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[elektron] Re: can you switch patterns "live" whilst in play mode?

2005-01-22 by crvenazvezda91

Scott,

I'd be happy to write it up / doll it up; maybe get some pictures into
it as well if you want?

What's the site?

Rusty

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:
> Wow, this is great stuff.  Would you mind if I used this on an upcoming 
> website as a MD/RS7k tutorial?
> 
> /Scott
> 
> crvenazvezda91 wrote:
> 
> >I'm still awake.... thank god for coffee huh?
> >
> >Note: Don't have a SFX-60, so not too sure...
> >
> >For live use, the RS7000 is the master sequencer and I have my
> >MachineDrum set up in "Global" (I use 7 for RS7 :P)
> >
> >Go into: Global -> Midi -> Map Editor
> >
> >I have mine set up as:
> >
> >Track:
> >01-BD = C -2 (Lowest key availble)
> >02-SD = C# -2
> >03-HT = D -2
> >etc etc
> >
> >Then I have:
> >
> >Pattern A 01 = E -1
> >Pattern A 02 = F -1
> >Pattern A 03 = F# -1
> >Pattern A 04 = G -1
> >
> >etc etc
> >
> >This allows me to either trigger the individual sounds from the RS7000
> >/ midi note.
> >
> >(Downside is there is only 128 midi notes available, to cover 16 drum
> >hits & 128 patterns.... so I sacrifice patterns H01 to H16)
> >
> >I want to have the Bass Drum? Midi Note = C -2
> >
> >It also allows me to trigger the patterns as well.
> >
> >I want to play Pattern A 04? Midi Note = G -1
> >(I just a single hit to turn on)
> >
> >This will play the MachineDrum pattern from beginning to end.
> >(Regardless of length of pattern, unless it receives a new note on
> >message to trigger a new pattern)
> >
> >So for a 4 bar loop I'll have:
> >
> >001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> >002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> >003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> >004-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> >
> >(Note that I'm retriggering the pattern at the beginning of each bar)
> >
> >Q: But what if I have a 32 step pattern? What if I have a roll in the
> >2nd half of the pattern?
> >
> >A: Easy, you trigger at the beginning of each pattern for when you
> >DON'T want the roll, leave it running when you do:
> >
> >001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
> >002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
> >003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 32 steps)
> >
> >(Note that I'm retriggering the pattern at the beginning of bar 1, 2 &
> >3; this will cutoff/reset the previous pattern)
> >
> >At 003-000 I'm triggering the pattern again, but I am NOT interupting
> >at all (at 004-000) so it will play for the full 32 steps (2 bars)
> >
> >From an RS7000 / RM1x perspective you can also do what I do:
> >
> >001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> >002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> >003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> >
> >003-240 Physically mute the channel on the RS7000
> >
> >xxx 004-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> >
> >004-240 Physically un-mute the channel on the RS7000
> >
> >Note: As I've muted the channel on the RS7000 at 003-240 it will not
> >send out a new trigger at 004-001, and hence the pattern started at
> >003-000 will play for 32 steps (2 bars)
> >
> >I'll then un-mute the the channel on the RS7000 at 004-240 and it will
> >go back to normal.
> >
> >Q: Can I do this mutliple time? With different MD patterns?
> >
> >A: Of course, try this:
> >
> >001-000 E -1 (Play Pattern A 01, 16 steps)
> >002-000 F# -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 08 steps)
> >002-240 F -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
> >003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 32 steps)
> >
> >Note: Bear in mind that where I've shown xx steps above, it's based on
> >how many steps will play on the MD; NOT necessarily the length of the
> >actual pattern.
> >
> >---------
> >
> >Side-Note; just re-read your post, and maybe got a bit sidetracked
> >there :)
> >
> >Q: Can you switch patterns "live" whilst in play mode?
> >
> >A: Easy. 
> >
