with my solution you would have to get the same midi interface: edirol um-550 or 880. it can be both controlled by the computer and as a separate hardware midi router. it has actual buttons that you can use to patch or merge midi data and that data does not need to go through the computer at all. furthermore, you never have to plug or unplug cables. basically, if you have this interface you can route everything through it and not through logic. so in your case you could patch the mono and virus through the edirol which is basically your preference now without going through the computer at all. at the same time you can record all the data to logic without sending data back to either machine. you can even merge data within the um-550 that you want to come from logic and data that you want to come from the mono so that they both go to the virus. in logic i usually set up a track for each port which is dedicated to each machine on different midi channels. as a side note, you can also solve your polyphony problem by patching another keyboard through the edirol and recording that data with the mono data into logic and then routing it back to the virus. so the mono just controls one sound in the virus. i don't usually like edirol but i could not find any other midi interface like this one. i like the fact that i can actually hit buttons on the fly to change what is controlling what without having to think about it too much. so would this work or am i still not understanding your problem? john From: Gene Schwartz <implode7@...> Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:04:27 -0800 To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [elektron] Monomachine with computer sequencer But how do you solve the specific issues I was talking about? If you're trying to record a MIDI track on the monomachine, and listen to the the other synth at the same time? From: john parker <jenghizkhan@...> Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:19:26 -0500 To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [elektron] Monomachine with computer sequencer this probably is no help but...i have the mono, virus, evolver, and machinedrum connected to an edirol um-550. my set up seemed really simple: logic reads each machine as a different port and i can patch everything manually on the edirol as i need it. From: Gene Schwartz <implode7@...> Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:01:11 -0800 To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [elektron] Monomachine with computer sequencer I posted about some of the issues that I was having, and thanks to Joe, I solved one of them, but there are still issues. They don't really seem to be related to the Monomachine per se, but to any instrument that is being used to sequence one or more other synths through a computer sequencer and multiport MIDI interface environment. I'm wondering if anyone else has used the monomachine in a computer sequencer environment, and how they've dealt with this. Suppose you're using the monomachine to sequence the Virus C. If you have all your synths set up through a multiport MIDI interface and the computer, the signal flow would be that the monomachine would send out the MIDI information to the computer sequencer (in this case Logic), which would then send it out to the Virus. The problem is in recording the data from a keyboard controller. The keyboard sends the note values to Logic, which then sends to the autochannel on the monomachine, and records the notes. But in order to hear the Virus, it has to receive the MIDI data also. The problem is that the monomachine echoes the note values back to Logic, which sends them back out to the monomachine, and I get a MIDI feedback loop. The only solution I've found is to connect the Virus directly to the Monomachine (which is not to say that no solution exists. Logic is quite flexible, but I just haven't found a solution to this yet, at least one that is satisfactory.) I still think that if there were a quick way to toggle MIDI transmission on/off from the Monomachine (ideally per track) this would be ideal. If I could do that, then I could simply send the note information to both the monomachine and the virus when recording (so I could hear what I'm playing), and then turn the MIDI transmission on afterwards. Of course, there are still issues - I'd have to set up an instrument in logic which would send, e.g. channel 11 from the monomachine to the Virus, channel 12 to the evolver, etc, but I don't think that those are insurmountable. I don't mind, for now, connecting the Virus directly to the monomachine, and then the evolvers, and throwing in the machinedrum when it arrives. But, especially when I update this ancient computer, I will be also using it as a central controller (as much as I like the monomachine...) and I don't want to be always plugging and unplugging stuff. So, basically, right now, I'm not sure of the best, most flexible way to set all this stuff up. Any creative ideas would be appreciated. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elektron-users/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: elektron-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:elektron-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! 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Re: [elektron] Monomachine with computer sequencer
2004-02-21 by john parker