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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-23 by Lo-Fi Massahkah

Christopher and Charles - Thanks!

After some tweaking I realized that Live can recieve clock from the MD and pass it on to the G2. No MIDI thru or re-wiring needed!

Cheers,
Mikael



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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-24 by Lo-Fi Massahkah

Hi again...

After playing around with the MD and G2 (through Live) tonight - I realize that this solution doesn't click at all... Even though I have adjusted the delay compensation in Live - they don't sync at all.

So I looked at M-Audio's midi merger. Does anyone have any experiences? I was thinking MD and Live merged->G2 using the MD clock and the Live sequencer. What do you think?

Cheers,
Mikael
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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-24 by Christopher Mitchell

I think that's getting really complicated really quickly and working 
more on getting the basic units synching would be a better immediate 
plan.  What kind of audio card are you using? midi interface?
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On Feb 23, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:

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> Hi again...
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> After playing around with the MD and G2 (through Live) tonight - I 
> realize that this solution doesn't click at all... Even though I have 
> adjusted the delay compensation in Live - they don't sync at all.
>
> So I looked at M-Audio's midi merger. Does anyone have any 
> experiences? I was thinking MD and Live merged->G2 using the MD clock 
> and the Live sequencer. What do you think?
>
> Cheers,
> Mikael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lo-Fi Massahkah" <music@...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!
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>> Christopher and Charles - Thanks!
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>> Cheers,
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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-24 by Lo-Fi Massahkah

I'm using the STAudio (ESI drivers) for sound and Midisport 4x4 for midi.
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> I think that's getting really complicated really quickly and working 
> more on getting the basic units synching would be a better immediate 
> plan.  What kind of audio card are you using? midi interface?
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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-24 by Scott Kellogg

What is your overall system latency?  If you have higher than, say 5ms 
of latency, I think you'll notice the delay.

/Scott

Christopher Mitchell wrote:
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>I think that's getting really complicated really quickly and working 
>more on getting the basic units synching would be a better immediate 
>plan.  What kind of audio card are you using? midi interface?
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>On Feb 23, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:
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>>Hi again...
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>>After playing around with the MD and G2 (through Live) tonight - I 
>>realize that this solution doesn't click at all... Even though I have 
>>adjusted the delay compensation in Live - they don't sync at all.
>>
>>So I looked at M-Audio's midi merger. Does anyone have any 
>>experiences? I was thinking MD and Live merged->G2 using the MD clock 
>>and the Live sequencer. What do you think?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Mikael
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>>To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!
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>>>Christopher and Charles - Thanks!
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>>>After some tweaking I realized that Live can recieve clock from the 
>>>MD and pass it on to the G2. No MIDI thru or re-wiring needed!
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>>>Cheers,
>>>Mikael
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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-24 by Lo-Fi Massahkah

I found a latency of about 20ms when syncing to the MD clock. Sure - I notice it, but I compensated for it in the Live options. But when I played around with it, it all seemed unstable. So that's my main concern.

This is when trying to sync the MD and G2 via Live. (MD->Live->G2)

/Mikael
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> What is your overall system latency?  If you have higher than, say 5ms 
> of latency, I think you'll notice the delay.
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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-24 by Christopher Mitchell

I would try MD->G2-> Live and not introduce any possible extra latency 
from the software.  that way you know that if the MD and G2 are in 
sync, the only part you need to tune up is Live.

Or alternately run Live->MD->G2, and tune the audio latency on Live to 
match what gets played in midi.  I'm not familiar with the ESI cards / 
drivers so I don't know what kind of performance to expect from that.
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On Feb 24, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:

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> I found a latency of about 20ms when syncing to the MD clock. Sure - I 
> notice it, but I compensated for it in the Live options. But when I 
> played around with it, it all seemed unstable. So that's my main 
> concern.
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> This is when trying to sync the MD and G2 via Live. (MD->Live->G2)
>
> /Mikael
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> From: "Scott Kellogg" <glaive@...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!
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>> of latency, I think you'll notice the delay.
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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-24 by innerclock2004

I hate to say it - but don't you just love computers? I say 
ditch 'em. Say goodbye to USB and latency forever and just go with 
the hardware. 


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Lo-Fi Massahkah" <music@l...> 
wrote:
> I found a latency of about 20ms when syncing to the MD clock. Sure -
 I notice it, but I compensated for it in the Live options. But when 
I played around with it, it all seemed unstable. So that's my main 
concern.
> 
> This is when trying to sync the MD and G2 via Live. (MD->Live->G2)
> 
> /Mikael
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Kellogg" <glaive@g...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!
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> > What is your overall system latency?  If you have higher than, 
say 5ms 
> > of latency, I think you'll notice the delay.
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> > /Scott
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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-25 by Lo-Fi Massahkah

Christopher wrote:
>I would try MD->G2-> Live and not introduce any possible extra latency 
>from the software.  that way you know that if the MD and G2 are in 
>sync, the only part you need to tune up is Live.

I'll try my different options. Thank for your help.

Innerclock2004 wrote:
> I hate to say it - but don't you just love computers? I say 
> ditch 'em. Say goodbye to USB and latency forever and just go with 
> the hardware. 

I do love computers - and I'm afraid I couldn't do without mine. But for a minimal setup. Sure I could go with the MD and G2, only! But, for now, I want Live to be part of my setup!

Cheers,
Mikael



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Re: [elektron] I wanna get in sync!

2005-02-25 by drew_alley

> I hate to say it - but don't you just love computers? I say 
> ditch 'em. Say goodbye to USB and latency forever and just go with 
> the hardware. 

Sort of OT, but I'm starting to agree.  The more I try to incorporate 
my computer into my setup, the more frustrated I seem to get . . .  
anyhow, I'll cut short before I start ranting ;)

ao.

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