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2010-02-21 by jburdick727
I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module.
2010-02-21 by Ritchie DeCarlo
Nice! What is the estimated selling price of this module?? ________________________________ From: jburdick727 <jburdick727@hotmail.com> To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 4:09:35 PM Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module.
2010-02-21 by John Mahoney
At 04:09 PM 2/21/2010, jburdick727 wrote: >I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of >using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module >look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower >overall module price. ... Looks good to me, though I'm not an "every module must look totally uniform" fetishist. I'm also in favor of using smaller knobs, in places. For instance, I think Scott Juskiw's Tellun layout makes a lot of sense. The Encore frequency shifter also makes good use of varied knob sizes (though it's not the best-looking module in my synth, mainly because the large lettering is too large). But, as usual, I digress. John
2010-02-22 by ty hodson
Good looking module! ty _______________ <http://sublevel9.net> http://sublevel9.net
From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jburdick727 Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:10 PM To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module. Image removed by sender.
2010-02-22 by jburdick727
The price of the assembled and tested unit is $219. I am also offering it as a kit for $150. The unit has a lot of parts so it would not be a good beginner kit, but someone with good soldering skills and patience shouldn't have a problem with it. I also pre-assemble all of the MTA headers so the assembler only needs to solder the wires to the pots, switches and jacks. --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Ritchie DeCarlo <ritchiedrums@...> wrote:
> > Nice! > What is the estimated selling price of this module?? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: jburdick727 <jburdick727@...> > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 4:09:35 PM > Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design > > Â > I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module. >
2010-02-22 by jburdick727
I probably should have clarified the differences a bit more in my original post. The panel mechanically is exactly the same as a dotcom or Moog panel. The panel is 1/16 inch thick, the edges of the panel are folded and the panel width is 4.250 inches (for a 2 MU panel) so it fills the entire module space. The main difference is that the unpainted area is not masked onto the flat area of the panel. I am using an electrostatic painting process and that little bit of masking is proving to be difficult. --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Brian Whittington <analoguelist@...> wrote:
> > The differences I see in the design are a white line and a flat panel. Particularly looking at the gaps between the modules in your photo, I think a panel that conforms to Dotcom's physical standards would be worth the extra money. And the little line on the original, while hardly essential, actually adds a bit of clarity to the panel layout. > > Cheers, > Brian > > > > ________________________________ > From: jburdick727 <jburdick727@...> > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 3:09:35 PM > Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design > > > > > I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module. >
2010-02-22 by Brian Whittington
The differences I see in the design are a white line and a flat panel. Particularly looking at the gaps between the modules in your photo, I think a panel that conforms to Dotcom's physical standards would be worth the extra money. And the little line on the original, while hardly essential, actually adds a bit of clarity to the panel layout. Cheers, Brian ________________________________ From: jburdick727 <jburdick727@hotmail.com> To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 3:09:35 PM Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module.
2010-02-22 by Brian Whittington
PS. Nice features for the dual LFO, for sure. I personally would vote strongly against the change in panel format, though. You might as well release the module in MOTM format if you are going to do that. The people that don't care what their panels look like would still buy it, but you seem to have something here that doesn't properly fit Dotcom or MOTM formats. It just seems like a tough sell to me. Cheers, Brian ________________________________ From: jburdick727 <jburdick727@hotmail.com> To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 3:09:35 PM Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module.
2010-02-22 by Gordon Van Huizen
The price of the assembled and tested unit is $219. I am also offering it as a kit for $150. The unit has a lot of parts so it would not be a good beginner kit, but someone with good soldering skills and patience shouldn't have a problem with it. I also pre-assemble all of the MTA headers so the assembler only needs to solder the wires to the pots, switches and jacks.
--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Ritchie DeCarlo ...> wrote:
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> What is the estimated selling price of this module??
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> I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module.
