Elektron Musical Instruments

My Machinedrum arrived Friday and I'm having great fun with it. (It's 
got one knob that's a little sticky in one spot, but I'm hoping that's 
something that will clear up with a little use.)

Is there  a way to duplicate a pattern while the machine is playing? 
Yes, I can copy, switch patterns, and paste, but that potentially plays 
the second pattern very briefly. What I want to do is duplicate the 
pattern so that I can tweak on it and then jump back to the original 
pattern without any apparent breaks in the music.

Thanks.
Mark

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On Apr 3, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

>  Is there  a way to duplicate a pattern while the machine is playing?
>  Yes, I can copy, switch patterns, and paste, but that potentially 
> plays
>  the second pattern very briefly. What I want to do is duplicate the
>  pattern so that I can tweak on it and then jump back to the original
>  pattern without any apparent breaks in the music.

mark,
glad to hear that you're getting along well with your MD.  I'm sure 
you'll
grow to love it even more in time, as pretty much everyone else who's
ever touched one has :-)

unfortunately, you can't copy/paste patterns to a new destination 
without
first changing to that destination.  that would be a great feature, 
though.


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Its so irking to have the pause! For the cash that I spent on it I
would expect it.


-Micah


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:

> On Apr 3, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
> 
> >  Is there  a way to duplicate a pattern while the machine is playing?
> >  Yes, I can copy, switch patterns, and paste, but that potentially 
> > plays
> >  the second pattern very briefly. What I want to do is duplicate the
> >  pattern so that I can tweak on it and then jump back to the original
> >  pattern without any apparent breaks in the music.
> 
> mark,
> glad to hear that you're getting along well with your MD.  I'm sure 
> you'll
> grow to love it even more in time, as pretty much everyone else who's
> ever touched one has :-)
> 
> unfortunately, you can't copy/paste patterns to a new destination 
> without
> first changing to that destination.  that would be a great feature, 
> though.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

would be nice to be able to copy and paste track per
track too. like if i want my bass line on machine 1 to
copy only that would be cool


--- finite_sf <finite_sf@...> wrote:

> 
> Its so irking to have the pause! For the cash that I
> spent on it I
> would expect it.
> 
> 
> -Micah
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk
> <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
> > 
> > >  Is there  a way to duplicate a pattern while
> the machine is playing?
> > >  Yes, I can copy, switch patterns, and paste,
> but that potentially 
> > > plays
> > >  the second pattern very briefly. What I want to
> do is duplicate the
> > >  pattern so that I can tweak on it and then jump
> back to the original
> > >  pattern without any apparent breaks in the
> music.
> > 
> > mark,
> > glad to hear that you're getting along well with
> your MD.  I'm sure 
> > you'll
> > grow to love it even more in time, as pretty much
> everyone else who's
> > ever touched one has :-)
> > 
> > unfortunately, you can't copy/paste patterns to a
> new destination 
> > without
> > first changing to that destination.  that would be
> a great feature, 
> > though.
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 03:32:50PM -0700, Automatic Panic wrote:
> 
> would be nice to be able to copy and paste track per
> track too. like if i want my bass line on machine 1 to
> copy only that would be cool

it's been awhile since i used the machinedrum, but i
thought this could be done.  iirc, it's something like this:

select the track you wish to copy
enable record mode
press [function] plus [record] to copy - you should get a message
like "copy track".
select the track {and pattern, if necessary} you'd like to paste this onto
press [function] plus [stop] {i think} to paste the track
onto the new destination

...or have i misunderstood you {maybe you mean in this
context of copying and pasting into an inactive pattern}?


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haha my mistake I thought we were tlaking about the
MnM sorry people!

