Elektron Musical Instruments

Leo Cavallo wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel
>
> Thanks for your clarification regarding the timing "issue".
>
> Are you saying that the timing variations we experience in the MD
> playback are 100% deliberate?
>
> You make it sound like it's a real feature...
>
> If that were the case, why don't you guys give us the option to
> switch off that timing model?
>
> I'm sure many other users would agree on this.
>
> Best Regards
> Leo
>
> >
> >
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> >advice Monomachine and Machine Drum or Spectralis
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> >Posted by: "daniel_elektron" <mailto:daniel@... 
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> <http://profiles.yahoo.com/daniel_elektron>> daniel_elektron
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> >Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:44 am (PST)
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> <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>,
> ehdyn81@... wrote:
>
> > As for the user wave elektron, what ever became of the internal timing
> > issue? Some people on the forums were complaining of noticeable clock
> > jitter. Hard to believe as A.E. have really precise timing. But then
> > again,
>
> I've always claimed that the Machinedrum is dead tight if you run it
> on its internal sequencer, and I don't want to back of.
>
> People have measured sample delays on individual hits, which is not
> what I meant. There are some "magic" put into the timing of the
> Elektron instruments, can't disclose all, but I suggested in the
> thread to do a listening test and see what feels tighter.
>
> Not always your ear want to hear the most dead spot on note, the ear
> is more complex than that. Many of the legendary beat boxes have a
> special grove to it, and I think that people would feel a hard-to-tell
> lack of something if we made everything sample tight.
>
> When we designed our own magic we went through all legendary drum
> machines , especially the MPC-60 to get an idea of the "magic swing".
> It's not a swing per as, but some notes we noticed where perceived as
> more catchy if put a few samples forward or, most often before in
> time. That's what people have been measuring. I don't want to go in
> detail as we put a lot of effort into this other that to say - do
> listening tests. Try a sample tight (computer sequencer) and take some
> of your favorite beat boxes and see which result you prefer real life.
>
> It was a big thread and I just had time for one post to state our view
> on this, so it can easily get lost.
>
> If you want rigidity, computer is the way to go, but we want to do
> something more.
>
> Note also that there is no delay between patterns, so the tempo is
> kept dead tight over time. As a matter of fact we've had it run
> alongside Protool for hours with any delays.
>
> What you prefer is always individual, but there are reasons behind the
> small, _almost_ unnoticeable timing of the different notes in the
> 16:th and 32 note realm.
>
> Note that the MIDI clock out is always exact on the spot and when
> running the internal sequencer (as well as standard MIDI can do it),
> and that the internal "magic" (that's our view of it at least, I
> respect others that prefer exact sample accuracy) is only applied when
> you run on internal clock on the internal sequencer and is/can not be
> applied to incoming MIDI triggering data.
>
> Daniel, Elektron
>
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