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2010-02-23 by jburdick727
From the posts here and emails I have received on this subject, I think I have come to the conclusion that I am going to rework the panels so that they more closely match other dotcom panels. The panel for the LFO will look like the prototype shown on my website. The price will still remain at $219 for the assembled unit. As far as lead time goes, of course I am able to deliver the unit with the current panel immediately. Making the changes will probably mean another two to three weeks for the new version to be available in any quantity. The basic metal work is usable but I will need to repaint and rescreen the panels that I have. I can give a little hint of the new modules coming up. They will include a 2 MU mixer/processor panel and a two channel MIDI to CV module. Both units have been prototyped and I am waiting to get the PC boards back from fabrication. --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Van Huizen <gvh@...> wrote:
> > Is this the price for the original panel format or the revised one? What is the expected lead time? > > I strongly prefer the original panel format and would pay more for it if necessary...but would likely buy the panel either way. > > Congrats on producing the VC-LFO! I'm anxious to see what else you have planned (beyond the power distro board). > > Gordon > > On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:00 PM, jburdick727 wrote: > > The price of the assembled and tested unit is $219. I am also offering it as a kit for $150. The unit has a lot of parts so it would not be a good beginner kit, but someone with good soldering skills and patience shouldn't have a problem with it. I also pre-assemble all of the MTA headers so the assembler only needs to solder the wires to the pots, switches and jacks. > > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Ritchie DeCarlo <ritchiedrums@> wrote: > > > > Nice! > > What is the estimated selling price of this module?? > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: jburdick727 <jburdick727@> > > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 4:09:35 PM > > Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design > > > > Â > > I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module. > > >
2010-02-23 by rrsw_ccs
I've got a few rolls of the special green masking tape for powder coating. Works fine and easy to do. Use anything else and you are asking for issues. --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" <jburdick727@...> wrote:
> > From the posts here and emails I have received on this subject, I think I have come to the conclusion that I am going to rework the panels so that they more closely match other dotcom panels. The panel for the LFO will look like the prototype shown on my website. The price will still remain at $219 for the assembled unit. > > As far as lead time goes, of course I am able to deliver the unit with the current panel immediately. Making the changes will probably mean another two to three weeks for the new version to be available in any quantity. The basic metal work is usable but I will need to repaint and rescreen the panels that I have. > > I can give a little hint of the new modules coming up. They will include a 2 MU mixer/processor panel and a two channel MIDI to CV module. Both units have been prototyped and I am waiting to get the PC boards back from fabrication. > > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Van Huizen <gvh@> wrote: > > > > Is this the price for the original panel format or the revised one? What is the expected lead time? > > > > I strongly prefer the original panel format and would pay more for it if necessary...but would likely buy the panel either way. > > > > Congrats on producing the VC-LFO! I'm anxious to see what else you have planned (beyond the power distro board). > > > > Gordon > > > > On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:00 PM, jburdick727 wrote: > > > > The price of the assembled and tested unit is $219. I am also offering it as a kit for $150. The unit has a lot of parts so it would not be a good beginner kit, but someone with good soldering skills and patience shouldn't have a problem with it. I also pre-assemble all of the MTA headers so the assembler only needs to solder the wires to the pots, switches and jacks. > > > > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Ritchie DeCarlo <ritchiedrums@> wrote: > > > > > > Nice! > > > What is the estimated selling price of this module?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: jburdick727 <jburdick727@> > > > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 4:09:35 PM > > > Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design > > > > > > Â > > > I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module. > > > > > >
2010-02-24 by jburdick727
I use a Kapton tape to do the masking but I have found that due to the thickness and stiffness of the tape and the very small radius of the bend, that the tape tends to lift at the ends. I have devised a method where the panel sits in a "cradle" of styrofoam lined with aluminum foil (to conduct the charge back to the paint unit). This allows me to keep the tape relatively flat with respect to the panel surface. --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "rrsw_ccs" <79flh@...> wrote:
