming etc.
The Iphone/Ipad app is the most convenient for running/playing the piano "from the couch"

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George F. Litterst
Sent: July-08-10 6:12 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??



Good morning, everyone.

I think that the conversation has become confused. The question is really this:

What device do many Mark IV owners connect to the ethernet port of their Disklavier to that the Disklavier can connect wirelessly from that point to a wi-fi router (such as the Airport Extreme). The device is question is known as a wireless bridge because it wireless bridges the distance that would normally be connected with a cable. The Airport Extreme is not a wireless bridge.

It is true that the Disklavier has a wi-fi feature, but its purpose is to connect to the PRC-100 or to the tablet controller. Therefore, if you want wireless connectivity to your local area network, you need a wireless bridge.

I have one such device that was made by Buffalo. However, Buffalo was sued over this product, and I don't believe that it is available in this country any more.

It would be interesting to know what other people use. I know some have reported success using an Apple Airport Express. I was never able to get mine to work in this capacity.

Regards,
PianoBench

www.georgelitterst.com<http://www.georgelitterst.com/>
www.timewarptech.com<http://www.timewarptech.com/>

On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:09 AM, varipapa wrote:




The Airport Extreme is a wireless router/bridge all in one. Just connect your cable modem or other 'internet' box to the WAN port.

There are 4 LAN ports too, one of which can be used to connect the Mark 4.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com>, mark wilson <marksletters2@...> wrote:
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> at the apple store they tell me the airport is a wireless transmitter....
> a BRIDGE is a wireless reciever
>
> how do you connect the airport to the i/o unit of your mark 4?.

DKC-850 questions

2010-07-09 by dsmith941@centurylink.net

Hello, two question re the DKC-850:  
1.   Will it let the piano play softer than the mark  box?  I get different answers from different people on this.  

2.  What should I expect to pay for the DKC-850 if I install it myself?  

Thanks again, and thanks, George for the Manual link.

Dave

Re: [disklavier] DKC-850 questions

2010-07-09 by dsmith941@centurylink.net

Opps, sorry, my previous question 1 should have said Mark III box
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Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:15 PM

Dave
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [disklavier] DKC-850 questions


  




Hello, two question re the DKC-850:  
1.   Will it let the piano play softer than the mark  box?  I get different answers from different people on this.  

2.  What should I expect to pay for the DKC-850 if I install it myself?  

Thanks again, and thanks, George for the Manual link.

Dave

RE: [disklavier] DKC-850 questions

2010-07-09 by Phil Becker

On my DC3PRO, the DKC-850 does allow softer playing than the old controller
did.  I don't know how to quantify "how much softer" but it is noticable.
 
Having said that, playing softer was never an issue for me in my setting,
and I don't use the piano that way, but in testing things out I did notice
that turning the volume all the way down is softer than the old controller
turned all the way down.
 

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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of dsmith941@...
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:16 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] DKC-850 questions


  


 

Hello, two question re the DKC-850:  
1.   Will it let the piano play softer than the mark  box?  I get different
answers from different people on this.  
 
2.  What should I expect to pay for the DKC-850 if I install it myself?  
 
Thanks again, and thanks, George for the Manual link.
 
Dave

RE: [disklavier] DKC-850 questions

2010-07-09 by Bill Brandom

Hello Dave,

1) No. The piano’s dynamic range doesn’t change as a result of the DKC-850 unit.

2) $1,495 suggested retail

Bill

Bill Brandom

Senior Technical Manager

Keyboard Division

Yamaha Corporation of America

Phone: 714-522-9417 FAX: 714-522-9301

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dsmith941@centurylink.net
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:16 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] DKC-850 questions




Hello, two question re the DKC-850:

1. Will it let the piano play softer than the mark box? I get different answers from different people on this.

2. What should I expect to pay for the DKC-850 if I install it myself?

Thanks again, and thanks, George for the Manual link.

Dave




Re: [disklavier] DKC-850 questions

2010-07-09 by George F. Litterst

Good afternoon, everyone.

Phil, I found your comment very interesting regarding the lower volume on your DC3Pro when set to the lowest setting. I have a DC6Pro and will be interested to check this out.

I would point out to everyone that there is nothing about the upgrade that changes the solenoids or the other hardware components of the playback system. In other words, we can't expect an older model piano to play beyond its physical capabilities when used with the DKC-850.

In theory, it is conceivable that the DKC-850 was programmed to send lower velocity data to the keys on playback at the lowest volume setting--I don't know. In any case, I do know that the pre-Mark IV Pro is way more capable of soft playing than other pre-Mark IV models.

Regards,
PianoBench


On Jul 9, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Phil Becker wrote:


On my DC3PRO, the DKC-850 does allow softer playing than the old controller did. I don't know how to quantify "how much softer" but it is noticable.
Having said that, playing softer was never an issue for me in my setting, and I don't use the piano that way, but in testing things out I did notice that turning the volume all the way down is softer than the old controller turned all the way down.

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dsmith941@centurylink.net
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:16 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] DKC-850 questions



Hello, two question re the DKC-850:
1. Will it let the piano play softer than the mark box? I get different answers from different people on this.
2. What should I expect to pay for the DKC-850 if I install it myself?
Thanks again, and thanks, George for the Manual link.
Dave



Re: [disklavier] what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??

2010-08-12 by Brij Agarwal

I use the Linksys WGA54G gaming adapter, which I believe may have been discontinued.  I had initially borrowed a Linksys "wireless bridge" which didn't work at all.  The tipoff should have been that the Linksys "wireless bridge" came with a device driver CD which I obviously couldn't install on the DKV.  The WGA54G has worked flawlessly.
 
Brij

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From: marksletters2 <marksletters2@...>
Subject: [disklavier] what wireless internet ethernet bridge works best with disklaviers ??
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 7:52 PM


  



does anyone use these...i have a mark 4...and i am new here. thank you, mark

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