Elektron Musical Instruments

> 
> From: Joe <jmelnyk@...>
> Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:42:26 -0500
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Monomachine with computer sequencer
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 01:24:09PM -0800, Gene Schwartz wrote:
>> The  transmission of its own data isn't the problem. So this would not
>> be the
>> solution.
> 
> so what is the problem then? which channel(s) is(are) causing the MIDI
> feedback?
> 

Objective - record MIDI onto the monomachine, say on midi track one, and
here the destination synth (say the Virus) simultaneously. Play notes from
Keyboard controller.

Choose output instrument monomachine channel 9 (the autochannel) in logic,
and also the virus, channel 11 which is the channel that the monomachine is
set to send out on MIDI track 1.

Start recording. Notes are sent into Logic from the keyboard (should I
mention that I am not using the keyboard version of the monomachine), and
then rechannelized to channel 9 in Logic and sent out to the monomachine.
The monomachine echoes these notes on channel 11, and they come back into
Logic, and then back out, rechannelized to channel 9 to the monomachine. So,
the seemingly easy task is to block these notes before they get sent back to
the monomachine. Yes, it seems like it should be easy. So far, I have not
been successful.


>> I was not talking about MIDI thru specifically - but most synthesizers
>> (at
>> least  modern  ones)  have  a  setting that allow you to suppress midi
>> output.
> 
> the THRU port isn't MIDI output, it's simply an echo of the IN port. and
> the MnM's MIDI output can be surpressed as I've mentioned.
> 

Yes, I understand the difference between MIDI thru and MIDI out. The
monomachine is sending these notes THROUGH the out port. They are not being
generated by the monomachine - unles you want to say that they are being
generated as they are being recorded. I don't see that your methodology
would suppress this from happening.

>> most synths won't automatically send midi thru
> 
> 99% of all synths I've used (with a thru port) do.
> 

Well, I'm not using the MIDI thru. I never at any point suggested that I was
using the MIDI thru.

>> - I believe that the
>> monomachine  does  here  because  the  assumption  is  that  if you're
>> recording
>> MIDI  data  on it from an external controller, you would want the data
>> echoed
>> to  the  synth  that  you're playing.
> 
> that of course assumes that the device to be controlled has two MIDI IN
> ports - one to connect to the MnM's OUT port and one to connect to the
> MnM's THRU port. and most synths out there don't have two IN ports.

I don't follow your logic at all. I never said that I was using the thru
port.

> 
> again, the THRU is just an echo of the IN port.
> 
>> I
>> will
>> continue to find a way of getting this to work, however.
> 
> No offense, but I seriously think you're making this way more difficult
> than it actually is.  Or maybe it's just the explanations that are lacking
> and I don't accurately understand the problem.
> 

No offense, but I think you need to read what I've been saying more
carefully.

> Joe
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