> >Select Pattern A01
> >Press Play
> >Select Pattern A12 (It will switch at the end of the bar)
> >
> >-----------
> >
> >Quote: the real beauty on the rm1x is that you dont even have to wait
> >for the bar/measure to end...patterns are switched the minute you
> >press the button?
> >
> >Reply: I'll be honest and say that I'm not sure on this one....
> >
> >(I have my RS7000 section change quantization set to bar; I know what
> >your talking about, and it goes down to 1/16th, but I never use it..
> >I'm driving too many cc's and sysex that it would be a pain... plus it
> >can really sound shite live...)
> >
> >In fact I don't think it is possible when in "Pattern" mode.
> >
> >In "Song" mode, yes it is. (Kind of)
> >
> >You define which pattern plays when, at what step they start and
> >finish, how many times they repeat, which "tracks" are muted etc
> >(you can also insert tempo changes as well)
> >
> >01 Play Pattern A 01 Start at Step 01 - Finish at Step 16 - Repeat x4
> >02 Play Pattern B 12 Start at Step 01 - Finish at Step 16 - Repeat x2
> >03 Play Pattern H 07 Start at Step 09 - Finish at Step 11 - Repeat x6
> >04 Play Pattern E 09 Start at Step 32 - Finish at Step 32 - Repeat x20
> >05 Play Pattern C 15 Start at Step 05 - Finish at Step 27 - Repeat x4
> >
> >Make sense?
> >
> >Note: I've written entire tracks based on one 16 step pattern and some
> >clever use of start / finish offsets, tempo changes and repeats.
> >
> >-----------
> >
> >Quote: also, patterns on it are arranged from a to p horizontally
> >across the bottom of the keyboard. on the MnM how do you switch
> >patterns? is it via the keyboard itself?
> >
> >Reply: This is for the MachinDrum.....
> >
> >On the left side of the unit are 4 buttons for banks "A to D" or "E to
> >H"; (Labled: A/E, B/F, C/G, D/H)
> >
> >There is also a "Bank Select" button that toggles between which is
> >active, "A to D" or "E to H"
> >
> >(If you can look at a picture of it you will see what I mean....)
> >
> >So; the MachineDrum is playing... (Lets say Pattern A01) 
> >
> >And I want to switch to Pattern A15:
> >
> >I press and hold button "A/E" and press the "15" button. (along the
> >bottom / the actual grid entry / drum trigger)
> >
> >Now I want to switch to Pattern D06:
> >
> >I press and hold button "D/H" and press the "06" button. 
> >
> >Now I want to switch to Pattern G09:
> >
> >I press the "Bank Select" button to go from banks "A to D" to "E to H"
> >
> >I press and hold button "C/G" and press the "09" button. 
> >
> >-----------
> >
> >I hope that helps?
> >
> >Rusty
> >
> >
> >-----------
> >--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...>
> >wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Actually, I'm curious, too.  I have an SFX-60 and RS7000.  Maybe
> >>    
> >>
> >you 
> >  
> >
> >>guys can keep it on the list?
> >>
> >>/Scott
> >>
> >>crvenazvezda91 wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>RS7000 & MachineDrum owner here..
> >>>
> >>>Fire me some questions at:
> >>>
> >>>redstar96 AT hotmail
> >>>
> >>>I'll do my best to answer...
> >>>
> >>>(Sorry, very late at night here and I'm about to crash)
> >>>
> >>>Rusty
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "shekharaugust1973"
> >>><shekhardhain@s...> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>that's a simple enough question isnt it?
> >>>>
> >>>>you can on the rm1x, rs7000 et al
> >>>>
> >>>>the real beauty on the rm1x is that you dont even have to wait
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >for 
> >  
> >
> >>>>the bar/measure to end...patters are switched the minute you
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >press 
> >  
> >
> >>>>the button?
> >>>>
> >>>>also, patterns on it are arranged from a to p horizontally across
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >the 
> >  
> >
> >>>>bottom of the keyboard. on the MnM how do you switch patterns? is
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >it 
> >  
> >
> >>>>via the keyboard itself?
> >>>>
> >>>>cheers and thanks in advance
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