FEATURE REQUEST NO. 30 (new)
30. RANDOMIZE FEATURES
a key combination press in conjunction with a screen area that would randomize either a whole pattern and all its parts, or just a subset of parts, i.e. just hi hat and something else--not necessarily just note, but perhaps any parameter that is available to the lfos). The user chooses what is to be randomized and there is say up to 8 things that can be chosen to be randomized at the same time. There could be a randomize window where the user can choose what elements (could even be things other than just note position) will get shuffled upon the execution of the randomize feature. In this way, one could set a nice base pattern, save it to another slot, then go into the randomize screen area, set the elements to be randomized, say hi-hat and snare delay and snare delay time for example and then repeatedly hit randomize until something really cool jumps out, then tweak and save and repeat, perhaps changing the elements to be randomized again. This could help one find and build whole new patterns and ideas that might not have been apparent at first.
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From: tahvenaine2002
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:40 AM
Subject: [elektron] [MD FEATURE REQUEST AND BUGS LIST V6]
Everyone please read this list, I'm going to send this to Elektron at
monday. If something is to be changed post number of it and change of
a matter. Gotta stop now (going to see Kraftwerk tonight!).
Toni.
[BUGS]
1. SONG-SLOT REMEMBERED WRONG
after a fresh restart of the MD, enter song mode then try to save the
song; regardless of which slot the song was originally saved to, the
MD will try to save it to the first slot; which pisses me off
enormously because I've lost at least a few songs when I wasn't
watching carefully enough (and didn't expect the bug)
2. THE FAMOUS MUTE-BUG IN SONG MODE
In song mode, if the scale setup LED is lit for the second portion of
the pattern, then song mutes can't be changed; changing it to the
first portion of the pattern fixes the
problem (though clearly this isn't right)
3. LFO SPEED INACCURACY
Another inaccuracy in the MD occurs in the LFO's at high speeds.
Here's an example using just 2 tracks. I set up the CH track to trig
on all notes (16ths), with no locks. Then, I set up one (and only
one) trig on the very first note of the OH track. I set up the LFO on
the OH track to modulate the VOLUME of the CH track. I use a 50/50
mix between a triangle and square LFO shape. I set the LFO to "TRIG"
mode, and set the depth to 127. Now I press PLAY and set the pattern
looping, and set the LFO speed to something slow (maybe9). Now just
listen to that loop, what you get is some nice modulation of the
hihat's volume. Because I've set the LFO to "TRIG", and placed one
trig at the start of the OH track, the modulation resets at the
beginning of each bar. This is a nice trick. Try tweaking the LFO
speed a little (still slowish) and you get different variations in
your hihat rhythm. The nice thing is that the modulation is not
random like when the LFO is set to "FREE". The modulation resets
every bar, so you get predictable results. Every time the pattern
loops it sounds exactly the same, as it should. However, here's where
the MD goes wrong: Try pushing the LFO speed up to 127. You'll notice
that with each loop some variations start to creep in. At the low
speeds every loop was identical, but at high speeds the MD can't keep
up (with whatever calculations its making), and so each loop starts
sounding audibly different. If you turn the LFO speed down, you
should be able to find the speed at which the MD starts to return to
normal, with every bar sounding identical.
4. TRACK CLEAR UNDO DOESN'T WORK
Fixing the track clear undo (which was implemented in the last OS
revision but never worked) would be a nice start though :)
5. PARAMETER LOCK ERROR WITH LINKED MACHINES
Take one machine and link it to e12-machine (this is easiest to
hear). Now sequence the machine and e12 triggers nicely. Fine. Now go
to track with e-12 machine and put one parameterlock there with long
retrigs. Now play the original pattern and you should notice that the
e-12 machine stays on parameterlock after the seq has run over
parameterlock and it won't change to normal. This makes it impossible
to do velocity sensitive snareing with linkable snares, because when
you do parameter lock on original machine the second machine has too
much volume, ok you go to second machine track and fix it with
parameter lock and then the volumes stays there and the next snare
sounds wrong.