> > > I've got a few rolls of the special green masking tape for powder coating. Works fine and easy to do. Use anything else and you are asking for issues. > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" <jburdick727@> wrote: > > > > From the posts here and emails I have received on this subject, I think I have come to the conclusion that I am going to rework the panels so that they more closely match other dotcom panels. The panel for the LFO will look like the prototype shown on my website. The price will still remain at $219 for the assembled unit. > > > > As far as lead time goes, of course I am able to deliver the unit with the current panel immediately. Making the changes will probably mean another two to three weeks for the new version to be available in any quantity. The basic metal work is usable but I will need to repaint and rescreen the panels that I have. > > > > I can give a little hint of the new modules coming up. They will include a 2 MU mixer/processor panel and a two channel MIDI to CV module. Both units have been prototyped and I am waiting to get the PC boards back from fabrication. > > > > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Van Huizen <gvh@> wrote: > > > > > > Is this the price for the original panel format or the revised one? What is the expected lead time? > > > > > > I strongly prefer the original panel format and would pay more for it if necessary...but would likely buy the panel either way. > > > > > > Congrats on producing the VC-LFO! I'm anxious to see what else you have planned (beyond the power distro board). > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:00 PM, jburdick727 wrote: > > > > > > The price of the assembled and tested unit is $219. I am also offering it as a kit for $150. The unit has a lot of parts so it would not be a good beginner kit, but someone with good soldering skills and patience shouldn't have a problem with it. I also pre-assemble all of the MTA headers so the assembler only needs to solder the wires to the pots, switches and jacks. > > > > > > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Ritchie DeCarlo <ritchiedrums@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nice! > > > > What is the estimated selling price of this module?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: jburdick727 <jburdick727@> > > > > To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 4:09:35 PM > > > > Subject: [dotcomformat] New Module Design > > > > > > > > Â > > > > I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a dual VCA module. > > > > > > > > > >
2010-04-27 by Doug
Hi Folks, This is my first day and first post to this forum. Glad to be here, looks like a lively bunch! :-) I too am designing a line a modules and apparently like most of you, the panel is a Holy Grail. My SteamPunk inspired modular uses black PCB material as the subtrate and I just used the coper for the lettering etc. I never originally intended it to look like the DOTCOMs, but now that I'm planning on making modules for sale (hope this doesn't get me kicked out of here..) the panel struggle is ON! I'm considering using the same black PCB technique but using aluminum "L" brackets the protrude slightly from the black panels for strength as well a giving it a more .COM look. The lettering would be tin plate coated in a satin laquer, giving a satin silvery look. I can then have the panels made almost completely by a board house, mounting the L brackets here. If anyone's interested, I can mock-up something to show the PCB/L bracket combo. Doug Slocum --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" <jburdick727@...> wrote:
> > > I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using > a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to > make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module > price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this > new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a > dual VCA module. >
2010-04-27 by Gordon Van Huizen
Hi Folks,
This is my first day and first post to this forum. Glad to be here, looks like a lively bunch! :-)
I too am designing a line a modules and apparently like most of you, the panel is a Holy Grail. My SteamPunk inspired modular uses black PCB material as the subtrate and I just used the coper for the lettering etc. I never originally intended it to look like the DOTCOMs, but now that I'm planning on making modules for sale (hope this doesn't get me kicked out of here..) the panel struggle is ON!
I'm considering using the same black PCB technique but using aluminum "L" brackets the protrude slightly from the black panels for strength as well a giving it a more .COM look. The lettering would be tin plate coated in a satin laquer, giving a satin silvery look. I can then have the panels made almost completely by a board house, mounting the L brackets here.
If anyone's interested, I can mock-up something to show the PCB/L bracket combo.
Doug Slocum
--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" ...> wrote:
>
>
> I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using
> a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to
> make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module
> price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this
> new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a
> dual VCA module.
