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Re: [elektron] Re: Machinedrum bottom end lacking...

2006-05-10 by Patrik Rydberg

Well, yes, I konw they are 12bit, but that should just alter the 
amplitude of the samples, not the symmetry of the rise/fall of the 
waveform. A sine wave should still be a sine wave, although with a bit 
worse amplitude resolution I think...

I might as well mention that the reason not to keep them in cubase is 
live use...

It's not really a big problem, I just find it a bit strange...

/Patrik

Ville Gustafsson skrev:
> That's not strange at all, the machinedrum samples are converted to
> 12-bits and gritty-sounding on purpose. That's the whole point. If you
> want them hi-fi, keep them in Cubase.
> 
> Ville
> 
> On 5/10/06, Patrik Rydberg <rydan@...> wrote:
>  > Yes, well, what's annoying me isn't that my bass drum sounds bad in a
>  > mix. What's annoying me is that the same sample of a kick, played
>  > straight from cubase (with no effects of course) sounds different than
>  > if i send it to the machinedrum using the C6 utility, and then play it
>  > from there.
>  >
>  > Feel free to compare the two:
>  >
>  > www.cutpaste.org/temp/mdtest/Sample.wav
>  > www.cutpaste.org/temp/mdtest/MD.wav
>  >
>  > (also, if opened in a wave editor, you can clearly see the difference)
>  >
>  > This is a bit strange, I think...
>  >
>  > /Patrik
>  >
>  >
>  > tahvenaine2002 skrev:
>  > >  >From my experience, getting deeph oomphs is a matter of mixing sounds
>  > > together. It's easy to alone, but when you start to add different
>  > > sounds to it, overall impression loses it. The trick is to make stuff
>  > > dynamic, it got me year to understand this. So try to start with huge
>  > > headroom and then work your way through. If you want huge oommphh, you
>  > > cannot have huge everything else. It is the little sounds that make
>  > > another sounds big.
>  > >
>  > > Toni.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "rydan" <rydan@...> wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Hello there!
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I have been experimenting quite a bit with my UW, and I really 
> love it,
>  > >  > especially for creating weird percussive loops and strange sampling
>  > > effects
>  > >  > using the ram machines. However, I feel the kick drums are a bit
>  > > lacking. I
>  > >  > can't really put my finger on it, but they sound a bit thin I think.
>  > > They
>  > >  > may be loud and cutting through, but it seems hard to get that
>  > > extra, deep,
>  > >  > round oomph out of them.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > So, well, my other favourite for drum sounds is Attack, s\ufffd I 
> created a
>  > >  > really mean-sounding trance style kick, added some unmild
>  > > compression (UAD-1
>  > >  > rocks!), and exported to a wav file. Transfered it to the
>  > > machinedrum and
>  > >  > Tada!, eeeh oh, no, wait, the ooomph was gone again...
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Is it just me, or is anybody else experiencing this?
>  > >  >
>  > >  > /Patrik
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