--- niall munnelly <aleph@...> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 03:32:50PM -0700, Automatic
> Panic wrote:
> > 
> > would be nice to be able to copy and paste track
> per
> > track too. like if i want my bass line on machine
> 1 to
> > copy only that would be cool
> 
> it's been awhile since i used the machinedrum, but i
> thought this could be done.  iirc, it's something
> like this:
> 
> select the track you wish to copy
> enable record mode
> press [function] plus [record] to copy - you should
> get a message
> like "copy track".
> select the track {and pattern, if necessary} you'd
> like to paste this onto
> press [function] plus [stop] {i think} to paste the
> track
> onto the new destination
> 
> ...or have i misunderstood you {maybe you mean in
> this
> context of copying and pasting into an inactive
> pattern}?
> 
> 
> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
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On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700, Automatic Panic wrote:
> 
> haha my mistake I thought we were tlaking about the
> MnM sorry people!

i definitely know that you can copy/paste tracks on the
monomachine =)

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[pasting a pattern to another before switching to it]

...and since you have such a clear idea what you expect from your
instrument after spending all your money on it, maybe you have a
clear idea how it would be implemented in a intuitive way into the
Machinedrum interface?

It's sometimes very interesting to read how some users find specific
features obvious and essential.

Daniel

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "finite_sf" <finite_sf@y...> wrote:

> 
> Its so irking to have the pause! For the cash that I spent on it I
> would expect it.
> 
> -Micah

My wish for this was inspired by my use of the Next Loop copy function 
on the Echoplex Digital Pro.

I respect your call for me to think about user interface since a 
feature without a viable user interface isn't a feature.

So, how about:

	Hold down bank key.
	Press stop/paste.
	Press key for destination pattern.

A slightly less versatile approach that does the duplication at copy 
time would be:

	Hold down the function key.
	Press record/copy.
	Press the destination pattern for a duplicate.

This would insist on staying within the same bank of patterns and would 
move the duplication to the copy operation.

Either would work for me.

I'm new enough to the Machinedrum that I'm probably missing something 
that these sequences should be allowing, but a quick test didn't seem 
to indicate functionality that would be severely inhibited by such a 
change, In either case, it would be nice at the duplicate step to show 
which patterns already have data. In the first case, this is actually 
already being done since the paste would just be a shortcut on the 
front of pattern selection.

Mark

On Apr 4, 2005, at 4:33 PM, daniel_elektron wrote:

>
> [pasting a pattern to another before switching to it]
>
> ...and since you have such a clear idea what you expect from your
> instrument after spending all your money on it, maybe you have a
> clear idea how it would be implemented in a intuitive way into the
> Machinedrum interface?
>
> It's sometimes very interesting to read how some users find specific
> features obvious and essential.
>
> Daniel

>      On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700, Automatic Panic wrote:
>  i definitely know that you can copy/paste tracks on the
>  monomachine =)

yes it can!  in the Monomachine, one can even copy/paste individual pages
of a track (hold down the page key while pressing copy to copy, then hold
down page while pressing paste)!

I was extremely happy to find this feature.  I like to do my sound 
design with a 1 bar pattern, then stretch the scale to 4 measures.  
This will automatically copy measure 1 across measures 2, 3, and 4.  
Then, I can make a variation on 2, copy it to 4, and change 4 a little. 
  This gives an A B A C pattern across the 4 measures.

/Scott

On Apr 5, 2005, at 6:52 AM, jmelnyk@... wrote:

>
>>      On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700, Automatic Panic wrote:
>>  i definitely know that you can copy/paste tracks on the
>>  monomachine =)
>
> yes it can!  in the Monomachine, one can even copy/paste individual 
> pages
> of a track (hold down the page key while pressing copy to copy, then 
> hold
> down page while pressing paste)!
>
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thanx Joe!!  this machine is packed with suprises!! =)

--- jmelnyk@... wrote:

> >      On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700,
> Automatic Panic wrote:
> >  i definitely know that you can copy/paste tracks
> on the
> >  monomachine =)
> 
> yes it can!  in the Monomachine, one can even
> copy/paste individual pages
> of a track (hold down the page key while pressing
> copy to copy, then hold
> down page while pressing paste)!
> 
> 



		
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On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Automatic Panic wrote:

