Elektron Musical Instruments

Just received the news via Elektron friend.  What's going on here?  
It's cool cause I don't have one but wonder if existing users are a 
little peeved.

> Just received the news via Elektron friend.  What's going on here?
> It's cool cause I don't have one but wonder if existing users are a
> little peeved.
>

why should we be?

They aren't stealing my Sid, and I didn't buy it because it was limited.

Yo, Federico. Why you got to get all Seann Penn about
it?

> They aren't stealing my Sid, and I didn't buy it
> because it was limited.
> 
> 



	
		
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>
> Yo, Federico. Why you got to get all Seann Penn about
> it?

???

sorry, English is not my native language, would you please explain?
Do you mean I've been rude?

I didn't want to be rude, but I've been in a hurry all day long and 
maybe and I'm writing without thinking too much...

100 extra sids isn't that much, they still pretty exclusive.

Olaf

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: monads 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:37 PM
  Subject: [elektron] 100 new Sids!?



  Just received the news via Elektron friend.  What's going on here?  
  It's cool cause I don't have one but wonder if existing users are a 
  little peeved.




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>Just received the news via Elektron friend.  What's going on here?  
>It's cool cause I don't have one but wonder if existing users are a 
>little peeved.
>
I'm only peeved that I don't have the money to buy me a second one.

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--- Federico Ciapi <federico.ciapi@...> wrote:


> Do you mean I've been rude?

I'm just kidding, friend. 
If anybody should get peeved is whoever pays 900 EUR,
whe the first ones cost $500. 
Damn you "supply and demand"!


	
		
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> I'm just kidding, friend.
> If anybody should get peeved is whoever pays 900 EUR,
> whe the first ones cost $500.
> Damn you "supply and demand"!
>

that's good, I can still ask more than 700$ for mine.

BTW, what does "to get all Seann Penn" means ?

>
>
> BTW, what does "to get all Seann Penn" means ?

There is an infamous incident where Sean Penn, the actor, punched a 
photographer in the face for being a bother.

/Scott

Very true.  But it was marketed as limited, no doubt some people 
purchased it also because of this.  Plus given the fact of what used 
ones go for on eBay these days.  Practically new prices.  I don't 
care cause I don't have one, yet.

But I'd be pissed if I just won one off eBay only to relize a new 
batch was being released.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Federico Ciapi 
<federico.ciapi@t...> wrote:
>
> why should we be?
> 
> They aren't stealing my Sid, and I didn't buy it because it was 
limited.

i wouldn't pay double the price for what they first
came out as selling the sidstation for. 


	
		
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How can I get one? I do not see them listed off the main site.

-M


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Automatic Panic
<thesoundzoneinfo@y...> wrote:

> 
> i wouldn't pay double the price for what they first
> came out as selling the sidstation for. 
> 
> 
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> Just received the news via Elektron friend.  What's
> going on here? It's cool cause I don't have one but
> wonder if existing users are a little peeved.

I'm a *little* peeved because I was gearing up to sell
mine, and now I have to wait until after March 10 so
my asking price won't be so close to the friend price
for the initial 25...

after that though, I should still be able to get what
I'm asking as it will still be a lot less than what
Elektron wants for a new one :)

disclaimer: I love the Sid, but I'm using my modular
synth almost exclusively these days and the Sid isn't
getting the attention it deserves, so I'd like it to
go to a good home. I'd like to parlay the funds into
some new modules, which is where my musical activity
happens these days...

plus I have some spare 6581s and 8580s, so I may still
subject these to a modularized-Sid experiment in the
future...

meantime, if anyone wants to buy a used Sid, hit me up
after March 10 ;)

cheers,
kevin


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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Automatic Panic
<thesoundzoneinfo@y...> wrote:
> 
> i wouldn't pay double the price for what they first
> came out as selling the sidstation for. 

...you need to take in account that we include much more in the price
today. For example for a US order you now get:

* UPS Express shipping
* Power supply (switching light one)
* Import taxes payed

This, plus that the dollar is just worth about 60% of what it once was
counted in Swedish currency SEK. Plus that the production of these
units were much more expensive as well, as it is a one off production
with several components hard to track down.

