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parameters reset? [newbie alert!]

2007-05-02 by Luke Sanger

Bankrupted myself buying an M.D last week and have to say I'm  
impressed with the soundto say the least.
After making some patterns etc I've tried to put together a 'song'
I set up all the reverb, lfo, delay settings on the patterns.
After saving the song and returning to it, all my effect settings  
etc. seem to reset?
I'm sure there's a simple explanation?!

cheers and hello!

Luke
On 2 May 2007, at 10:41, innerclock2004 wrote:

> Thanks for the response Daniel - it's a very tough issue and you have
> made your point clear enough although I disagree on a number of
> fundamental points though all the same and because I initiated the
> timing thread I felt it only fair that I respond after so much
> healthy and, at times, heated debate.
>
> I don't think there is any 'magic' beat box feel - vintage or
> contemporary. What gives any rhythmic pattern 'feel' is how we
> anticipate where sounds fall in time and because every individual
> hears subjectively it makes practical analysis and criticism of
> timing performance in sequencers very difficult. This I well
> understand.
>
> What I do feel strongly is that adding any random element to
> step/event placement in any sequencing device does not create feel.
> All it serves to do is blur the edges of the groove.
>
> The exact opposite applies when deliberate Push/Pull placement of
> steps/events against a strict quantised tempo grid is used to
> customise feel - pushed hats, late snares and of course shuffle/swing.
>
> You use rigidity as a way of describing the interest many musicians
> have in tighter event timing and suggest using computers for such
> tasks. The term rigidity has negative connotations for most musicians
> but I must stress again that a desire for precision and consistency
> in sequencing is not about rigidity or stiffness at all. Quite the
> reverse in fact.
>
> Feel is all about rhythmic anticipation � and that very human
> anticipation demands that if a snare is deliberately placed 5 ticks
> late it must always sound 5 ticks late to faithfully maintain the
> groove. The potential feel in any rhythm becomes less focused when
> the snares fall 3 ticks late sometimes and 7 ticks late other times
> in a pattern or loop when the timing variation is of a random nature.
>
> This is not human feel. It is not feel in any sense because the
> timing variation is random � this is simply software and hardware not
> keeping time.
>
> Remember that my initial tests were not analytical to begin with � I
> could hear things shifting around which made me look closer. This was
> something I could hear.
>
> If you had implemented a secret 'groove template' in the SPS-1 I
> could appreciate that to a point although I would have liked an
> option to switch it off. What leaves me unconvinced is the random
> nature of the push/pull. If it was a deliberate process to add
> a 'feel template' - wouldn't the step push/pull variation be
> consistent across a complete pattern?
>
> I guess I am a little disappointed as I love what the MD can do and
> had hoped the timing could be straightened out a little.
>
> At the end of the day � it's a very beautiful machine and makes
> beautiful music. That was never in any doubt. I just asked the
> question to see if it could be tightened up a little.
>
> Regards and deep respect as always,
>
> David.
>
>
> 



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