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Re: [elektron] parameters reset? [newbie alert!]

2007-05-02 by verstaerker

the settings must be saved with the kit!

> Bankrupted myself buying an M.D last week and have to say I'm  
> impressed with the soundto say the least.
> After making some patterns etc I've tried to put together a 'song'
> I set up all the reverb, lfo, delay settings on the patterns.
> After saving the song and returning to it, all my effect settings  
> etc. seem to reset?
> I'm sure there's a simple explanation?!

> cheers and hello!

> Luke
> On 2 May 2007, at 10:41, innerclock2004 wrote:

>> Thanks for the response Daniel - it's a very tough issue and you have
>> made your point clear enough although I disagree on a number of
>> fundamental points though all the same and because I initiated the
>> timing thread I felt it only fair that I respond after so much
>> healthy and, at times, heated debate.
>>
>> I don't think there is any 'magic' beat box feel - vintage or
>> contemporary. What gives any rhythmic pattern 'feel' is how we
>> anticipate where sounds fall in time and because every individual
>> hears subjectively it makes practical analysis and criticism of
>> timing performance in sequencers very difficult. This I well
>> understand.
>>
>> What I do feel strongly is that adding any random element to
>> step/event placement in any sequencing device does not create feel.
>> All it serves to do is blur the edges of the groove.
>>
>> The exact opposite applies when deliberate Push/Pull placement of
>> steps/events against a strict quantised tempo grid is used to
>> customise feel - pushed hats, late snares and of course shuffle/swing.
>>
>> You use rigidity as a way of describing the interest many musicians
>> have in tighter event timing and suggest using computers for such
>> tasks. The term rigidity has negative connotations for most musicians
>> but I must stress again that a desire for precision and consistency
>> in sequencing is not about rigidity or stiffness at all. Quite the
>> reverse in fact.
>>
>> Feel is all about rhythmic anticipation – and that very human
>> anticipation demands that if a snare is deliberately placed 5 ticks
>> late it must always sound 5 ticks late to faithfully maintain the
>> groove. The potential feel in any rhythm becomes less focused when
>> the snares fall 3 ticks late sometimes and 7 ticks late other times
>> in a pattern or loop when the timing variation is of a random nature.
>>
>> This is not human feel. It is not feel in any sense because the
>> timing variation is random – this is simply software and hardware not
>> keeping time.
>>
>> Remember that my initial tests were not analytical to begin with – I
>> could hear things shifting around which made me look closer. This was
>> something I could hear.
>>
>> If you had implemented a secret 'groove template' in the SPS-1 I
>> could appreciate that to a point although I would have liked an
>> option to switch it off. What leaves me unconvinced is the random
>> nature of the push/pull. If it was a deliberate process to add
>> a 'feel template' - wouldn't the step push/pull variation be
>> consistent across a complete pattern?
>>
>> I guess I am a little disappointed as I love what the MD can do and
>> had hoped the timing could be straightened out a little.
>>
>> At the end of the day – it's a very beautiful machine and makes
>> beautiful music. That was never in any doubt. I just asked the
>> question to see if it could be tightened up a little.
>>
>> Regards and deep respect as always,
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
>> 



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