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Re: [elektron] Processing tips for MD beats

2004-08-22 by Mati

Toni,

I can tell you that it is all about compression. Those people on the 
KVR-VST forums are right. It is not about lack of skills - this is how 
you get huge sounding kick and snare sounds, and pull your drums up in 
a mix. I would suggest going out an investing in an engineering book to 
understand some basics of classic recording technique. It may sound 
corny - but I have seen multi-platinum record producers with these 
books inhand.

/m

On Aug 22, 2004, at 5:04 AM, tahvenaine2002 wrote:

> Hi,
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> I like my MD a lot, but I also find that do a lot of tweaking after
> I've recorded the MD patterns to get it sound better (and yes, I've
> tried to re-record a lot). What I mean is for example snare; I find my
> self always looking for the great thick snare sound and usually I just
> can't get it. So I'm looking for some post-processing  tips (and tips
> for MD) which I could put to good use. I'm not particulary looking
> tips concersing MD internal machines. I believe people here have some
> good knowledge and it still involves MD, because I want MD to sound
> best possible. Here are some examples:
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> 1. I've found that using individual output (for example C) for kick,
> helps the kick sound. It doesn't have to 'compete' with other
> instruments so much and the compressor won't mess it up (because of
> other instrument sounds). How to get really good thumping kick? I
> believe it has to everything with the bass sound on a same track?
>
> 2. For the thickening of snares I use technique called doubleing. I
> create a small delay (few ms really) and pan the delays a little. This
> makes snare a little more thick and also a stereo. It sounds better
> this way. But not thick enough.
>
> 3. I never use MD master eq or I use it just a little. I've found that
>   MD is allready a very bright one, so ne need to eq it anyway. If I
> use it, I use it just a few ticks (like 6 or 8) on a midrange to help
> snare. Yours method may differ from this?
>
> 4. I never ever managed to use compressor on a snare or a kick.
> Everybody is yelling (especially in forums, like kvr-vst) that
> everything should go through compressor (the compressor-religion to me
> it really is and shows nothing but lack of skills). I don't find it
> very usefull. I mean I know how they work and I can hear different
> attack/release times, but it really is a very minor effect, which
> makes me yawn. Making a good balance with faders counts a lot more
> than compressor. Am I right, how do people use the compressors and to
> be exact: what is it that you are trying to do with the compressors
> (is it anything more than a 'lets rock it!'-attitude?)?
>
>
> Well there are some questions and tips. What I'm after is pro-sounding
> beats that can compete with big names, not just
> 'very-good-for-an-bedroom-musician' stuff. And I'm trying to do it
> with MD. I have a feeling that it would be easier with samples (of
> other people records), but I'm not ready give up. I want to build up a
> good craftman skills rather than sample other people works.
>
> Toni.
> ps. a little ranting there, but it goes a long way..
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