>>> I need >>> to use few milliseconds of delay to keep the MD in time with Logic. >>> Otherwhise, setting machinedrum as master and logic as slave, give >>> me the same timing problem. >> >> Do you mean that the MD stays in time but it's early (or late) ? > > MD it's late of few milliseconds, usually I put -8 milliseconds in > the delay panel. > That's common behaviour, don't worry about that; any other timing issues? Here are some good tips about logic and audio/midi latencies, you may find them useful. have a look at the record offset parameter in Logic. > > OK, for Logic: > > Start by measuring your record offset and and setting the record > delay driver parameter for source-monitored material. Follow the > instructions at http://www.opuslocus.com/logic/latency.html > > If you are software-monitoring through Logic (not via MOTU CueMix or > RME TotalMix or such), the record delay calculated as above will > likely result in recordings that playback too early relative to > prerecorded tracks. How early will vary, according to whether and how > well a real musician is compensating for the monitoring latency, or > whether it's just triggered midi module playback. On the whole, I > recommend you do NOT attempt to compensate for software-monitored > recordings using the record delay driver parameter. Leave it > calibrated for source-monitored recordings, and run your buffer sizes > as low as you can possibly go. Consider using source monitoring > whenever possible, or "zero-latency" hardware monitoring via TotalMix, > CueMix, etc. > > Sequence a midi click with the notes exactly on bars/beats. Output > that to your midi gear (set to a percussive sound with sharp attack), > and record the result to an audio track. Open the recording in the > Sample Editor, set to view in milliseconds. Measure the distance from > the bar/beat marks to the recorded clicks. Due to midi jitter, this > will not be consistent. Measure 20-30 clicks and average the result. > > Adjust the "All midi output: delay" setting in Preferences >> Midi >> > Sync (Logic 7) or the "delay all midi output" setting in Song Settings > >> Synchronization >> Midi (earlier versions) to compensate. Measure > and check again until it's recording more or less on the beat, on > average. This adjusts for source-monitored midi gear. > > Note that different midi gear may exhibit wildly differing delays. > It's your choice whether you compensate for the fastest, the slowest, > or an average. There's only one global setting available. For Logic 6 > and earlier, it's a song setting, so make sure you save it into your > autoload, and you'll need to make the setting individually for > existing songs. In Logic 7 it will affect all existing and new songs > automatically. > > You can attempt to further fine-tune for different delays among > different midi modules by using the Environment instrument "delay" > parameter, but be warned these are set in ticks, and the delay will > therefore change with the song tempo. You can view the delay in ms, > but the actual setting is always in tempo-dependent ticks. Change the > tempo with the Arrange "view: delay in ms" and see. > > Get this far, and see what you think of the result. Then, if you > really really want to attempt to compensate for software-monitored > recordings, post again. There are a number of ways to go about it, > none of which are ideal. I need to to think about it a bit more before > I write it up. > > John Pitcairn > >
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Re: [elektron] timing problems with MD, please help me!
2005-02-14 by Federico Ciapi
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