All together, I think the people who think we are overpricing the SID
today would be quite surprised to see our margin compared to what is
usual to other synths. We could never sell the SidStation in stores
today at reasonable prices!

But we love doing them, we love the sound and want to spread it. When
we found the 100 new chips we just couldn't ignore them, knowing there
could be 100 more SidStations. And of course we do have a margin, and
selling them do help us getting other new stuff out on the market.

But if you think one gets in the music machine business these days to
get rich you're wrong. This is a tough small world, and I don't think
there are many other who expanded the last few years (not taking in
account computer accessory makers such as M-Audio). Making a new synth
for us is like making a new computer, including a new OS (at least
parts), new set of applications, new hardware (very highly specified),
new marketing, new users manual, press releases, photo sessions, trade
fairs, keeping the servers running plus updating existing users and
products. You can find much more efficient ways to making money.

But we're here because we love to see our music making babies
multiply, and listen to the great amount of amazing music in brilliant
musicians hands! And also the feeling that maybe one or a few of our
stuff will be appreciated and used for a long time.

Daniel (Elektron)

Well now that you've put it that way, I can understand
the rate increase. Don't get me wrong, I do love all
of your products and own both the MD and the MnM, so I
give you guys a lot of props for making what I call
the best electro gear that there is on the market and
that's a big compliment considering that there is so
many good synths out there today. Sorry if I made it
sound like the Sidmachine is not worth the price. 


ELEKTRON KICKS ASS! 

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--- daniel_elektron <daniel@...> wrote:

> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Automatic
> Panic
> <thesoundzoneinfo@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > i wouldn't pay double the price for what they
> first
> > came out as selling the sidstation for. 
> 
> ...you need to take in account that we include much
> more in the price
> today. For example for a US order you now get:
> 
> * UPS Express shipping
> * Power supply (switching light one)
> * Import taxes payed
> 
> This, plus that the dollar is just worth about 60%
> of what it once was
> counted in Swedish currency SEK. Plus that the
> production of these
> units were much more expensive as well, as it is a
> one off production
> with several components hard to track down.
> 
> All together, I think the people who think we are
> overpricing the SID
> today would be quite surprised to see our margin
> compared to what is
> usual to other synths. We could never sell the
> SidStation in stores
> today at reasonable prices!
> 
> But we love doing them, we love the sound and want
> to spread it. When
> we found the 100 new chips we just couldn't ignore
> them, knowing there
> could be 100 more SidStations. And of course we do
> have a margin, and
> selling them do help us getting other new stuff out
> on the market.
> 
> But if you think one gets in the music machine
> business these days to
> get rich you're wrong. This is a tough small world,
> and I don't think
> there are many other who expanded the last few years
> (not taking in
> account computer accessory makers such as M-Audio).
> Making a new synth
> for us is like making a new computer, including a
> new OS (at least
> parts), new set of applications, new hardware (very
> highly specified),
> new marketing, new users manual, press releases,
> photo sessions, trade
> fairs, keeping the servers running plus updating
> existing users and
> products. You can find much more efficient ways to
> making money.
> 
> But we're here because we love to see our music
> making babies
> multiply, and listen to the great amount of amazing
> music in brilliant
> musicians hands! And also the feeling that maybe one
> or a few of our
> stuff will be appreciated and used for a long time.
> 
> Daniel (Elektron)
> 
> 
> 
> 



	
		
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Automatic Panic
<thesoundzoneinfo@y...> wrote:
> Sorry if I made it
> sound like the Sidmachine is not worth the price. 

No pun taken! :) Just wanted to clarify that the price we ask now is
not out of greed, there are many reasons for it being at the level it
is as I explained, and it's up to everyone to justify if it's worth it
or not!

> ELEKTRON KICKS ASS! 

Thanks alot! We try do the best we can! :) It seems at least some
people are happy with what we do, but we'd fool ourselves if we
thought we could please everyone. Generally, Elektron is not about
"bang for the buck", but refined instruments for the musician that
know exactly what he/she wants...

Daniel