Elektron Musical Instruments

i've gotten clicks before when chaining two patterns together, right when 
the patterns change, there is a tiny click.  i'll have to try the examples 
you wrote about though.

steve





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>Has anybody noticed inaccuracies in their MD?  First of all, let me
>make it clear that I am not writing this message to complain.  I
>just want to point out some things I've noticed after owning an MD
>for over a year now.
>
>First of all, filter clicking.  I've created patterns on several
>occasions which cause audible, random clicks in the filter.  For
>example, yesterday I created a hihat track which simply trigs the HH
>on every 8th note.  I locked the filter cutoff to 93 on the 1st
>trig, and zero on all other trigs.  When I hit PLAY and leave the MD
>looping it will often make clicking/popping sounds when it trigs the
>2nd hihat note.  This is because the filter cutoff is jumping down
>from 93 to 0 in one 8th note step and it appears the MD cannot
>always make the adjustment in time.  Sometimes it trigs perfectly,
>but sometimes it misses it, hence a clicking sound (which clicks to
>varying degrees as well, sometimes very loud, sometimes soft).  I've
>read that the MD uses MIDI internally.  I'm curious if it's mis-
>trigging because the MIDI messages are too slow (I don't trust MIDI
>myself), or somewhere else in the MD's brains (maybe the DSP)?
>Clearly something is a little slow in there.
>
>In the example I just gave you, I was able to eliminate the
>clicking.  By locking the 2nd trig's cutoff to 45 (instead of zero),
>the clicking disappeared entirely.  As you can see, what I did was
>give the MD some time to step from 93 to zero (over the space of 3
>trigs instead of just 2).
>
>CLICKING
>Trig:    1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
>Cutoff:  93  0   0   0   0   0   0   0
>
>CLICKING ELIMINATED
>Trig:    1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
>Cutoff:  93  45  0   0   0   0   0   0
>
>
>Another inaccuracy in the MD occurs in the LFO's at high speeds.
>Here's an example using just 2 tracks.  I set up the CH track to
>trig on all notes (16ths), with no locks.  Then, I set up one (and
>only one) trig on the very first note of the OH track.  I set up the
>LFO on the OH track to modulate the VOLUME of the CH track.  I use a
>50/50 mix between a triangle and square LFO shape.  I set the LFO
>to "TRIG" mode, and set the depth to 127.  Now I press PLAY and set
>the pattern looping, and set the LFO speed to something slow (maybe
>9).  Now just listen to that loop, what you get is some nice
>modulation of the hihat's volume.  Because I've set the LFO
>to "TRIG", and placed one trig at the start of the OH track, the
>modulation resets at the beginning of each bar.  This is a nice
>trick.  Try tweaking the LFO speed a little (still slowish) and you
>get different variations in your hihat rhythm.  The nice thing is
>that the modulation is not random like when the LFO is set
>to "FREE".  The modulation resets every bar, so you get predictable
>results.  Every time the pattern loops it sounds exactly the same,
>as it should.  However, here's where the MD goes wrong:  Try pushing
>the LFO speed up to 127.  You'll notice that with each loop some
>variations start to creep in.  At the low speeds every loop was
>identical, but at high speeds the MD can't keep up (with whatever
>calculations its making), and so each loop starts sounding audibly
>different.  If you turn the LFO speed down, you should be able to
>find the speed at which the MD starts to return to normal, with
>every bar sounding identical.
>
>You should try these examples out on your own MD's.  They clearly
>demonstrate some of the MD's imperfections, and they are readily
>reproduceable errors.  Who knows where the errors come from?  Is it
>because the MD uses MIDI internally and the MIDI messages are not
>transmitting/receiving in time?  Is it because the DSP's in the MD
>are too slow to make high speed/complex calculations?  Is it the
>programming?
>
>Like I said, I'm not complaining.  I love my MD.  I just want to
>throw this out for some discussion and to see if other people have
>similar examples.  Who knows, maybe these sorts of issues can be
>solved in future OS revisions?  It would be great if they could.
>
>Fixing the track clear undo (which was implemented in the last OS
>revision but never worked) would be a nice start though :)
>
>Cheers.
>

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