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[elektron] Re: can you switch patterns "live" whilst in play mode?

2005-01-22 by crvenazvezda91

I had some spare time on my hands today, so I've nearly finished the
rough draft of a full/proper job, with screenshots and everything....

Rusty

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman"
<moving808@e...> wrote:
> 
> Wow that was a hell of a tutorial.  Even if I don't have an rs7k it
> still gave me some ideas to trigger the md from another sequencer.
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "crvenazvezda91"
> <crvenazvezda91@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Scott,
> > 
> > I'd be happy to write it up / doll it up; maybe get some pictures into
> > it as well if you want?
> > 
> > What's the site?
> > 
> > Rusty
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...>
> wrote:
> > > Wow, this is great stuff.  Would you mind if I used this on an
> upcoming 
> > > website as a MD/RS7k tutorial?
> > > 
> > > /Scott
> > > 
> > > crvenazvezda91 wrote:
> > > 
> > > >I'm still awake.... thank god for coffee huh?
> > > >
> > > >Note: Don't have a SFX-60, so not too sure...
> > > >
> > > >For live use, the RS7000 is the master sequencer and I have my
> > > >MachineDrum set up in "Global" (I use 7 for RS7 :P)
> > > >
> > > >Go into: Global -> Midi -> Map Editor
> > > >
> > > >I have mine set up as:
> > > >
> > > >Track:
> > > >01-BD = C -2 (Lowest key availble)
> > > >02-SD = C# -2
> > > >03-HT = D -2
> > > >etc etc
> > > >
> > > >Then I have:
> > > >
> > > >Pattern A 01 = E -1
> > > >Pattern A 02 = F -1
> > > >Pattern A 03 = F# -1
> > > >Pattern A 04 = G -1
> > > >
> > > >etc etc
> > > >
> > > >This allows me to either trigger the individual sounds from the
> RS7000
> > > >/ midi note.
> > > >
> > > >(Downside is there is only 128 midi notes available, to cover
16 drum
> > > >hits & 128 patterns.... so I sacrifice patterns H01 to H16)
> > > >
> > > >I want to have the Bass Drum? Midi Note = C -2
> > > >
> > > >It also allows me to trigger the patterns as well.
> > > >
> > > >I want to play Pattern A 04? Midi Note = G -1
> > > >(I just a single hit to turn on)
> > > >
> > > >This will play the MachineDrum pattern from beginning to end.
> > > >(Regardless of length of pattern, unless it receives a new note on
> > > >message to trigger a new pattern)
> > > >
> > > >So for a 4 bar loop I'll have:
> > > >
> > > >001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> > > >002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> > > >003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> > > >004-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> > > >
> > > >(Note that I'm retriggering the pattern at the beginning of
each bar)
> > > >
> > > >Q: But what if I have a 32 step pattern? What if I have a roll
in the
> > > >2nd half of the pattern?
> > > >
> > > >A: Easy, you trigger at the beginning of each pattern for when you
> > > >DON'T want the roll, leave it running when you do:
> > > >
> > > >001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
> > > >002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
> > > >003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 32 steps)
> > > >
> > > >(Note that I'm retriggering the pattern at the beginning of bar
> 1, 2 &
> > > >3; this will cutoff/reset the previous pattern)
> > > >
> > > >At 003-000 I'm triggering the pattern again, but I am NOT
interupting
> > > >at all (at 004-000) so it will play for the full 32 steps (2 bars)
> > > >
> > > >From an RS7000 / RM1x perspective you can also do what I do:
> > > >
> > > >001-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> > > >002-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> > > >003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> > > >
> > > >003-240 Physically mute the channel on the RS7000
> > > >
> > > >xxx 004-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04)
> > > >
> > > >004-240 Physically un-mute the channel on the RS7000
> > > >
> > > >Note: As I've muted the channel on the RS7000 at 003-240 it
will not
> > > >send out a new trigger at 004-001, and hence the pattern started at
> > > >003-000 will play for 32 steps (2 bars)
> > > >
> > > >I'll then un-mute the the channel on the RS7000 at 004-240 and it
> will
> > > >go back to normal.
> > > >
> > > >Q: Can I do this mutliple time? With different MD patterns?
> > > >
> > > >A: Of course, try this:
> > > >
> > > >001-000 E -1 (Play Pattern A 01, 16 steps)
> > > >002-000 F# -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 08 steps)
> > > >002-240 F -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 16 steps)
> > > >003-000 G -1 (Play Pattern A 04, 32 steps)
> > > >
> > > >Note: Bear in mind that where I've shown xx steps above, it's
> based on
> > > >how many steps will play on the MD; NOT necessarily the length
of the
> > > >actual pattern.
> > > >
> > > >---------
> > > >
> > > >Side-Note; just re-read your post, and maybe got a bit sidetracked
> > > >there :)
> > > >
> > > >Q: Can you switch patterns "live" whilst in play mode?