6. MONOMACHINE AND MACHINEDRUM MIDI LATENCY
I've been building my homestudio and been trying to setup everything
to answer my musicmaking techniques. Ive setup the elektron gear this
way: Cubase SX sends midiclock to both units via RME hammerfall
midiport. With the midiclock it also sends transport commands (Start,
stop, continue). Then I I've setup Monomachine and Machinedrum so
that they receive transport commands, but do not use midiclock. This
way because I want solid bpm timing and I'm using songmode (chopping
patterns) a lot. So now I have dreamsetup where I can for example put
cubase to loop 8 measures and when I hit play from cubase, all
machines start ticking in sync and I can start sequnecing both MM and
MD. Well I almost have it and here comes the problem: I've noticed
and measured that Monomachine reacts to miditransport- command (play)
in about few ms (4.5 exatcly on my rme midiport). But in the
Machinedrum it takes about 25 ms!! So you can see it's reacting to
play command pretty slowly, which makes hard to do groovy hihats
(exepts if you want a really groovyones :) Is this something that
have been overlooked possibly or somekind of bug or just the way it
is and which can't be changed?? This is not a audiocard latency since
I've tried it with 1.5 ms latency from rme card and I can get tight
timing with Monomachine.
7. MACHINEDRUM TEMPO DRIFTING!!
Machinedrum tempo seems to drift sometimes. It can be reproduced very
easily. Make up quite long song with different kits and patterns (you
can also set some offset's and mutes but maybe it doesn't matter).
Now if you want to record every single sound to it's own channel
throught MD Dynamix you need to mute other tracks than BD (for
example) and play song from start to end with computer (or something
else) recording it. Do record the BD two times with different tracks.
After something like 60 bars you start to see drifting of kick sounds
(and this happens when MD is Master!!). I've gotten over 30 ms
differencies at the end of files. I know it can't be perfect, but
this is just too much. Try recording snare and the hihats and you
will see (and hear!!) how they drift at the end of files!. Should be
corrected, if possible!
8. LOCK UP AFTER NOTE PASTE
During note copy and paste I often get a lockup of certain parts.
Several parameters are highlighted on the pasted note and some mutes
don't work or sounds don't come out. This all happens after I copied
a note (which has some paramter locks of course) and just as I paste
it while in record mode and while the sequence is running.
9. INPUT MACHINES
These could use some work. Sometimes I hear a sound when I think I
shouldn't like with the gated machine. Maybe an updated manual that
explains these machines better like you didwith the MnM. for example.
if I use a kit with an input machine and then switch to one that
doesn't have an input machine, I will still hear the input (usually
the Sidstation using the input gate!).
[FEATURE REQUESTS]
1. DIFFERENT ACCENTS WITH DIFFERENT TRACKS
feature to adjust the accent parameter for each machine separately. I
might want to add accents to the hihats, but not to the bassdrum for
example. It would make the accent feature more powerful and usable.
2. INDICATOR OF PLAYING PATTERN
A blinking led for the pattern wich is playing when pressing bank
select. That way you don't have to fiddle a knob to minimize the mute
screen to look at the tiny pattern number.
3. DIFFERENT STYLE OF PLAYING PATTERNS
Id LOVE to see a way to jump to a new pattern without it being qued
for playing, so you could: Have A01 playing, copy it. Jump to A02
with A01 still playing, paste A01 onto A02. Make some changes, and
then switch playback to the new pattern in A02. Would be really handy
for live jamming
[NOT POSSIBLE ACCORDING TO DANIEL!]
4. NEW GND-MACHINES
I´d like to suggest the incorporation of new GND machines. More
specifically 2 new machines with pulse (with PWM if possible) and saw
waveforms. I guess these wouldn´t take up much memory since these
waveforms are already used as LFO modulators and they would increase
the sound possibilities of the MD a lot. Another one would be some
sort of color knob for the noise machine.
5. FINER NOTE LENGHT WITH MIDI MACHINES
I would love a finer setting possible for note length on midi
machines... the current setting is way to coarse for getting what I'd
like to.
6. SOME THINGS TO BE COPIED FROM MONOMACHINE
Monomachine seams to have better EQ and Distortion. Maybe these could
be copied to MD also (especially the distortion, which seems pretty
weka now). Mono have better way of using Midi-cc's. Could be done
this way with Machinedrum also.
