Elektron Musical Instruments

I really don't what slop everyone keeps hearing, and acting like it's
the end of the world.  The MD has a little timing discrepancies, but
all my midi boxes do and it's not stopped me from making loads of
music with them.  If anything, i think the MD has the tightest timing
of all my gear.  I certainly can't hear the timing issues, and unless
I open up something I've recorded in my DAW and zoom WAY in, I'd never
see it either.

????

Oh well, good luck lobbying Elektron to 'fix' their timing.

On 4/14/07, sad1robot2003 <sad1robot@...> wrote:
> Last week i purchased a SPS1-uw and fell in love with it out of the box.Playing/
> programming it for hours on end ~by itself it has tons of character.  the timing
> randomness i could FEEL right off the bat. The night before buying it i spotted  the thread
> about the Timing fluctuations in the sound triggering dept. of the MDs internal
> sequencer.hmmm i thought, cant be that bad~ oh how wrong ~how high my hopes were ~
> I syncd it to my roland orchestra of midi clock/ Din syncd drummachines and i was sadly
> aware of the Timing issue.Here is where i notice it most: i have an 808 & 909 pattern
> running in tandem , all sounds( kicks , snares , claps, hats toms etc etc are going thru the
> separate out puts on the 808 & 909. arriving into individual input channels on a healthy
> soundcraft ghost 24 LE, i like have all the individual channels up & running with the sep
> sounds all Looping and the PLAYING the mute switches making parts with combinations of
> all machines on the fly. Of course im decribing something tons of electronic musicians
> have been doing forever, no secret stuff~ but heres when the SPS 1 timing slop is really
> apparent.  When you start isolating sounds  I.E.  an sps-1uw snare track played in tandem
> with the 808's kick and  the 909s  ride, that snare hits OFF about 75 % of the time.
> occasionally youll get a dead on hit and it sounds magical like  the rolands do 100% of the
> time.ive been a drummer for over 20 years. my drum teacher used to have me practice to
> a metronome and my mission was to play rudiments and nail the metronome track spot
> on. when this happens , stick and click hitting at the same time theres a crack of accuracy
> that is magic. flams are flams, and thats the best way to describe what the SPS 1 is doing
> most of the time! Flaming! and have been collecting drum machines for the past 10. my
> collection is vast( tr 505,606, 808, 909, dr-110, cr-8000, cr-78, sp-12 turbo, sp-1200,
> mpc60,II, Mpc 3000 korg micro pops, kpr-77 simmons sds- 9, sds 1000, so of course
> goes w/out saying ive been looking forward to owning the machinedrum for some time
> now. On its own its fantastic ~ fluctuating and all, but when played alongside the other
> classic drummachines, i just want to mute it.  sad cause i love  the sounds out of it. Ive
> been following the thread close and just dont get how some people overlook the fact that
> this is a problem that needs to be solved. to pay good money for a unique modern
> machine is worth it for the sheer power of customization and control~ YET  its insane that
> one of the most important features of a drum machine is its ability to play its own internal
> sounds Precisely with accurate precision, and all the power to people that are measuring it
> against MPC 60s or 3000's than by all means  make those standards by which  the SPS 1
> should perform up to.  recording the SPS 1 into protools i can see and measure the
> fluctuations  and its a shame. My sidstations env's are sloppy . That was a BUG in the SID
> chip itself. Elektron  made up for it  by adding a great feature in the USER setting to have
> the choice to bypass the Buggy env's  and switch it into GATE mode making arpeggios
> Super tight when played with an external seq. I hope the Elektron Guys have perked up
> their ears ~ the thread is still going on over at the Elektron group page Special thanks to
> SN interclock for steering it back to the  real issue at hand~ Accurate timing. Perhaps im a
> rare bird syncing up a bunch of old drum machines and using cv/gates to trigger toms
> made on an arp 2600, or snares on a mini moog~ but i like the sounds on the SPS 1 too!
> but they are getting muted on the desk  when played next to the other machines. i hope
> elektron solves the problem in the near future. i think if enough users get the point of
> what the timing complaints are really about~ theyll speak up. By all means make that
> flammy timing an OPTION on the Global page , But give me Solid timing FIRST!
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