> > > >
> > > >A: Easy. 
> > > >
> > > >Select Pattern A01
> > > >Press Play
> > > >Select Pattern A12 (It will switch at the end of the bar)
> > > >
> > > >-----------
> > > >
> > > >Quote: the real beauty on the rm1x is that you dont even have
to wait
> > > >for the bar/measure to end...patterns are switched the minute you
> > > >press the button?
> > > >
> > > >Reply: I'll be honest and say that I'm not sure on this one....
> > > >
> > > >(I have my RS7000 section change quantization set to bar; I
know what
> > > >your talking about, and it goes down to 1/16th, but I never use
it..
> > > >I'm driving too many cc's and sysex that it would be a pain...
> plus it
> > > >can really sound shite live...)
> > > >
> > > >In fact I don't think it is possible when in "Pattern" mode.
> > > >
> > > >In "Song" mode, yes it is. (Kind of)
> > > >
> > > >You define which pattern plays when, at what step they start and
> > > >finish, how many times they repeat, which "tracks" are muted etc
> > > >(you can also insert tempo changes as well)
> > > >
> > > >01 Play Pattern A 01 Start at Step 01 - Finish at Step 16 -
Repeat x4
> > > >02 Play Pattern B 12 Start at Step 01 - Finish at Step 16 -
Repeat x2
> > > >03 Play Pattern H 07 Start at Step 09 - Finish at Step 11 -
Repeat x6
> > > >04 Play Pattern E 09 Start at Step 32 - Finish at Step 32 -
> Repeat x20
> > > >05 Play Pattern C 15 Start at Step 05 - Finish at Step 27 -
Repeat x4
> > > >
> > > >Make sense?
> > > >
> > > >Note: I've written entire tracks based on one 16 step pattern and
> some
> > > >clever use of start / finish offsets, tempo changes and repeats.
> > > >
> > > >-----------
> > > >
> > > >Quote: also, patterns on it are arranged from a to p horizontally
> > > >across the bottom of the keyboard. on the MnM how do you switch
> > > >patterns? is it via the keyboard itself?
> > > >
> > > >Reply: This is for the MachinDrum.....
> > > >
> > > >On the left side of the unit are 4 buttons for banks "A to D" or
> "E to
> > > >H"; (Labled: A/E, B/F, C/G, D/H)
> > > >
> > > >There is also a "Bank Select" button that toggles between which is
> > > >active, "A to D" or "E to H"
> > > >
> > > >(If you can look at a picture of it you will see what I mean....)
> > > >
> > > >So; the MachineDrum is playing... (Lets say Pattern A01) 
> > > >
> > > >And I want to switch to Pattern A15:
> > > >
> > > >I press and hold button "A/E" and press the "15" button. (along the
> > > >bottom / the actual grid entry / drum trigger)
> > > >
> > > >Now I want to switch to Pattern D06:
> > > >
> > > >I press and hold button "D/H" and press the "06" button. 
> > > >
> > > >Now I want to switch to Pattern G09:
> > > >
> > > >I press the "Bank Select" button to go from banks "A to D" to "E
> to H"
> > > >
> > > >I press and hold button "C/G" and press the "09" button. 
> > > >
> > > >-----------
> > > >
> > > >I hope that helps?
> > > >
> > > >Rusty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----------
> > > >--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>Actually, I'm curious, too.  I have an SFX-60 and RS7000.  Maybe
> > > >>    
> > > >>
> > > >you 
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>guys can keep it on the list?
> > > >>
> > > >>/Scott
> > > >>
> > > >>crvenazvezda91 wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>    
> > > >>
> > > >>>RS7000 & MachineDrum owner here..
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Fire me some questions at:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>redstar96 AT hotmail
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I'll do my best to answer...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>(Sorry, very late at night here and I'm about to crash)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Rusty
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "shekharaugust1973"
> > > >>><shekhardhain@s...> wrote:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>
> > > >>>      
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>that's a simple enough question isnt it?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>you can on the rm1x, rs7000 et al
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>the real beauty on the rm1x is that you dont even have to wait
> > > >>>>        
> > > >>>>
> > > >for 
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>>>the bar/measure to end...patters are switched the minute you
> > > >>>>        
> > > >>>>
> > > >press 
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>>>the button?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>also, patterns on it are arranged from a to p horizontally
across
> > > >>>>        
> > > >>>>
> > > >the 
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>>>bottom of the keyboard. on the MnM how do you switch
patterns? is
> > > >>>>        
> > > >>>>
> > > >it 
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>>>via the keyboard itself?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>cheers and thanks in advance
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