Elektron Musical Instruments

That poster most likely never even used a machinedrum.

--- synchro1 <synchro1@...> wrote:

> Why indeed?  Checked ebay, only 2 MDs have been
> listed since this post, neither appear to be from
> this person.  Looked for other reviews by same
> person - nada.  Reviewer name has no link to
> profile.  I registered at HC just for the hell of
> it, no listings by this user name in any of the
> forums I could find.
> 
> So the only authority or background we have on this
> critic is this single, unsourced, review.  So, we
> check spelling, grammar, construction, etc. to glean
> clues about the credibility of the poster. It reads
> very juvenile and clumsy.  Could be English as a
> second language, I suppose, except he seems to enjoy
> insulting Europeans and prices the product in US $..
> 
> All caps on the warning, excessive us of multiple
> !!!!!!!, They feel SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FLIMSY, LOL @
> european engineering, and so on.
> 
> Now compare it to every other review on the same
> page for the same product.  Remove this one from the
> score and see what the reliability index becomes.
> 
> I will not rely on HC user comments for much of
> anything factual.  It can be fun but it has become a
> pool of slime and tricks some of the time.  And
> competitors are suspected of spiking the deck on
> occasion.
> 
> Now my fallacious logic: an appeal to authority.  I
> have been involved in electronic music since 1969. 
> I own a ludicrous collection of gear; vintage and
> modern.  I worked as office manager for EMSA in the
> 1970s - importer of EMS gear in the US, sales of
> large modulars (mostly Moog) to Universities.  Did
> repairs.  I have a traceable on-line identity under
> this email name:
> 
> I own all 3 elektron products.  I believe each of
> them to be very well-built.  They are quirky.  I
> have one of the first MDs with the older knobs.  I
> prefer them, others don't.  The instrument is
> idiosyncratic but it is certainly reliable and
> well-built.  If that is the only concern keeping you
> from buying one, I would get it.  If you are not
> sure the sounds and uniqueness are for you, try to
> find someone near you that will let you try it out
> (I'm in the Bay Area of CA if that helps).  The
> minute you touch it you will dismiss the line,
> "CHEAPEST PIECE OF SHIT GEAR I HAVE EVER USED".
> 
> And as a smaqll company supporting a complex line of
> products, I have found Elektron to be responsive and
> responsible.  They may need a shrink (perhaps we all
> do), but not for feelings guilt.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kkonkkrete <kkonkkrete@...>
> Sent: Nov 15, 2005 11:42 AM
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MachineDrum prospective
> buyer: build quality ?
> 
> 
> So, for example the following quote from a review at
> harmony central (http://
>
www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/Elektron_ESI_AB/Machinedrum-1.html)
> is unfair?
> 
> Why would someone defame a well-built instrument
> this way?  The comparison to the 
> Korg is particularly harsh ;-)
> 
> :: kkonkkrete ::
> 
> 
> 
> <Start Quote>
> Reliability: N/A
> OK OK OK... READ UP FOR THIS SECTION!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> This is probably the CHEAPEST PIECE OF SHIT GEAR I
> HAVE EVER USED.
> 
> I seriously do not know why after reading hundreds
> of reviews how so many people have 
> overlooked the crap construction of this thing.
> 
> Yes it is metal and aluminum, but it is cheap.
> Seriously, LOL @ european engineering and 
> craftsmanship. That is so overrated it's not even
> funny. Most european gear now just suck. 
> Stick with japanese for build quality and
> reliability. I will tell you why:
> 
> They use crap paint for the parameter labels and
> they fall off over time. The screen is 
> easily scratched! Actually it gets scratched when
> you wipe the screen! That is how bad it is.
> 
> and the KNOBS... OH MY GOD! I can't believe people
> have not mentioned this. The knobs 
> are the worst I have EVER felt. Cheap plastic! They
> feel SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FLIMSY.. it's 
> really that bad. Seriously imagine the worst made in
> china and Elektron machinedrum 
> knobs are that. The worst finishing i have ever
> seen. The front plate is not finished.. so 
> you be careful you can slice up your hand it's so
> sharp. Seriously, LOL @ european 
> engineering. I really hope people read this and find
> out the truth about this thing.
> 
> seriously.. i'm surprised the folks over at
> machinedrum are not going ot the shrink out of 
> GUILT everyday for charging 1300 dollars for this
> crap construction. I mean if it was 300 
> bucks I can understand.. the Korg Er1 MK2 DESTROYS
> this thing for build quality.
> 
> Customer Support: N/A
> I heard it was good. I'm selling this thing right
> away on Ebay. Apparently they have resale 
> values. I'm very very surprised.
> 
> Overall Rating: N/A
> To be fair.. it has a good interface, good sounds..
> But nothing you can't do in software.
> 
> I would not replace this thing. I say get an ER1 or
> Rackattack.. a lot better and more 
> reliable. I am so disappointed with my purchase it's
> not even funny. Seriously you don't 
> understand the true meaning of CHEAP CONSTRUCTION
> until you have seen the 
> machinedrum.
> 
> I know some of you guys will have problems with me
> caring about build quality 
> excessively.. but the thing is I need to gig with
> this thing.. and this thing does not give the 
> air of reliability. It's metal but it's cheaply
> constructed. Hey man even the FORD PINTO is 
> made out of metal.. would you buy it?
> 
> My final analysis: GOOD FEATURES, GOOD INTERFACE,
> EXCELLENT SOUND, ATROCIOUS 
> BUILD QUALITY.. JUST ATROCIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> <End Quote>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, niall
> munnelly <aleph@a...> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 03:22:43PM -0000,
> kkonkkrete wrote:
> > > 
> > > Are these really issues?  
> > 
> > in my experience, no.  i've travelled a lot with
> the MD and
> > i play it constantly, and the buttons, encoders
> and finish
> > have held up perfectly.  you'd really have to
> smack this
> > thing around all the time to see any wear and tear
> - it's
> > built like the proverbial tank.
> > 
> > -- 
> > yours,
> > niall.
> > .. .  .   .    .     .       .           .        
>     .                 .
> > aleph null.                             a simple
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