Elektron Musical Instruments

I seen a picture of your setup over at ableton.com,
with all due respect - the reason you're not seeing the slop other
people can is down to the amount of groovebox/step sequencers you're
trying to sync. 

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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Tarekith <Tarekith@...> wrote:
>
> I really don't what slop everyone keeps hearing, and acting like it's
> the end of the world.  The MD has a little timing discrepancies, but
> all my midi boxes do and it's not stopped me from making loads of
> music with them.  If anything, i think the MD has the tightest timing
> of all my gear.  I certainly can't hear the timing issues, and unless
> I open up something I've recorded in my DAW and zoom WAY in, I'd never
> see it either.
> 
> ????
> 
> Oh well, good luck lobbying Elektron to 'fix' their timing.
> 
> On 4/14/07, sad1robot2003 <sad1robot@...> wrote:
> > Last week i purchased a SPS1-uw and fell in love with it out of
the box.Playing/
> > programming it for hours on end ~by itself it has tons of
character.  the timing
> > randomness i could FEEL right off the bat. The night before buying
it i spotted  the thread
> > about the Timing fluctuations in the sound triggering dept. of the
MDs internal
> > sequencer.hmmm i thought, cant be that bad~ oh how wrong ~how high
my hopes were ~
> > I syncd it to my roland orchestra of midi clock/ Din syncd
drummachines and i was sadly
> > aware of the Timing issue.Here is where i notice it most: i have
an 808 & 909 pattern
> > running in tandem , all sounds( kicks , snares , claps, hats toms
etc etc are going thru the
> > separate out puts on the 808 & 909. arriving into individual input
channels on a healthy
> > soundcraft ghost 24 LE, i like have all the individual channels up
& running with the sep
> > sounds all Looping and the PLAYING the mute switches making parts
with combinations of
> > all machines on the fly. Of course im decribing something tons of
electronic musicians
> > have been doing forever, no secret stuff~ but heres when the SPS 1
timing slop is really
> > apparent.  When you start isolating sounds  I.E.  an sps-1uw snare
track played in tandem
> > with the 808's kick and  the 909s  ride, that snare hits OFF about
75 % of the time.
> > occasionally youll get a dead on hit and it sounds magical like 
the rolands do 100% of the
> > time.ive been a drummer for over 20 years. my drum teacher used to
have me practice to
> > a metronome and my mission was to play rudiments and nail the
metronome track spot
> > on. when this happens , stick and click hitting at the same time
theres a crack of accuracy
> > that is magic. flams are flams, and thats the best way to describe
what the SPS 1 is doing
> > most of the time! Flaming! and have been collecting drum machines
for the past 10. my
> > collection is vast( tr 505,606, 808, 909, dr-110, cr-8000, cr-78,
sp-12 turbo, sp-1200,
> > mpc60,II, Mpc 3000 korg micro pops, kpr-77 simmons sds- 9, sds
1000, so of course
> > goes w/out saying ive been looking forward to owning the
machinedrum for some time
> > now. On its own its fantastic ~ fluctuating and all, but when
played alongside the other
> > classic drummachines, i just want to mute it.  sad cause i love 
the sounds out of it. Ive
> > been following the thread close and just dont get how some people
overlook the fact that
> > this is a problem that needs to be solved. to pay good money for a
unique modern
> > machine is worth it for the sheer power of customization and
control~ YET  its insane that
> > one of the most important features of a drum machine is its
ability to play its own internal
> > sounds Precisely with accurate precision, and all the power to
people that are measuring it
> > against MPC 60s or 3000's than by all means  make those standards
by which  the SPS 1
> > should perform up to.  recording the SPS 1 into protools i can see
and measure the
> > fluctuations  and its a shame. My sidstations env's are sloppy .
That was a BUG in the SID
> > chip itself. Elektron  made up for it  by adding a great feature
in the USER setting to have
> > the choice to bypass the Buggy env's  and switch it into GATE mode
making arpeggios
> > Super tight when played with an external seq. I hope the Elektron
Guys have perked up
> > their ears ~ the thread is still going on over at the Elektron
group page Special thanks to
> > SN interclock for steering it back to the  real issue at hand~
Accurate timing. Perhaps im a
> > rare bird syncing up a bunch of old drum machines and using
cv/gates to trigger toms
> > made on an arp 2600, or snares on a mini moog~ but i like the
sounds on the SPS 1 too!
> > but they are getting muted on the desk  when played next to the
other machines. i hope
> > elektron solves the problem in the near future. i think if enough
users get the point of
> > what the timing complaints are really about~ theyll speak up. By
all means make that
> > flammy timing an OPTION on the Global page , But give me Solid
timing FIRST!
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