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Re: [elektron] MD noise

2002-02-05 by mizatch

Hi everyone,
I was the one who put the noise question for the first time 2 weeks ago, and
here are some thoughts:

>- The alternative outs are not usable for 2 reasons: 1- The noise floor when
using 6 >outs is RIDICULOUS (louder than my TB 303!) 2- If you use any out
separably (A or B or >C ....) there is a decay noise (try hard panning a
kick drum on st out to L and solo R on >your mixer...) which really
interfers with any decent sound design you may want to do.

It is really bad,  I don't think a lot of people on this list have been
tracking multiple outs, or recording multiple single sounds and listening
back carefully Run a oscilloscope on MD with no sounds on,  it is about 40db
S/N.  There is a very low noisefloor on this machine, and elektron will tell
you that themselves.  Anal engineers will hate this machine for that.  As
for me, with the amazing midi outlay, you can work around and do all yr
editing in yr seqeuncer and track it in a stereo file and it's fine.  I wish
it had more s/n, but it doesn't, and that's not changeable, not a big deal
at all to me, but to some..........

>- Apart from that there are strange noises coming from inside the MD caused by
the >efx card and/or LFO.

this is a bad problem that has not even been acknowledged by elektron yet


>- The MD has (at least with the beta 1.09v) midi issues: Difficult to sync with
soft >seq. with the MD as Master.

1.1 seems to be better, but it still has permanently altered (ruined) some
of my kits when messing around with MIDI/sysex.  there are some obscure
random bugs in midimachines and sysex

>I have adressed Elektron with these issues and I was amased that they did not
noticed >before. At this point they are still trying to find out what it is.

they are definitely not telling the whole story then, because i have brought
up these questions with them several times....i have also been told 'no one
else has complained'  This seems out of character for them, as their the
support has been amazing.

They could not guaranty that they were software related (therefore reparable
with a OS update) and they told me that it may well be structural hardware
problem. 
In my opinion they rushed on releasing the MD and saying that it was "the
best drum machine ever..." instead of adressing this problems and making it
perfect. Than people would say that the MD is the best. I was quite
disapointed with Elektron regarding this!

After considering all this I was seriously thinking about returning my MD
(money back). BUT I DID´NT!
During this last week I worked on a song with the MD using just the main st
out, all the master efx levels at 0 and using the MD as a sound module
(logic as sequencer), and I the result surprised me. It sounds really good
and you can easily get were you want, even to further new places. Imagine
fruit loops flexibility with all sorts off amazing and powerfull sound
possibilities!  So I´m still with the MD.


there are a lot of things wrong with it that frustrate me, but it is still
the best piece of hardware out there.......I have faith in them, but am not
impressed they are saying to you no one has brought this up when i have sent
them audio files in december clearly documenting the panning/ alt out
problems, why lie?

jason








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