"I think best timbres are available when using both SRR and BDR, When
other one is missing it's not working so well. I would love to see
knob like 'Lo-fi' instead of SRR or BDR, which would use both methods
together (and maybe something else too)."
[THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THIS, MAYBE COULD BE DONE
BY SWITCHES IN GLOBAL MENU. ANY IDEA OF VOTING ON THIS (MAYBE NOT,
SINCE NOT EVERY USER IS HERE)? THE ISSUE SEEMS TO BE ON THE
DISTORTION, SRR AND EQ.]
7. TRX-B3 WITH PITCH ENVELOPE SPEED SETTING
TRX-B2 is a very good kick-machine but with one flaw. The speed of
the pitch-envelope cannot be changed! It's is tuned way too slow and
you can hear the 'ziiuuupp' very clearly. Ok, somebody want's it and
some don't, but as I understand the machine is designed for special
type of kick (let's call it the 'oommmpphh' kick) and makes it with
really good hold parameter. I would like to see TRX-B3 with one
distortion-knob taken away and put ramp-speed knob instead. I think
molding the basic sound character (to fit the song) is way more
important and effecting it with distortion or something else.
8. SCREEN FOR MULTIPLE KNOB ADJUSTS!
Imagine this in live-situation: A screen with one SRR, DELAY, AM,
DISTORTION AND FILTER. Every knob in postion 64. Now you tweak the
SRR to 96 and every tracks SRR value is moved +32, instat robo-
electro. You tweak it back and everything is normal again. Try same
thing with delay, instat dub! Now tweak with you both hands, very
nice live-possiability!!! If this could be also controlled from it's
own track with parameter locks!!! Huh, what a machine!! This is
basicly the same thing that Monomachine does with its joystick. Maybe
this could be implemented to MD in a form of a screen, in which you
would enter by pressing [function]+extended (extended tweak!) or
something else! the tweaked values on such a page
shouldn't be absolute, they should be relative. so they should all
start at 0 and then when you tweak SRR to 64, all machines have 64
*added* to their SRR value. this is more useful (I think) because if
a machine is set to 127 SRR and you start to tweak it globally, it
might sound strange (and be left set to the global value when you're
done doing global tweaks).
9. WAY TO CHANGE OTHER TRACKS VOLUME
Press [function] and twist Level button and every other tracks level
is changed. Very handy in situations where you need more volume to
snare, but it's allready in maximum!
10. NEW MACHINES OF COURSE!!
New machines would be nice as always. Anything. (There's been mention
of 909-hihats.) It would be nice to see more EFM machines, they're by
far my favorite. and I think a couple backwards machines (like a
backwards crash and snare) would be very useful. a couple of more
machines that could produce more electro noise for the machinedrum.
11. BLANK PARAMETER LOCKS
it would be SOOOO nice to be able to have parameter locks on any
step, like the Monomachine does. there's so many subtleties that can
be captured this way that cannot be done with note-only parameter
locks and slide. I know the issue with this is conveying which steps
have note trigs and which have parameter locks only, given that the
LED's are one color. but I'm sure there's a way to do it...
12. MORE INFO ON KIT LIST
An important information is missing : at what pattern a kit is
assigned! Now if i want to erase some kit (for exemple when there is
no more free slot) i have to test ALL the pattern to check that I
don't make a big mistake, boring !
It would be nice to press "function" on a kit (in the kit list) to
show a window with the name of all the pattern whitch use this kit.
13. CLEAR KIT ON KIT LIST
Just like Monomachine has (or had?), it's basic function.
14. SAFE KIT SAVE/ERASE
Add this kind of message when erase or save on an existing
kit : "Warning ! This kit is used by another pattern, are you sure
you want to do this ?" (I have messed a lot of pattern because of
that).
15. MORE INFO ON GLOBAL SETTING
Add the possibility to name the slot of the global setting and when
pressing "function" a window show (just show) a list of all the
choice of this setting (more fast to check the global setting i need,
because after 3 month of using i can forget the setting i make)
16. SAVING OUTPUTS
I would like to see some of the things in the global menu saved in
the kit. Especially something like routing outputs. It would be nice
to save it to each kit as a kind of option.
