Elektron Musical Instruments

I'm not sure I undestand your point, the only 'groovebox' I use is the
MD.  The ER-1 is the only other unit I own with a sequencer, and it's
not even midi up to my computer or the MD.  Haven't touched it since I
got the MD.

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On 4/14/07, j3l1yt0t5 <j3l1yt0t5@...> wrote:
> I seen a picture of your setup over at ableton.com,
> with all due respect - the reason you're not seeing the slop other
> people can is down to the amount of groovebox/step sequencers you're
> trying to sync.
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> http://tarekith.com/images/TarekithStudio01.jpg
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> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Tarekith <Tarekith@...> wrote:
> >
> > I really don't what slop everyone keeps hearing, and acting like it's
> > the end of the world.  The MD has a little timing discrepancies, but
> > all my midi boxes do and it's not stopped me from making loads of
> > music with them.  If anything, i think the MD has the tightest timing
> > of all my gear.  I certainly can't hear the timing issues, and unless
> > I open up something I've recorded in my DAW and zoom WAY in, I'd never
> > see it either.
> >
> > ????
> >
> > Oh well, good luck lobbying Elektron to 'fix' their timing.
> >
> > On 4/14/07, sad1robot2003 <sad1robot@...> wrote:
> > > Last week i purchased a SPS1-uw and fell in love with it out of
> the box.Playing/
> > > programming it for hours on end ~by itself it has tons of
> character.  the timing
> > > randomness i could FEEL right off the bat. The night before buying
> it i spotted  the thread
> > > about the Timing fluctuations in the sound triggering dept. of the
> MDs internal
> > > sequencer.hmmm i thought, cant be that bad~ oh how wrong ~how high
> my hopes were ~
> > > I syncd it to my roland orchestra of midi clock/ Din syncd
> drummachines and i was sadly
> > > aware of the Timing issue.Here is where i notice it most: i have
> an 808 & 909 pattern
> > > running in tandem , all sounds( kicks , snares , claps, hats toms
> etc etc are going thru the
> > > separate out puts on the 808 & 909. arriving into individual input
> channels on a healthy
> > > soundcraft ghost 24 LE, i like have all the individual channels up
> & running with the sep
> > > sounds all Looping and the PLAYING the mute switches making parts
> with combinations of
> > > all machines on the fly. Of course im decribing something tons of
> electronic musicians
> > > have been doing forever, no secret stuff~ but heres when the SPS 1
> timing slop is really
> > > apparent.  When you start isolating sounds  I.E.  an sps-1uw snare
> track played in tandem
> > > with the 808's kick and  the 909s  ride, that snare hits OFF about
> 75 % of the time.
> > > occasionally youll get a dead on hit and it sounds magical like
> the rolands do 100% of the
> > > time.ive been a drummer for over 20 years. my drum teacher used to
> have me practice to
> > > a metronome and my mission was to play rudiments and nail the
> metronome track spot
> > > on. when this happens , stick and click hitting at the same time
> theres a crack of accuracy
> > > that is magic. flams are flams, and thats the best way to describe
> what the SPS 1 is doing
> > > most of the time! Flaming! and have been collecting drum machines
> for the past 10. my
> > > collection is vast( tr 505,606, 808, 909, dr-110, cr-8000, cr-78,
> sp-12 turbo, sp-1200,
> > > mpc60,II, Mpc 3000 korg micro pops, kpr-77 simmons sds- 9, sds
> 1000, so of course
> > > goes w/out saying ive been looking forward to owning the
> machinedrum for some time
> > > now. On its own its fantastic ~ fluctuating and all, but when
> played alongside the other
> > > classic drummachines, i just want to mute it.  sad cause i love
> the sounds out of it. Ive
> > > been following the thread close and just dont get how some people
> overlook the fact that
> > > this is a problem that needs to be solved. to pay good money for a
> unique modern
> > > machine is worth it for the sheer power of customization and
> control~ YET  its insane that
> > > one of the most important features of a drum machine is its
> ability to play its own internal
> > > sounds Precisely with accurate precision, and all the power to
> people that are measuring it
> > > against MPC 60s or 3000's than by all means  make those standards
> by which  the SPS 1
> > > should perform up to.  recording the SPS 1 into protools i can see
> and measure the
> > > fluctuations  and its a shame. My sidstations env's are sloppy .
> That was a BUG in the SID
> > > chip itself. Elektron  made up for it  by adding a great feature
> in the USER setting to have
> > > the choice to bypass the Buggy env's  and switch it into GATE mode
> making arpeggios
> > > Super tight when played with an external seq. I hope the Elektron
> Guys have perked up
> > > their ears ~ the thread is still going on over at the Elektron
> group page Special thanks to
> > > SN interclock for steering it back to the  real issue at hand~
> Accurate timing. Perhaps im a
> > > rare bird syncing up a bunch of old drum machines and using
> cv/gates to trigger toms
> > > made on an arp 2600, or snares on a mini moog~ but i like the
> sounds on the SPS 1 too!
> > > but they are getting muted on the desk  when played next to the
> other machines. i hope
> > > elektron solves the problem in the near future. i think if enough
> users get the point of
> > > what the timing complaints are really about~ theyll speak up. By
> all means make that
> > > flammy timing an OPTION on the Global page , But give me Solid
> timing FIRST!
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