Elektron Musical Instruments

? perhaps my response sounded harsher than was intended. I was just 
trying to point out that a request for an ease of use feature isn't 
addressed by suggesting that the goal can be achieved by a method 
that is awkward or time consuming.

I certainly don't feel personally attacked, and my dispute with Joe 
was resolved off line.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "scutopus" <scutopus@y...> 
wrote:
> i was a little dismayed when you and joe (who has been nothing but 
a 
> help and a sweetheart to others in this list) got in a tiff on this 
> list, but i didn't say anything because i thought it was a one-time 
> thing. now you go after ....sticman and i can't keep quiet. 
> what ....sticman was doing was stating an opinion that he himself 
> didn't need, just as those who were calling for the feature were 
> doing. no flaming, just an opinion. and you come back saying he was 
> minimizing their thoughts! 
> okay, an example:: i for one think Ravi is somewhat harsh in his 
> statements, but they are his opinions and he isn't hurting anyone 
in 
> stating them. i respect his ideas because they bring IDEAS to the 
> discussion. it seems like you feel personally attacked by people 
> stating their opinions when you don't agree with them, and i 
> apologize if you feel that way. but don't trumpet your opinion as 
> some oppressed minority. all of us who read this have been very 
> considerate of others' thoughts and ideas about these marvelous 
> machines and we go back to our gear and think if we ourselves as 
> individuals require the proposed feature. then we respond on the 
> list. frankly, i've enjoyed this list quite a bit until now. 
doesn't 
> mean i'll stop reading, though, so i'll see y'all on the flipside.
> PEACE,
> wendell.
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Gene Schwartz 
<implode7@p...> 
> wrote:
> > I wrote about the 28 step pattern...
> > 
> > I think that you don't quite understand the spirit behind these 
> requests.
> > The people who have made them all like the Monomachine very much 
> (as far as
> > I can tell). However, there are still ways in which the user 
> interface can
> > be improved in orde to aid creativity. Some improvements are not 
> feasible
> > technically,  some might be contrary to the wishes of the 
majority 
> of users,
> > and some might be specific to such a small minority that it isn't 
> worth the
> > time and effort. In some of these cases, their is some workaround 
> in which
> > the user could accomplish the desired goal, but because of the 
fact 
> that the
> > workaround requires a different way of working altogether, it 
> doesn't really
> > satisfy the goals of person who made the request.
> > 
> > In my case, I wanted to see the 14 step (or other length) step 
> scales while
> > I was recording in pattern mode. One doesn't work the same way in 
> song mode.
> > Therefore your solution (which I was certainly aware of) doesn't 
> really
> > address my request at all. The improvement I requested would 
> certainly help
> > me, though I would understand if no one else desired this change, 
or
> > Elektron thought that it would not be easy enough or impossible to
> > accomplish.
> > 
> > But before you minimize the requests of other users for 
> improvements which
> > would really help them, think about the fact that it is not just 
the
> > eventual technical accomplishment, but the creative process that 
> they might
> > be thinking about.