17. MIXER IN MASTER EFFECTS
It would be nice to have just a master mixer menu to get all the
levels changed easily possibly in the master effects menu. Something
similar to the Akai mpc. Have the 16 parts in rows going across. Each
row has the bar for the volume like each machine currently does. Use
the encoder to switch between channels.
18. DYNAMIX NEEDS TO SHOW GAIN REDUCTION IN dB's
Dynamix would be much more easier to use if it would show occurring
gain reduction in dB's somewhere.
19. MASTER EQ SHOULD SHOW FREQUENCYS AND dB's
This could be implemented this way: you start tweaking the knob and
at the same time there popups a little sreen showing where you in
frequencys. You let off button and the little screen goes off. This
would be very nice.
20. LIVE MIDI NOTE RECORD
This would be great. All you'd need would be for the MD to recieve
note information not length. It would make sequencing much easier.
21. CONTROLLER MACHINES!!!
I want a controller machine, that is, a machine that can control
parameters in other machines. I want to be able to assign whatever
parameters from other machines to the knobs of the controller
machine. This way you can choose to create a minimixer, filter
sweeper, whatever. Configure which machines and what parameter to
affect on some pages, let the first one be the actual
tweaking page. This would make both machines even more live friendly.
Very attracting suggestion!!
22. COMMENT ROW IN SONG EDITOR
When doing lots of offset's and stuff or repeating lots of same
pattern in song editor, it can become quite unclear where you are at
the song. Monomachines way to display current bar is ok, but there
could also be something like 32 Comment rows. No need to type here
anything, they could be named like "Comment Row 1" and "Comment Row
2" and so on. The point is that these row don't do anything. MD jumps
over them, but with them you can set for yourself some landmarks,
like "I know the tracks mood changes after Comment Row 5", so it
would be very easy to see where you want to edit your song.
23. LFO TRIG TYPES
It would be cool if MD would also have trig-types like "One"
and "Half", like Monomachine have. Also it would be _really_ usefull
to have lfo-waveform, that starts from parameters current value (like
pitch =23) and goes from there to maximum or minimum, depending how
much depth you dial. I've understood that there isn't that kind of
waveform yet. (it's on Monomachine (ramp and trig-type half).)
24. ABILITY TO SET HOW KNOBS WORK
In global menu: push-to-smooth-change or push-to-large-change. People
could pick what they want. what I would love to see in the MD is a
global setting for the increment value, So you could have it set up
how it is normal +/- 1 regular, +/- 7 pressed for studio work and
set it to +/- 4 regular +/- 12 pressed for live.
25. REVERSE CURRENT TRACK OPTION
With [Function] + Left/right you can `rotate' the current track (in
record mode of course). It would be cool to use [Function] + up/down
arrows to reverse trigs order (turn the track backward, but play of
course would go forward). Good creativity choiche for making
different variations of one pattern. For example turn hihat's other
way around, or snare or something and then continue from the new
freshstarting point.
26. PATTERN TEMPO
each pattern works best at a certain tempo. it would be great if we
could store that ideal tempo with each pattern. Same is true for the
monomachine BTW.
27. MACHINE WISH
The only thing I want to add to the MD is a little machine where you
can set the pitch as notes, just like the midi machine, but using an
internal oscillator. The waveform can be as simple as just a pure
sinwave, if its to much work to implement aliasfree sawtooths etc.
Just so you can experiment with some simple basslines without
pitch/note tables.
28. EXTENDED / CLASSIC AVAILABLE IN SONG MODE
Many times you get wonderfull noises when switching form classic to
extended in the middle of the play, it would be cool if this would be
possible in song mode. This and extensive offset-programming can take
the Md soundgeneration to another level. It also would be cool to
know what makes up the noises when changing from classic to extended
(don't never change it!!! It's perfect!!)
29. LFO STOP WHEN SEQUENCER STOPPED.
When i have a LFO set on a CC of a MIDI track (eg. CC1V), the LFO
keeps running even when the MD is stopped (can see it on my
Sidstation). This should be changed.
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Re: [elektron] [MD FEATURE REQUEST AND BUGS LIST V6]
2004-02-06 by Ravi Ivan Sharma