>
> thanx Joe!!  this machine is packed with suprises!! =)
>
> --- jmelnyk@... wrote:
>
>>>      On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700,
>> Automatic Panic wrote:
>>>  i definitely know that you can copy/paste tracks
>> on the
>>>  monomachine =)
>>
>> yes it can!  in the Monomachine, one can even
>> copy/paste individual pages
>> of a track (hold down the page key while pressing
>> copy to copy, then hold
>> down page while pressing paste)!
>>
>>
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yes yes! and I found a princess when i kissed my MnM 

--- Scott Kellogg <glaive@...> wrote:

> Did you find the little gnome inside?  He gives out
> candy if you talk 
> to him just right ;)
> 
> On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Automatic Panic wrote:
> 
> >
> > thanx Joe!!  this machine is packed with
> suprises!! =)
> >
> > --- jmelnyk@... wrote:
> >
> >>>      On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700,
> >> Automatic Panic wrote:
> >>>  i definitely know that you can copy/paste
> tracks
> >> on the
> >>>  monomachine =)
> >>
> >> yes it can!  in the Monomachine, one can even
> >> copy/paste individual pages
> >> of a track (hold down the page key while pressing
> >> copy to copy, then hold
> >> down page while pressing paste)!
> >>
> >>
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On 4/5/05 2:31 PM, "Scott Kellogg" wrote:

> 
> Did you find the little gnome inside?  He gives out candy if you talk
> to him just right ;)
> 
> On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Automatic Panic wrote:
> 
>> 
>> thanx Joe!!  this machine is packed with suprises!! =)
>> 
>> --- jmelnyk@... wrote:
>> 
>>>>      On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700,
>>> Automatic Panic wrote:
>>>>  i definitely know that you can copy/paste tracks
>>> on the
>>>>  monomachine =)
>>> 
>>> yes it can!  in the Monomachine, one can even
>>> copy/paste individual pages
>>> of a track (hold down the page key while pressing
>>> copy to copy, then hold
>>> down page while pressing paste)!

Niiice!  All those poor MD owners got was Elvis.

On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Automatic Panic wrote:

>
> yes yes! and I found a princess when i kissed my MnM
>
> --- Scott Kellogg <glaive@...> wrote:
>
>> Did you find the little gnome inside?  He gives out
>> candy if you talk
>> to him just right ;)
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Automatic Panic wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> thanx Joe!!  this machine is packed with
>> suprises!! =)
>>>
>>> --- jmelnyk@... wrote:
>>>
>>>>>      On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700,
>>>> Automatic Panic wrote:
>>>>>  i definitely know that you can copy/paste
>> tracks
>>>> on the
>>>>>  monomachine =)
>>>>
>>>> yes it can!  in the Monomachine, one can even
>>>> copy/paste individual pages
>>>> of a track (hold down the page key while pressing
>>>> copy to copy, then hold
>>>> down page while pressing paste)!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Oh, my MD gave me an old fat elvis strippin in Vegas 


--- Scott Kellogg <glaive@...> wrote:

> Niiice!  All those poor MD owners got was Elvis.
> 
> On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Automatic Panic wrote:
> 
> >
> > yes yes! and I found a princess when i kissed my
> MnM
> >
> > --- Scott Kellogg <glaive@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Did you find the little gnome inside?  He gives
> out
> >> candy if you talk
> >> to him just right ;)
> >>
> >> On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Automatic Panic
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> thanx Joe!!  this machine is packed with
> >> suprises!! =)
> >>>
> >>> --- jmelnyk@... wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>      On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:01:44PM -0700,
> >>>> Automatic Panic wrote:
> >>>>>  i definitely know that you can copy/paste
> >> tracks
> >>>> on the
> >>>>>  monomachine =)
> >>>>
> >>>> yes it can!  in the Monomachine, one can even
> >>>> copy/paste individual pages
> >>>> of a track (hold down the page key while
> pressing
> >>>> copy to copy, then hold
> >>>> down page while pressing paste)!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 		
> >>> __________________________________
> >>> Do you Yahoo!?
> >>> Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More
> second
> >> dates.
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