>
2010-04-27 by Doug
Hi, Thanks all, but I feel like I'm stealing a thread. It there a way a moderator can move this to a new thread? Thanks, Doug --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" <dougslocum@...> wrote:
> > Hi Folks, > > This is my first day and first post to this forum. Glad to be here, looks like a lively bunch! :-) > > I too am designing a line a modules and apparently like most of you, the panel is a Holy Grail. My SteamPunk inspired modular uses black PCB material as the subtrate and I just used the coper for the lettering etc. I never originally intended it to look like the DOTCOMs, but now that I'm planning on making modules for sale (hope this doesn't get me kicked out of here..) the panel struggle is ON! > > I'm considering using the same black PCB technique but using aluminum "L" brackets the protrude slightly from the black panels for strength as well a giving it a more .COM look. The lettering would be tin plate coated in a satin laquer, giving a satin silvery look. I can then have the panels made almost completely by a board house, mounting the L brackets here. > > If anyone's interested, I can mock-up something to show the PCB/L bracket combo. > > Doug Slocum > > --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" <jburdick727@> wrote: > > > > > > I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using > > a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to > > make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module > > price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this > > new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a > > dual VCA module. > > >
2010-04-27 by Brian Whittington
I agree. I would enjoy seeing what you have in mind. What kind of module designs you are considering? Cheers, Brian ________________________________ From: Gordon Van Huizen <gvh@essexsoundlab.com> To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 12:44:16 PM Subject: Re: [dotcomformat] Re: New Module Design Welcome, Doug. I really loved the look of your SteamPunk synth. I'm going to contradict my usual "purist" stance on MU-format panels and say that I'd be quite interested in seeing how you might blend something of the SteamPunk aesthetic with something more Moog-like. Gordon
On Apr 27, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Doug wrote: > > > > > > > >Hi Folks, > >>This is my first day and first post to this forum. Glad to be here, looks like a lively bunch! :-) > >>I too am designing a line a modules and apparently like most of you, the panel is a Holy Grail. My SteamPunk inspired modular uses black PCB material as the subtrate and I just used the coper for the lettering etc. I never originally intended it to look like the DOTCOMs, but now that I'm planning on making modules for sale (hope this doesn't get me kicked out of here..) the panel struggle is ON! > >>I'm considering using the same black PCB technique but using aluminum "L" brackets the protrude slightly from the black panels for strength as well a giving it a more .COM look. The lettering would be tin plate coated in a satin laquer, giving a satin silvery look. I can then have the panels made almost completely by a board house, mounting the L brackets here. > >>If anyone's interested, I can mock-up something to show the PCB/L bracket combo. > >>Doug Slocum
2010-04-28 by ~Morbius~
----- Original Message -----From: DougSent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:39 PMSubject: [dotcomformat] Re: New Module DesignHi,
Thanks all, but I feel like I'm stealing a thread. It there a way a moderator can move this to a new thread?
Thanks,
Doug
--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> This is my first day and first post to this forum. Glad to be here, looks like a lively bunch! :-)
>
> I too am designing a line a modules and apparently like most of you, the panel is a Holy Grail. My SteamPunk inspired modular uses black PCB material as the subtrate and I just used the coper for the lettering etc. I never originally intended it to look like the DOTCOMs, but now that I'm planning on making modules for sale (hope this doesn't get me kicked out of here..) the panel struggle is ON!
>
> I'm considering using the same black PCB technique but using aluminum "L" brackets the protrude slightly from the black panels for strength as well a giving it a more .COM look. The lettering would be tin plate coated in a satin laquer, giving a satin silvery look. I can then have the panels made almost completely by a board house, mounting the L brackets here.
>
> If anyone's interested, I can mock-up something to show the PCB/L bracket combo.
>
> Doug Slocum
>
> --- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "jburdick727" > wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am building some new dotcom format modules and I am thinking of using
> > a new module design. The reason for simplifying the module look is to
> > make it simpler and easier to make resulting in a lower overall module
> > price. I am curious to know what other dotcom users might think of this
> > new "look". Here is a picture of a new dual LFO module combined with a
> > dual VCA module.
> >
>