Elektron Musical Instruments

Compression is a matter of taste.  Yes multi-platinum producers use
it, but you don't need it.  Just like you don't need a harmonizer with
a good singer.  You can say it's "punchy" or "warm" but these are only
buzz words used since the early 90s when compressors became popular.  

When someone like lou reed says he doesn't like compression I believe
him.  Besides you lose some of the stereo specrtum.

I have to agree with the book idea.  But there are also many online
sources for this stuff.  It's a matter of taste and what you like. 
It's a subjective argument either way.  Just as the ear is subjective
as the eyes.


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Mati <zurich.enteract@r...> wrote:
> Toni,
> 
> I can tell you that it is all about compression. Those people on the 
> KVR-VST forums are right. It is not about lack of skills - this is how 
> you get huge sounding kick and snare sounds, and pull your drums up in 
> a mix. I would suggest going out an investing in an engineering book to 
> understand some basics of classic recording technique. It may sound 
> corny - but I have seen multi-platinum record producers with these 
> books inhand.
> 
> /m
> 
> On Aug 22, 2004, at 5:04 AM, tahvenaine2002 wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I like my MD a lot, but I also find that do a lot of tweaking after
> > I've recorded the MD patterns to get it sound better (and yes, I've
> > tried to re-record a lot). What I mean is for example snare; I find my
> > self always looking for the great thick snare sound and usually I just
> > can't get it. So I'm looking for some post-processing  tips (and tips
> > for MD) which I could put to good use. I'm not particulary looking
> > tips concersing MD internal machines. I believe people here have some
> > good knowledge and it still involves MD, because I want MD to sound
> > best possible. Here are some examples:
> >
> > 1. I've found that using individual output (for example C) for kick,
> > helps the kick sound. It doesn't have to 'compete' with other
> > instruments so much and the compressor won't mess it up (because of
> > other instrument sounds). How to get really good thumping kick? I
> > believe it has to everything with the bass sound on a same track?
> >
> > 2. For the thickening of snares I use technique called doubleing. I
> > create a small delay (few ms really) and pan the delays a little. This
> > makes snare a little more thick and also a stereo. It sounds better
> > this way. But not thick enough.
> >
> > 3. I never use MD master eq or I use it just a little. I've found that
> >   MD is allready a very bright one, so ne need to eq it anyway. If I
> > use it, I use it just a few ticks (like 6 or 8) on a midrange to help
> > snare. Yours method may differ from this?
> >
> > 4. I never ever managed to use compressor on a snare or a kick.
> > Everybody is yelling (especially in forums, like kvr-vst) that
> > everything should go through compressor (the compressor-religion to me
> > it really is and shows nothing but lack of skills). I don't find it
> > very usefull. I mean I know how they work and I can hear different
> > attack/release times, but it really is a very minor effect, which
> > makes me yawn. Making a good balance with faders counts a lot more
> > than compressor. Am I right, how do people use the compressors and to
> > be exact: what is it that you are trying to do with the compressors
> > (is it anything more than a 'lets rock it!'-attitude?)?
> >
> >
> > Well there are some questions and tips. What I'm after is pro-sounding
> > beats that can compete with big names, not just
> > 'very-good-for-an-bedroom-musician' stuff. And I'm trying to do it
> > with MD. I have a feeling that it would be easier with samples (of
> > other people records), but I'm not ready give up. I want to build up a
> > good craftman skills rather than sample other people works.
> >
> > Toni.
> > ps. a little ranting there, but it goes a long way..
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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