Elektron Musical Instruments

Le 04 déc. 2003, à 17:27, Col Dee a écrit :

> To be honest I do find it a bit annoying that people so rarely talk
> about the SidStation. It is a "dead product" only in that it is not
> being sold "first-hand" anymore. I only got mine a few months ago,
> bought second-hand, and I'm very new to its sound and operation, and
> I'm thrilled by it.

I'm sure you'll hear form the SID user. They sure CAN talk :)
I've seen it.

> Alas, I can hardly share that joy because all anyone ever talks about
> here is the Monomachine. And up until about two months ago, all
> anyone ever spoke about was the Machinedrum.

On mailing list it's the novelty effect, as a lot of memebers are 
Elektron addicts the die hards with SID, MD and MnM are all on the MnM 
as it's the next big thing. It'll go more equally distributed after the 
beta and the release.

You don't really know the deepness of GAS inflicted people (Gear 
Addiction Syndrom)

> We only ever seem to hear about the SidStation when somebody's SID
> chip has burned out and needs replacing. And I don't know about
> anyone else but I'm bored hearing nothing but technical reports of
> how the MD works. Nobody ever talks about "that magic MD sound"
> or "the thrill of working with it" or anything personal or creative.

If you wait til other talk about something that interest you, you may 
end up waiting a long time. :)
Remember the list is around for some time now and as I'm only on it 
from the beginning of this year, I know I've lost a lot of interesting 
talks.

But if I have a question or have metaphysical need to be verbose about 
the beauty of the MD, I help myself and tell the list.

Just DO it ;)

> It seems as if the only people buying Elektron gear are oddball
> technicians who want to crack the synthesis architecture before
> anyone else and aren't interested in actually making music or
> discussing the possibilities of the MnM's sound and putting up mp3s
> of their work.

1- GAS
2- not every one feels the same upon talking about the actual music 
they do. Myself I'm very secretive, because I'm very shy (even if it 
doesn't show up easily)
3- Synth freaks are technical freaks. And this list is rather cool on 
that, it could be much worse :)

> Of course there is no obligation to read posts about the MD and MnM,
> but then there's hardly any obligation to come to this group at all
> since about 99% of the threads concern those two instruments, and on
> a cold technical level at that.

If you want to talk about the SID, why don't you do it?
I won't as I'm not fond of it, but I will find perfectly normal people 
talk about it :)

> For all that, I'm not sure about replacing the group with dedicated
> SID, MnM and MD lists. I think it could only be done effectively with
> an actual FORUM at elektron.se. Otherwise it'd just be three
> miscellaneous groups scattered around Yahoo and I don't think the
> users of the various machines would talk much to each other.

As I said previously to separate at least MD and MnM users would be 
stupid, as both machine have a lot in common.
And a group with not a lot activity for SID would be a bore, if not 
dead. Remember Elektorn users are a very small % of people buying gear, 
better to keep hot together. especially in near winter as we are ;)

> I don't understand why Elektron haven't set up their own forum built
> into their website.

Because PHP forums are rather new (well…) and it means more work for 
them as it won't be a small forum. You have to check every day, 
moderate if need be etc. Also you need to think of the use. Until much 
more advanced features are needed, the form and possibilities of the 
yahoo group is enough. The only talk there has been was on the eventual 
move to a less prone to spam system. That's all.

Denis H]                                 lepetitmartien
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